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Re: Trade for Trae Young?
« Reply #30 on: Yesterday at 12:46:21 PM »

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If we were gonna send picks and players to the Hawks for one of their pieces, I'd much rather have Okongwu than Trae.

Trae is the better player, but Okongwu is a way better fit and would be a perfect Celtic. The kicker, though, is that neither is available (nor should they be)

 Hawks don't want to pay Ice Trey the big bucks.  That's why its a possibility.
If the Hawks who know Young best aren't willing to pay him the big bucks, why should the Celtics do so?  Celts can't even afford it with JT, JB and White on the books whereas the Hawks can afford it.


 Because the Hawks don't have Tatum,  Brown,  and White. 

 This trade would put Brown, where he should be as the number 3 option,That can strictly attack and shoot 3's. When he gets the ball tatum and trey young would go back and forth with setting up the offense and it would be absolutely inundstoppable offense

Given salaries I?m not sure I?d take Young straight up over Pritchard.


 Yes you would NG. Please just think for a moment what 11 to 12 assists per game would do for Tatum and Brown.

 All the easy buckets to get those guys started, which is so important for any player. We have never had any elite passer to ignite this offense.

 Please watch a minute of this video to expand your vision of what this team could look like with him.  People are really slandering this kid.  having him as  one of our top three guys would be amazing to watch.

 He would be the Best closer on.the Celtics.  The number one option most of the time. Tatum is not elite at and of games.

 https://youtu.be/TalDKecCABY?si=pnSaQBXdMZ0f9ixO
Young's "11 to 12 assists per game" happen because Trae has the ball all of the time. Are we really going to take the ball out of Tatum's hands? Can Trae play off ball? Trae is not a good fit. I question whether he is even a winning player.
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Re: Trade for Trae Young?
« Reply #31 on: Yesterday at 01:00:27 PM »

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If we were gonna send picks and players to the Hawks for one of their pieces, I'd much rather have Okongwu than Trae.

Trae is the better player, but Okongwu is a way better fit and would be a perfect Celtic. The kicker, though, is that neither is available (nor should they be)

 Hawks don't want to pay Ice Trey the big bucks.  That's why its a possibility.
If the Hawks who know Young best aren't willing to pay him the big bucks, why should the Celtics do so?  Celts can't even afford it with JT, JB and White on the books whereas the Hawks can afford it.


 Because the Hawks don't have Tatum,  Brown,  and White. 

 This trade would put Brown, where he should be as the number 3 option,That can strictly attack and shoot 3's. When he gets the ball tatum and trey young would go back and forth with setting up the offense and it would be absolutely inundstoppable offense

Given salaries I?m not sure I?d take Young straight up over Pritchard.


 Yes you would NG. Please just think for a moment what 11 to 12 assists per game would do for Tatum and Brown.

 All the easy buckets to get those guys started, which is so important for any player. We have never had any elite passer to ignite this offense.

 Please watch a minute of this video to expand your vision of what this team could look like with him.  People are really slandering this kid.  having him as  one of our top three guys would be amazing to watch.

 He would be the Best closer on.the Celtics.  The number one option most of the time. Tatum is not elite at and of games.

 https://youtu.be/TalDKecCABY?si=pnSaQBXdMZ0f9ixO

Hah! You?re probably correct that if the opportunity were real, you?d have to make that trade. But? the difference in value, given salary, is not really that great.  PP can shoot with Trae for sure.  Driving, making own offense, and passing go to Trae, but Payton is solid in those areas.  Rebounding to Payton. Defense to Payton.  Contract to Payton.

Re: Trade for Trae Young?
« Reply #32 on: Yesterday at 01:46:37 PM »

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I am not sure Jaylen or Tatum would benefit much from Trae Young's passing. A few opportunities here or there but also reduced time on the ball taking away some other opportunities.

I think the players Trae would help the most are the role players who cannot create their own offense. Trae was terrific with a rim roller like Clint Capela. He also is great at creating opportunities for spot up shooters. So it is the other guys on the team that I think Trae could help with his playmaking. Not the Jays.

I don't think Trae helps scorers / stars / iso players.

Re: Trade for Trae Young?
« Reply #33 on: Yesterday at 05:05:40 PM »

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One of the early messages in this thread included as a positive the fact that the Celtics would have the luxury to keep Young on the bench in close big games because they still theoretically would have White, Brown and Tatum. This is the exact fact detailing why the Hawks are reluctant to give him a max extension and why I would be so opposed to bringing him to Boston. Under the new realities, it is going to be hard to build a contending team if you are paying $25-30 million to a one way player. This, incidentally, is why I do not see Simons as a long term piece unless he takes a salary around $12 million. It is also I believe why Brooklyn has not reached a deal with Cam Thomas, Chicago has not reached a deal with Josh Giddey and part of why Kuminga has not landed a deal. Paying $45-60 mil a year (and that is what Trae wants) for a player you may have to take off the court in playoff games because he is so deficient at one end is certain to kill your chances at winning a title. This is especially so if you have four players making 120% of the salary cap. It is possible to pay that much to four guys and still compete if you have a couple of nice really cheap deals but those four had better be two way players. That was what was great about the Celtics group of the last two years: the top six guys contributed on both ends. So you almost never had one getting played off the court - Al sometimes because of age but he had been an elite defensive player and so could still draw on that knowledge and experience and stand up on D more often than not. And that is what the Celtics should be looking for. Not a one way offensive star. And Young is absolutely a superstar on offense. It might be possible to build a contending team around him. But it is not this Celtics team if they are planning to keep Tatum, Brown and White.

As said by others the only realistic Trae trade would have to involve Brown. I do not think such a trade would work because both teams likely would (reasonably from their respective perspectives) believe the other team should give up additional assets. Personally, I would not give up Jaylen for Trae straight up, much less if asked to attach a pick. And that is from the perspective of a Celtics fan who likes Jaylen a lot - especially as a person - but  thinks he is pretty significantly overpaid and that the Celtics probably will not win another title with 70% of the cap tied up in him and Tatum. I hope they do but I think the Celtics need to trade Jaylen to build up another contender. I just would not do it for Trae Young.
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Re: Trade for Trae Young?
« Reply #34 on: Yesterday at 08:57:29 PM »

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I am truly shocked that this post has gone on for so long! There is Absolutely NO Way Atlanta is giving up TY for anything less than Jaylan Brown! So, why all the posts about it?? This is a waste of time, Atlanta may not Max him right now, but you are not getting him for our scraps!! Come on man, He is the Hawks Jayson Tatum!!! So what are you all talking about?
I don't care if you love him or hate him, we are not getting him! End of Story, unless you want to give up JB, which would be silly!  He is the Face of the Hawks, just because they didn't Max him out yet does not change that.

Re: Trade for Trae Young?
« Reply #35 on: Yesterday at 10:40:47 PM »

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Young is incredibly talented but he thinks he's a #1 option and has no interest in being the #3 option/table setter for a champion. That's his ideal position, I think. But he'll never accept it.

So I'd rather have Simmons at half the price with better shooting.
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Re: Trade for Trae Young?
« Reply #36 on: Today at 12:19:21 AM »

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Here is my list of trade targets from Atlanta in order of preference until I hit Trae:

Jalen J
Dyson D
Gueye
Risacher
Kennard
Alexander-Walker
Zinger
Krejci
Bufkin
Trae.
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