2025 CBlog Historical Post-Draft Season: Sim & Voting

[Timdawgg]

In 10th Place in the 2025 CelticsBlog Historical Fantasy Draft... still a fearsome and dangerous team, and one that I believe could be a potential top 6 team in the sim...


Timdawgg's Philadelphia 76ers!

In the 2025-26 sim regular season, the Philadelphia 76ers finish 37-27, in 4th place!

Hell yeah! That makes me feel better about my team!

[smokeablount]

In 10th Place in the 2025 CelticsBlog Historical Fantasy Draft... still a fearsome and dangerous team, and one that I believe could be a potential top 6 team in the sim...


Timdawgg's Philadelphia 76ers!

In the 2025-26 sim regular season, the Philadelphia 76ers finish 37-27, in 4th place!

So if I'm understanding correctly, Tim finished 27-27 in the 54 game season, which was the 4th best finish?

Tough league!

Correct. The sim fancied a select few teams, and most teams did not fare well on the road

No one was really that bad all things considered, but over .500 was a select few

[smokeablount]

In 8th Place in the 2025 CelticsBlog Historical Fantasy Draft... the other main contender for best defense and still a potent offensive squad...


Donoghus's Milwaukee Bucks!

In the 2025-26 sim regular season, the Milwaukee Bucks finish 27-37, in a tie for 10th place!

[smokeablount]

In 7th Place in the 2025 CelticsBlog Historical Fantasy Draft... a team loaded with talent that the sim is going to love...


Moranis's Cleveland Cavaliers!

In the 2025-26 sim regular season, the Cleveland Cavaliers finish 40-24, in 3rd place!

[Roy H.]

Some vindication for Mo, and some proof that the sim doesn't love mid-2000s players regarding Dons.  I think D12, Dirk and Roy could keep up with anyone.

[smokeablount]

Some vindication for Mo, and some proof that the sim doesn't love mid-2000s players regarding Dons.  I think D12, Dirk and Roy could keep up with anyone.

The teams with more players earlier in the timeline tended to perform worse. This is likely because of the rapid evolution of efficiency over the years. I believe the average TS in 2012 was around 53% and today it is around 57%. Like I?ve said, in voting I expect people to adapt and think that Ray Allen or KG would be more efficient today like my TMac tangent, they are great players.

But the sim looks at 2016 Curry?s 63% eFG and 86 Jordan?s 50% eFG and it favors Curry as a pure scorer. I?d consider the focus on efficiency realistic but the disrespect of the older players a flaw. And it values pure talent over what voters value a lot more in fit

[Who]

Some vindication for Mo, and some proof that the sim doesn't love mid-2000s players regarding Dons.  I think D12, Dirk and Roy could keep up with anyone.

The teams with more players earlier in the timeline tended to perform worse. This is likely because of the rapid evolution of efficiency over the years. I believe the average TS in 2012 was around 53% and today it is around 57%. Like I?ve said, in voting I expect people to adapt and think that Ray Allen or KG would be more efficient today like my TMac tangent, they are great players.

But the sim looks at 2016 Curry?s 63% eFG and 86 Jordan?s 50% eFG and it favors Curry as a pure scorer. I?d consider the focus on efficiency realistic but the disrespect of the older players a flaw. And it values pure talent over what voters value a lot more in fit

Does the sim just use their TS% / eFG%?

And not their relative TS% / relative eFG%? Relative to league averages of that time?

[smokeablount]

Some vindication for Mo, and some proof that the sim doesn't love mid-2000s players regarding Dons.  I think D12, Dirk and Roy could keep up with anyone.

The teams with more players earlier in the timeline tended to perform worse. This is likely because of the rapid evolution of efficiency over the years. I believe the average TS in 2012 was around 53% and today it is around 57%. Like I?ve said, in voting I expect people to adapt and think that Ray Allen or KG would be more efficient today like my TMac tangent, they are great players.

But the sim looks at 2016 Curry?s 63% eFG and 86 Jordan?s 50% eFG and it favors Curry as a pure scorer. I?d consider the focus on efficiency realistic but the disrespect of the older players a flaw. And it values pure talent over what voters value a lot more in fit

Does the sim just use their TS% / eFG%?

And not their relative TS% / relative eFG%? Relative to league averages of that time?

Correct, they need to adjust it, and they don?t. They also need to tax the players that show up on teams all the time in salary cap leagues because the sim loves them. There are some big men that the sim prolly prefers to Siakam and Bam who would not be considered draftable in our league that you?ll find on tons of teams. And Hali and Curry are everywhere. They need to modernize old efficiency and tax the  players that copycat GMs load up on all the time.

Sim is flawed. But still can be fun and a definitive result. In reality it?s at the very least an outlet for the GMs that felt they got penalized too hard for expected poor fit.

My top 2 teams in my voting were Who and CFF, and lined up very closely with the overall results where they finished top 4, but I expect the sim results to go differently than voting

[smokeablount]

In 6th Place in the 2025 CelticsBlog Historical Fantasy Draft... with the most feared duo in the league and shaping up to be a truly elite, potential finals team in the sim...


Roy Hobbs's Boston Celtics!

In the 2025-26 sim regular season, the Boston Celtics finish 48-16, in 2nd place!

[smokeablount]

In 5th Place in the 2025 CelticsBlog Historical Fantasy Draft... and cementing our first top 5 team in 2025 CelticsBlog Historical Draft voting, the old school terror that made out like a bandit in perhaps the biggest blockbuster trade in CelticsBlog draft history, and had the widest voting variance of any team, with 4 votes in the top 3 and 3 votes in the bottom 3...


Snively's Chicago Bulls!

In the 2025-26 sim regular season, the Chicago Bulls finish 27-37, in a tie for 10th place!

[Celtic Fan Forever]

So we have 4th, 5th, 3rd, 2nd, and 2 tied for 10th?

So one of the top 4 teams for voting was 1st, and the others were 6th 7th and 8th.. wow

[Roy H.]

So we have 4th, 5th, 3rd, 2nd, and 2 tied for 10th?

So one of the top 4 teams for voting was 1st, and the others were 6th 7th and 8th.. wow

Looking at efficiency, I'm guessing SAB is #1.  Great team.

Overall, teams playing in the 90s + 2000s didn't emphasize efficiency.  Guys like Kobe, Carmelo and AI were superstars, but in terms of efficiency theiy were 10% - 15% less efficient than today's players.

I think that both the voting and the sim had some flaws, but I think my 2nd place sim result is way closer to reality than 6th, and Mo's 3rd place ranking is fairer, too.  At t same time, some good teams got hit hard, particularly those that relied on defense, grit and toughness.

[smokeablount]

So we have 4th, 5th, 3rd, 2nd, and 2 tied for 10th?

So one of the top 4 teams for voting was 1st, and the others were 6th 7th and 8th.. wow

Yes, so far the sim is a bizarro world where fit isn?t a major consideration, and efficiency may be the differentiator between a bunch of teams loaded with talent.

It is looking like the sim final 4 after the postseason and the voting final 4 will be largely different, and those teams with voting grievances are experiencing their time to shine now.

Unfortunately I do not know a lot of basketball simulators. I know whatifsports and I know a Princeton analytics professor who has his own, and was not aware of whatifsports, but there aren?t really a lot of options. It?s definitely not perfect, but other than voting I?m not sure what other options we have to extend the draft and fun.

[Roy H.]

So we have 4th, 5th, 3rd, 2nd, and 2 tied for 10th?

So one of the top 4 teams for voting was 1st, and the others were 6th 7th and 8th.. wow

Yes, so far the sim is a bizarro world where fit isn?t a major consideration, and efficiency may be the differentiator between a bunch of teams loaded with talent.

It is looking like the sim final 4 after the postseason and the voting final 4 will be largely different, and those teams with voting grievances are experiencing their time to shine now.

Unfortunately I do not know a lot of basketball simulators. I know whatifsports and I know a Princeton analytics professor who has his own, and was not aware of whatifsports, but there aren?t really a lot of options. It?s definitely not perfect, but other than voting I?m not sure what other options we have to extend the draft and fun.

We just need NBA2K to upload every player in every season even, lol.

[snively]

We're #10!