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Re: 2025 CsBlog Post-Draft: Voting, How?s my Team
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Why my team beats this other team would be a fun exercise... I'm ready to embrace total intellectual dishonesty in defense of my squad.

Toward this end...  I officially throw down my gauntlet.  Any GM can issue me a challenge by writing why your team beats mine, and I'll respond in kind.


Bulls v Celtics
Starters:
PG: Chauncey v Steph
SG: Kobe v. Jrue
SF: Jimmy v Hedo
PF: Al v Giannis
C: Yao v Porzingis

Bench
PG: D-Will v Brunson
SG: Eric Gordon v Dipo
SF: Granger v Amen Thompson
PF: Zion v Brand
C: Pau v DeAndre Jordan

Offensively I concede a spacing advantage to the Celts. Lots of shooting to give Giannis a lot of room to attack either in iso or off 2-man actions. Plus Porzingis poses problems for Yao as a legit stretch big. But I think the Bulls would be capable of stifling even so potent an offense just as the 2009 Lakers muzzled the 4-out + Dwight Magic (holding them to 10 below their season offensive rating). Even with Rashard Lewis raining 3s on the Lakers twin towers, the Lakers dominated by shutting down Howard.

I think the Bulls pose a similar problem for Giannis - who would face one of his most daunting man defenders in Al plus the overwhelming size of Yao in the paint (or Pau off the bench). Further the speed, tenacity and defensive instincts of the Bulls perimeter trio would prey heavily on Giannis' drives and kickouts, turning him over heavily.

Steph of course poses another set of problems but the Bulls are well equipped here too. Use the Cavs strategy of beating him up on both ends which Billups/Kobe/Butler group do exceptionally well (and beefy bench guards D-Will and Gordon can also do). As for the Jrue/Hedo/Porzingis trio, the Bulls are happy to shift the offensive burden to them, trusting that they will not be able to outproduce their counterparts.

Offensively, the Bulls have numerous areas to feast. While Jrue/Giannis can cover a lot of ground, the C's are vulnerable in several areas. Curry has to deal with prime Billups - a physical load for any slight PG - and would suffer very badly in any switch. Hedo is very poorly equipped to handle Jimmy Butler. And both Giannis and Porzingis would struggle mightily with Yao. They can try packing the paint, but the skill level of the big men and the proficiency of the entire team from mid-range means it won't be enough.

Off the bench, the Bulls enjoy a tremendous advantage in firepower. Every single Bulls bench player is a bonafide 20+ppg threat that operates from different parts of the floor. The C's on the other hand struggle with spacing issues with the Amen/Brand/DAJ frontcourt allowing the Bulls to key in their perimeter duo. I trust D-Will to exploit  his own mismatch and get Zion going against Brand as well.

I expect the C's to steal a game or 2 in a playoff series thanks to their shooting prowess but to succumb to the Bulls onslaught of power, physicality, skill and size.


2025 Draft: Chicago Bulls

PG: Chauncey Billups/Deron Williams
SG: Kobe Bryant/Eric Gordon
SF: Jimmy Butler/Danny Granger/Danilo Gallinari
PF: Al Horford/Zion Williamson
C: Yao Ming/Pau Gasol/Tyson Chandler

Re: 2025 CsBlog Post-Draft: Voting, How?s my Team
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Why my team beats this other team would be a fun exercise... I'm ready to embrace total intellectual dishonesty in defense of my squad.

Toward this end...  I officially throw down my gauntlet.  Any GM can issue me a challenge by writing why your team beats mine, and I'll respond in kind.


Bulls v Celtics
Starters:
PG: Chauncey v Steph
SG: Kobe v. Jrue
SF: Jimmy v Hedo
PF: Al v Giannis
C: Yao v Porzingis

Bench
PG: D-Will v Brunson
SG: Eric Gordon v Dipo
SF: Granger v Amen Thompson
PF: Zion v Brand
C: Pau v DeAndre Jordan

Offensively I concede a spacing advantage to the Celts. Lots of shooting to give Giannis a lot of room to attack either in iso or off 2-man actions. Plus Porzingis poses problems for Yao as a legit stretch big. But I think the Bulls would be capable of stifling even so potent an offense just as the 2009 Lakers muzzled the 4-out + Dwight Magic (holding them to 10 below their season offensive rating). Even with Rashard Lewis raining 3s on the Lakers twin towers, the Lakers dominated by shutting down Howard.

I think the Bulls pose a similar problem for Giannis - who would face one of his most daunting man defenders in Al plus the overwhelming size of Yao in the paint (or Pau off the bench). Further the speed, tenacity and defensive instincts of the Bulls perimeter trio would prey heavily on Giannis' drives and kickouts, turning him over heavily.

Steph of course poses another set of problems but the Bulls are well equipped here too. Use the Cavs strategy of beating him up on both ends which Billups/Kobe/Butler group do exceptionally well (and beefy bench guards D-Will and Gordon can also do). As for the Jrue/Hedo/Porzingis trio, the Bulls are happy to shift the offensive burden to them, trusting that they will not be able to outproduce their counterparts.

Offensively, the Bulls have numerous areas to feast. While Jrue/Giannis can cover a lot of ground, the C's are vulnerable in several areas. Curry has to deal with prime Billups - a physical load for any slight PG - and would suffer very badly in any switch. Hedo is very poorly equipped to handle Jimmy Butler. And both Giannis and Porzingis would struggle mightily with Yao. They can try packing the paint, but the skill level of the big men and the proficiency of the entire team from mid-range means it won't be enough.

Off the bench, the Bulls enjoy a tremendous advantage in firepower. Every single Bulls bench player is a bonafide 20+ppg threat that operates from different parts of the floor. The C's on the other hand struggle with spacing issues with the Amen/Brand/DAJ frontcourt allowing the Bulls to key in their perimeter duo. I trust D-Will to exploit  his own mismatch and get Zion going against Brand as well.

I expect the C's to steal a game or 2 in a playoff series thanks to their shooting prowess but to succumb to the Bulls onslaught of power, physicality, skill and size.

Fair play.  Let me see how I can do here, with 11 minutes on the clock before I have to leave work.

I certainly respect power, physicality, skill and size.  It's what my team is built on.  But, two areas the Bulls can't keep up:  spacing.

The Celtics offense isn't a 4-out, 1-in like the 2009 Magic.  That squad made 10.0 3PTs per game.  Steph makes over 5.0 per game on his own, and makes them from 27 feet.

Kobe's eFG% in 2008 was .503.  We all remember the Finals in 2008:  .439 eFG%.  That's just not comparable to the efficiency that my entire roster is putting up.

And, Giannis isn't Dwight.  He can dribble.  He can pass.  He can dunk after taking three dribbles from half-court.

Pacing and spacing is what we do.  And, all five starters have been key pieces on top-3 defenses. 

I've got to run, unfortunately, but more later.  I'd like to get into some of the individual matchups.  One interesting one:  Kobe played Jrue Holiday 10 times in their career.  He only outscored Jrue by 8 points per game, while averaging a worse FG%, 3PT%, and eFG%.  If my 3rd / 4th option is limiting Kobe, it's going to be an uphill battle for Chicago!  (Kobe's career eFG% against Jrue:  .452.  3PT%:  25.4%)
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KP / Giannis / Turkuglu / Jrue / Curry
Sabonis / Brand / A. Thompson / Oladipo / Brunson
Jordan / Bowen

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Re: 2025 CsBlog Post-Draft: Voting, How?s my Team
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I have updated the first 5 rosters into the sim. I just need to assign minutes. Roy, Who, and Tim, I had to tweak some of your minutes so can you just review you're ok with what I edited in your posts, or change it? Curry, AD, Harden, KG, and Embiid are currently at their max minutes.

Is it alright to change KG's season from 2007-08 to 2003-04? That would remove the minutes issue with KG.

I would KG at 35mpg. JJJ at 26mpg. Embiid is at 29mpg due to minutes restriction. Aldridge at 6mpg.

Can't do 03-04, Who.  2005 and after all work though.

Thnak you. I meant 04-05.

Yup, no problem, fixed the roster. Going to get the 9 rosters in by tonight or tomorrow, and then do minutes after
CelticsBlog 2005-25 Fantasy Draft Commish - OKC Thunder:
PG: SGA (24-25, MVP)
SG: Klay Thompson (14-15)
SF: Kevin Durant (13-14, MVP)
PF: Evan Mobley (24-25, DPOY)
C: Rudy Gobert (18-19, DPOY)
B: JKidd, Vince, KAT, Siakam, Bam, Rose (MVP), Danny Green

Re: 2025 CsBlog Post-Draft: Voting, How?s my Team
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Updated my info for seasons and minutes.  Still need to get a write up going.


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Re: 2025 CsBlog Post-Draft: Voting, How?s my Team
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Thanks for submitting all the info guys, and thanks for your write up, Donoghus.

All 10 rosters have been added to my 10 sim spots. I just have to set the MPG later.


Salary Cap Info:

SAB - $88M
Timdawgg - $86M
Roy - $84M
Moranis - $83M
RodyTur10 - $83M
Snively - $79M
Donoghus - $78M
CFF - $77M
Who - $74M
Jvalin - $74M

(the more modern/newer players you get, fewer minutes, lower salary cap. Also, the highest $ amount does not mean the best, as that $ gets spent on different attributes and only a portion of that $70-80M in salary cap will actually play real minutes in games. But here it is anyway)

Voting will open this Friday AM at 8am ET. You can PM me your list of 9 ranked teams in order (all teams except your own) and when we get all 10 GMs to weigh in, plus anyone else on CelticsBlog who wants to vote on the rosters, I will tabulate results and announce a winner.

Please kick off discussion, commentary, first take level debates, etc until the voting period!

After Voting is announced (or if it's stalled and we're waiting awhile), I will kick off the sim regular season, which will take place over a couple of day and be quicker than the playoffs.
CelticsBlog 2005-25 Fantasy Draft Commish - OKC Thunder:
PG: SGA (24-25, MVP)
SG: Klay Thompson (14-15)
SF: Kevin Durant (13-14, MVP)
PF: Evan Mobley (24-25, DPOY)
C: Rudy Gobert (18-19, DPOY)
B: JKidd, Vince, KAT, Siakam, Bam, Rose (MVP), Danny Green

Re: 2025 CsBlog Post-Draft: Voting, How?s my Team
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Since everyone posted MPG transparently, I will post my standard sim MPG here:

SGA 32 / Kidd 8 / Rose 8
Klay 30 / Danny Green 8 / Kidd 10
KD 38 / Mobley 5 / Pascal 5
Mobley 22 / KAT 16 / Bam 10
Rudy 32 / KAT 16

I have Vince DNP due to a combo of low efficiency and average defense (subpar for my team where only KAT and Vince score below a 70 in defense for their given season and nearly all are 75+).

OKC Sim Defense Player Ratings:

SGA 88 / Kidd 82 / Rose 76
Klay 84 / Green 88
KD 78 / Siakam 70 / Vince 50
Mobley 100 / Bam 80
Rudy 100 / KAT 45


But in real life games and for voting, he would mix in at SF and backup Durant when you need a high usage replacement and not a freakish long replacement in Siakam, and you could play Vince at 3, Durant at the 4 as Who suggested, SGA and Klay, and bench Rudy or Mobley. And in real life KAT would play a lot less, and Bam and SIakam would play more, but the sim loves KAT
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CelticsBlog 2005-25 Fantasy Draft Commish - OKC Thunder:
PG: SGA (24-25, MVP)
SG: Klay Thompson (14-15)
SF: Kevin Durant (13-14, MVP)
PF: Evan Mobley (24-25, DPOY)
C: Rudy Gobert (18-19, DPOY)
B: JKidd, Vince, KAT, Siakam, Bam, Rose (MVP), Danny Green

Re: 2025 CsBlog Post-Draft: Voting, How?s my Team
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I feel like maybe we are losing momentum.

Do we want to open up voting tomorrow at 8am, a day early?

I have started the process of skimming the regular season and can post updates as soon as voting is closed. I do one team at a time, 3 home and 3 away vs all teams.

It looks like all our write ups are essentially in so there?s nothing stopping the voting.
CelticsBlog 2005-25 Fantasy Draft Commish - OKC Thunder:
PG: SGA (24-25, MVP)
SG: Klay Thompson (14-15)
SF: Kevin Durant (13-14, MVP)
PF: Evan Mobley (24-25, DPOY)
C: Rudy Gobert (18-19, DPOY)
B: JKidd, Vince, KAT, Siakam, Bam, Rose (MVP), Danny Green

Re: 2025 CsBlog Post-Draft: Voting, How?s my Team
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Why my team beats this other team would be a fun exercise... I'm ready to embrace total intellectual dishonesty in defense of my squad.

Toward this end...  I officially throw down my gauntlet.  Any GM can issue me a challenge by writing why your team beats mine, and I'll respond in kind.


Bulls v Celtics
Starters:
PG: Chauncey v Steph
SG: Kobe v. Jrue
SF: Jimmy v Hedo
PF: Al v Giannis
C: Yao v Porzingis

Bench
PG: D-Will v Brunson
SG: Eric Gordon v Dipo
SF: Granger v Amen Thompson
PF: Zion v Brand
C: Pau v DeAndre Jordan

Offensively I concede a spacing advantage to the Celts. Lots of shooting to give Giannis a lot of room to attack either in iso or off 2-man actions. Plus Porzingis poses problems for Yao as a legit stretch big. But I think the Bulls would be capable of stifling even so potent an offense just as the 2009 Lakers muzzled the 4-out + Dwight Magic (holding them to 10 below their season offensive rating). Even with Rashard Lewis raining 3s on the Lakers twin towers, the Lakers dominated by shutting down Howard.

I think the Bulls pose a similar problem for Giannis - who would face one of his most daunting man defenders in Al plus the overwhelming size of Yao in the paint (or Pau off the bench). Further the speed, tenacity and defensive instincts of the Bulls perimeter trio would prey heavily on Giannis' drives and kickouts, turning him over heavily.

Steph of course poses another set of problems but the Bulls are well equipped here too. Use the Cavs strategy of beating him up on both ends which Billups/Kobe/Butler group do exceptionally well (and beefy bench guards D-Will and Gordon can also do). As for the Jrue/Hedo/Porzingis trio, the Bulls are happy to shift the offensive burden to them, trusting that they will not be able to outproduce their counterparts.

Offensively, the Bulls have numerous areas to feast. While Jrue/Giannis can cover a lot of ground, the C's are vulnerable in several areas. Curry has to deal with prime Billups - a physical load for any slight PG - and would suffer very badly in any switch. Hedo is very poorly equipped to handle Jimmy Butler. And both Giannis and Porzingis would struggle mightily with Yao. They can try packing the paint, but the skill level of the big men and the proficiency of the entire team from mid-range means it won't be enough.

Off the bench, the Bulls enjoy a tremendous advantage in firepower. Every single Bulls bench player is a bonafide 20+ppg threat that operates from different parts of the floor. The C's on the other hand struggle with spacing issues with the Amen/Brand/DAJ frontcourt allowing the Bulls to key in their perimeter duo. I trust D-Will to exploit  his own mismatch and get Zion going against Brand as well.

I expect the C's to steal a game or 2 in a playoff series thanks to their shooting prowess but to succumb to the Bulls onslaught of power, physicality, skill and size.

Fair play.  Let me see how I can do here, with 11 minutes on the clock before I have to leave work.

I certainly respect power, physicality, skill and size.  It's what my team is built on.  But, two areas the Bulls can't keep up:  spacing.

The Celtics offense isn't a 4-out, 1-in like the 2009 Magic.  That squad made 10.0 3PTs per game.  Steph makes over 5.0 per game on his own, and makes them from 27 feet.

Kobe's eFG% in 2008 was .503.  We all remember the Finals in 2008:  .439 eFG%.  That's just not comparable to the efficiency that my entire roster is putting up.

And, Giannis isn't Dwight.  He can dribble.  He can pass.  He can dunk after taking three dribbles from half-court.

Pacing and spacing is what we do.  And, all five starters have been key pieces on top-3 defenses. 

I've got to run, unfortunately, but more later.  I'd like to get into some of the individual matchups.  One interesting one:  Kobe played Jrue Holiday 10 times in their career.  He only outscored Jrue by nine points per game, while averaging a worse FG%, 3PT%, and eFG%.  If my 3rd / 4th option is limiting Kobe, it's going to be an uphill battle for Chicago!

Alright, now that I have less time pressure, I'm going to give this a go.

Why Boston beats Chicago:

1.  Boston uniquely attacks Chicago's defense

Giannis drives the ball more than any player in the NBA, and he does so on extremely high efficiency.  He drives to score, and he drives to pass.  Here, there's no good way to double-team Giannis, because he's surrounded by four starters who can all hit the three at both volume and high efficiency. 

And, Yao isn't going to be a major factor in stopping Giannis.  Yao's defenses was largely predicated on being huge, but he was never particularly mobile.  He never made an All-Defense team, and only once placed in DPOY voting, finishing 24th.  He also was a fouling machine, finishing in the top-10 in personal fouls three times.  So, it's pick your poison:  Yao can stay at home in the paint, trying to divert Giannis drives.  If he does so, KP is open on the perimeter for a 40% 3PT shot.  If Yao covers KP, then Giannis is 1-on-1 with Horford.

But, Giannis attacking the defense isn't the only weapon Boston has.  They've also got four-time champion Steph Curry, who can hit from anywhere within the halfcourt line.  Chauncey was a great defender; Chauncey can't contain a guy who can hit from anywhere on the court, with no space between him and his defender.  Steph is also a clever passer and driver.  He essentially has to be covered one on one, and he's killing whatever defender he has.

The rest of the starting lineup is made up of a 6'10" NBA finalist who shoots 40% from 3PT and averages five assists per game.  He can post up or shoot from outside.  I mentioned KP, but he can post up or shoot from outside, as well, and does both extremely efficiently.  In fact, KP led the NBA in points per possession on post-ups, and he led the league in drawing fouls on post ups, as well.

Chicago won't score efficiently on Boston

I referenced Jrue on Kobe, but I'll reiterate:  we want Kobe chucking up as many shots as possible.  He had great athleticism and beautiful moves that allowed him to take shots nobody else could get off at the time.  (Now, everybody seems to have that repertoire, particularly the inefficient fadeaway).  The problem with Kobe is, he missed more than he made.  You could get away with that (somewhat) when teams were scoring in the 80s and 90s.  In the modern game, he would be one of the less efficient volume scorers in the league.

Not to belabor my point, but the *least* efficient guy on my team had a .524 eFG%.  I'm not just talking starters, that's everybody from 1 to 12.  Kobe was a .503. 

Of course, hand-in-hand with efficiency is spacing.  Chicago struggles here.  Their starting big men combine for 1.3 3PTs per game.  Kobe makes 1.8; Jimmy Butler makes 0.6.  Chauncey makes 1.8.  The entire Chicago starting lineup makes 5.5 3PTs per game.  Curry makes 5.0 on his own.

A team can't win in the modern NBA without shooting from outside, and it's going to kill the Bulls.  And, the bench doesn't help; Deron (1.0) + Pau (0.0) + Zion (0.2) don't space at all, and Gordon (.504 eFG%) does so inefficiently.

Chicago will be "clogging the lane" on offense, allowing Boston to send a lot of very big bodies at them.  KP protects the paint; Giannis gets to roam, Jrue pressures Kobe into bad shots, Hedo uses his size and fundamental defense (multiple #1 NBA defenses as a starter; DPOY votes) to disrupt Jimmy.  Steph Curry is a smart, fundamentally sound defender.  Chauncey doesn't have the speed to blow by him.  I'll concede that Chauncey is stronger, but that's not going to pressure the defense.  Chauncey could try to post Curry, but there just aren't good options on the perimeter to pass out of the post.






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KP / Giannis / Turkuglu / Jrue / Curry
Sabonis / Brand / A. Thompson / Oladipo / Brunson
Jordan / Bowen

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Re: 2025 CsBlog Post-Draft: Voting, How?s my Team
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I feel like maybe we are losing momentum.

Do we want to open up voting tomorrow at 8am, a day early?

I have started the process of skimming the regular season and can post updates as soon as voting is closed. I do one team at a time, 3 home and 3 away vs all teams.

It looks like all our write ups are essentially in so there?s nothing stopping the voting.

I'm up for whatever.


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KP / Giannis / Turkuglu / Jrue / Curry
Sabonis / Brand / A. Thompson / Oladipo / Brunson
Jordan / Bowen

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Re: 25 CBlog Post-Draft: Voting, Sim
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Let us commence voting at 8am ET tomorrow morning

Tradition is for GMs and observers to PM me with a ranking of 9 teams in order, all teams but your own.

I will keep it confidential and may provide updates and weighted rank averages as votes come in.

If we can get all the voting by GMs in by Friday, I can announce the results and start posting sim updates as soon as this weekend.
CelticsBlog 2005-25 Fantasy Draft Commish - OKC Thunder:
PG: SGA (24-25, MVP)
SG: Klay Thompson (14-15)
SF: Kevin Durant (13-14, MVP)
PF: Evan Mobley (24-25, DPOY)
C: Rudy Gobert (18-19, DPOY)
B: JKidd, Vince, KAT, Siakam, Bam, Rose (MVP), Danny Green

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That Chicago vs Boston matchup would be tough for Yao. Nobody he can credibly defend. He cannot defend Giannis or Porzingis. Chicago will have to play Pau Gasol instead at center.

Pau will have the advantage over Porzingis. Horford is as good of a Giannis defender as you can hope to have. The perimeter defenders are all strong team defenders to give Horford help on Giannis.

Yao can play against E Brand or D Jordan. Chicago can always turn to Tyson Chandler if need be. Brand would be a tough cover for Yao. Okay but not great. Then there is the threat of Steph Curry running around the court. It might not be a Yao series. A Pau Gasol & Tyson Chandler series.

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In 2007 and 2008, Utah caused issues for Yao with Memo Okur (Porzingis comp) and Carlos Boozer (E Brand comp). Yao couldn't defend Okur. He had to defend Boozer. Boozer was too tough for Yao in PnRs with Deron Williams as a PnP threat and was also tough in isolations. Yao played well on offense against Utah but ultimately it was his inability to cover Boozer and the Boozer/Deron PnR that led to Houston losing both years against the Jazz in the 1st round.
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But, Giannis attacking the defense isn't the only weapon Boston has.  They've also got four-time champion Steph Curry, who can hit from anywhere within the halfcourt line.  Chauncey was a great defender; Chauncey can't contain a guy who can hit from anywhere on the court, with no space between him and his defender.  Steph is also a clever passer and driver.  He essentially has to be covered one on one, and he's killing whatever defender he has.

I think it is Kobe who has to check Steph. I don't think Chauncey can do it. That type of assignment would have typically gone to Rip Hamilton. Rip was the quick footed defender. Chauncey was the muscular bulky defender. Rip would be asked to cover quick guards. He defended Tony Parker in the 2005 Finals. So I imagine it will be Kobe who is asked to chase around Steph Curry.

It is something that Kobe can do and do well. He defended many PGs over the course of his career and was also a good off-ball defender chasing SGs through off-ball screens. So he has form for the assignment.

Chauncey would take Jrue. Jimmy on Hedo.

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That Chicago vs Indiana matchup would be tough for Yao. Nobody he can credibly defend. He cannot defend Giannis or Porzingis. Indiana will have to play Pau Gasol instead at center.

Pau will have the advantage over Porzingis. Horford is as good of a Giannis defender as you can hope to have. The perimeter defenders are all strong team defenders to give Horford help on Giannis.

Yao can play against E Brand or D Jordan. Indiana can always turn to Tyson Chandler if need be. Brand would be a tough cover for Yao. Okay but not great. Then there is the threat of Steph Curry running around the court. It might not be a Yao series. A Pau Gasol & Tyson Chandler series.

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In 2007 and 2008, Utah caused issues for Yao with Memo Okur (Porzingis comp) and Carlos Boozer (E Brand comp). Yao couldn't defend Okur. He had to defend Boozer. Boozer was too tough for Yao in PnRs with Deron Williams as a PnP threat and was also tough in isolations. Yao played well on offense against Utah but ultimately it was his inability to cover Boozer and the Boozer/Deron PnR that led to Houston losing both years against the Jazz in the 1st round.

Yeah, I think you're right.  The KP pick didn't get a ton of fanfare in the draft thread, but I loved him beside Giannis on both ends. 

My lineup is like a turbo-charged real life Bucks team,

Lopez, Giannis, Middleton, Jrue, DiVincenzo, Portis

v.

KP, Giannis, Turkoglu, Jrue, Curry, Brand

Of course, any comparison is blown out of the water when you substitute a multi-time MVP for DiVincenzo, but otherwise the roles aren't dissimilar across the top-six.

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think it is Kobe who has to check Steph. I don't think Chauncey can do it. That type of assignment would have typically gone to Rip Hamilton. Rip was the quick footed defender. Chauncey was the muscular bulky defender. Rip would be asked to cover quick guards. He defended Tony Parker in the 2005 Finals. So I imagine it will be Kobe who is asked to chase around Steph Curry.

It is something that Kobe can do and do well. He defended many PGs over the course of his career and was also a good off-ball defender chasing SGs through off-ball screens. So he has form for the assignment.

This would be interesting.  I honestly don't recall how Kobe defended many PGs, other than Rondo.  There, he was quite effective, as I recollect.  Of course, Rondo wasn't the scorer or shooter that Curry was, but Kobe really disrupted him in the Finals.


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KP / Giannis / Turkuglu / Jrue / Curry
Sabonis / Brand / A. Thompson / Oladipo / Brunson
Jordan / Bowen

Redshirt:  Cooper Flagg

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Completely arbitrary ranking of 13th men:

1.  Cooper Flagg
2.  Sidney Moncrief
3.  Brian Scalabrine
4.  Leon Powe
5.  Reggie Miller
6.  Bernard King
7.  Tacko Fall
8.  Malik Fitts
9.  Jim Jackson
10. Drake


I'M THE SILVERBACK GORILLA IN THIS MOTHER... AND DON'T NONE OF YA'LL EVER FORGET IT!

KP / Giannis / Turkuglu / Jrue / Curry
Sabonis / Brand / A. Thompson / Oladipo / Brunson
Jordan / Bowen

Redshirt:  Cooper Flagg