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Re: I Think I Am Aboard The Tank Train Now
« Reply #105 on: Yesterday at 03:47:15 PM »

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Maxey turned out to be a good pick, but that is not what I was referring to.  I was more referring to their tanking era picks:

2014   #3   Embiid
2014  #11  Elfrid Payton
2015   #3   Okafor
2016   #1   Simmons
2017   #1   Fultz

That is a lot of draft capital and not a whole lot to show for it.  They tanked miserably to get all those picks.

It is early but Edgecombe looks legit as well.  Yeah there were some stinky one during that era With Elton Brand. 

But can you say that about  Daryl Morey era.

Re: I Think I Am Aboard The Tank Train Now
« Reply #106 on: Yesterday at 04:20:26 PM »

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Maxey turned out to be a good pick, but that is not what I was referring to.  I was more referring to their tanking era picks:

2014   #3   Embiid
2014  #11  Elfrid Payton
2015   #3   Okafor
2016   #1   Simmons
2017   #1   Fultz

That is a lot of draft capital and not a whole lot to show for it.  They tanked miserably to get all those picks.

It is early but Edgecombe looks legit as well.  Yeah there were some stinky one during that era With Elton Brand. 

But can you say that about  Daryl Morey era.

All teams/GMs have good and bad draft eras, most not as bad as that PHI run.  That isn't my point.  My point is that if you decide to tank by selling off good players for draft picks, that is no guarantee you will get better.  At best, you are like OKC, and you draft well, and get really lucky to trade for a future MVP, and even for them it took 6 years.  At worst, you are PHI and after 8 or so years of it, you still aren't that good.

Hopefully, BOS would never draft and trade as bad as PHI, but there is no guarantee that you will be the next OKC.  Unless you can tell me who the next MVP-to-be is so that BOS can trade for him.

Re: I Think I Am Aboard The Tank Train Now
« Reply #107 on: Yesterday at 10:40:46 PM »

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Re: I Think I Am Aboard The Tank Train Now
« Reply #108 on: Yesterday at 11:20:29 PM »

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Maxey turned out to be a good pick, but that is not what I was referring to.  I was more referring to their tanking era picks:

2014   #3   Embiid
2014  #11  Elfrid Payton
2015   #3   Okafor
2016   #1   Simmons
2017   #1   Fultz

That is a lot of draft capital and not a whole lot to show for it.  They tanked miserably to get all those picks.

It is early but Edgecombe looks legit as well.  Yeah there were some stinky one during that era With Elton Brand. 

But can you say that about  Daryl Morey era.

All teams/GMs have good and bad draft eras, most not as bad as that PHI run.  That isn't my point.  My point is that if you decide to tank by selling off good players for draft picks, that is no guarantee you will get better.  At best, you are like OKC, and you draft well, and get really lucky to trade for a future MVP, and even for them it took 6 years.  At worst, you are PHI and after 8 or so years of it, you still aren't that good.

Hopefully, BOS would never draft and trade as bad as PHI, but there is no guarantee that you will be the next OKC.  Unless you can tell me who the next MVP-to-be is so that BOS can trade for him.
at best you are the Spurs who drafted Duncan and immediately became a championship contender and remained one for 20 years.

Boston had another team tank for them, but without Brown and Tatum, Boston doesn't win the title nor remain a Finals contender for 10 years.  And remember Ainge traded another top 10 pick for Kyrie. Had Boston kept that pick, I don't think they take Sexton, not sure they take SGA, but Bridges seemed like an Ainge type pick.  Boston needed high draft picks over multiple drafts to be a contender, they just used another team's picks to do it. 

Teams tank because tanking works. That is why the lottery was implemented, you know, to lesson the advantage of tanking.
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