Offseason Thread

[Birdman]

All these Bleacher report trade ideas...

Payton Pritchard and 5 second-round picks for Derrick Lively. Will you do it

Nope

[Who]

All these Bleacher report trade ideas...

Payton Pritchard and 5 second-round picks for Derrick Lively. Will you do it

Of course but Dallas would never do that.

[keevsnick]

So quick reset of the Celtics. they now have 13 players under contract. Assume they fill a 14th roster spot with a vet min guy and that would put them a little over 17.3 million into the tax. If they dumped Hauser+Niang that's 18.3 million, but they'd still have to fill those roster spots with minimums which would put them back over the tax. Basically, if they are trying to get under the tax there's no real way to do so without trading Simons (assuming White/Brown are staying).

Assuming all they wanted to do was bring back Kornet and Horford on minimums to fill out their roster, that would still push them back over the 2nd apron (just barely). Of course they'd still have until the trade deadline to get back under.

So all of this leads to two conclusions. If they just want to stay under the 2nd apron they'll probably dump Niang somewhere to open up enough to bring back Kornet and/or Horford on something more than the minimum. If they want to get under the tax it will probably involve Simons and Niang being traded for less salary coming back.

[Who]

With the Spurs having acquired De'Aaron Fox at the trade deadline, and drafting Stephon Castle and Dylan Harper in back-to-back years, Paul's time in San Antonio is expected to be over.

A suggested natural transition would have been to the Dallas Mavericks. The Mavs are looking for a veteran point guard to hold down the fort until Kyrie Irving returns from his torn ACL around midseason. Paul would seem to be a perfect fit.

However, 40-year-old is focused on playing closer to home. Paul talked at time last season about how hard it was to be so far away from his family, who have made Los Angeles their home base. That has the point looking at teams on the west coast, which could include both LA teams, as well as the Sacramento Kings or Phoenix Suns.

Sacramento would be a great for CP3. They desperately need a PG after losing D Fox. CP3 (offense) and Devin Carter (defense) can be a nice 1-2 punch at PG.

I also like the LA Clippers for CP3. He would be a good backup PG behind Kris Dunn. They avoided playing a backup PG last year and stayed big with 3 wings and no small guard. That worked well. But CP3 could give them something different.

Phoenix could be good. CP3 feels more like a lateral move from Tyus Jones. But stilll. CP3 did well there. They have that connection. And they could use a backup PG if not a starting PG.

[mobilija]

So quick reset of the Celtics. they now have 13 players under contract. Assume they fill a 14th roster spot with a vet min guy and that would put them a little over 17.3 million into the tax. If they dumped Hauser+Niang that's 18.3 million, but they'd still have to fill those roster spots with minimums which would put them back over the tax. Basically, if they are trying to get under the tax there's no real way to do so without trading Simons (assuming White/Brown are staying).

Assuming all they wanted to do was bring back Kornet and Horford on minimums to fill out their roster, that would still push them back over the 2nd apron (just barely). Of course they'd still have until the trade deadline to get back under.

So all of this leads to two conclusions. If they just want to stay under the 2nd apron they'll probably dump Niang somewhere to open up enough to bring back Kornet and/or Horford on something more than the minimum. If they want to get under the tax it will probably involve Simons and Niang being traded for less salary coming back.

Hence the need to acquire 2nd round picks over drafting better fringe potential rotation players.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

All these Bleacher report trade ideas...

Payton Pritchard and 5 second-round picks for Derrick Lively. Will you do it

Nope

I don't know what to make of that. I love Pritchard, and having him on his contract is super valuable, but Lively is an excellent fit as a young big.

I also think the Mavs have plenty of bigs between Gafford and Davis, with Washington and Flagg able to slide up to the 4 as well.

But why wouldn't the reigning 6moty be worth enough not to need to add any picks to get Lively? I mean, if you think Lively is a future all-star, obviously he's worth more than Pritchard, but does anyone think that? I haven't seen enough offense from him for that.