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Re: 2025-26 Celtics Roster
« Reply #75 on: May 18, 2025, 10:24:46 PM »

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Jrue for Norman Powell plus Drew Eubanks.

Trade Eubanks into another team's MLE; stretch Powell.

That saves more than $25.5 million.

Trade KP or stretch him and we're under the luxury tax while still keeping Hauser.

I really don't want us to stretch someone. That makes our salaries more complicated for the next 7 years. There has to be some way to make this work.

In this case, three years, two beyond next.

Two seasons of a sub-$7 million cap hit would be worth it to save many times more that in tax.


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Re: 2025-26 Celtics Roster
« Reply #76 on: May 19, 2025, 07:50:59 AM »

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I think there is a better than good chance Jrue and Sam get traded. Al retires.

I don't think they can move KP until the deadline or you just keep him for the playoffs and let him walk.

Tatum. PP. Brown and White are the 4 you don't move unless they get some sort of massive deal for JB. Baylor moves into the Hauser role. Walsh is useless and Davidson is a career G League guy. Not sure you can count on either to be legit every night players.


Re: 2025-26 Celtics Roster
« Reply #77 on: May 19, 2025, 07:52:40 AM »

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Brainstorming more ideas...

Jrue for Norman Powell plus Drew Eubanks.

Trade Eubanks into another team's MLE; stretch Powell.

That saves more than $25.5 million.

Trade KP or stretch him and we're under the luxury tax while still keeping Hauser.

I really don't want us to stretch someone. That makes our salaries more complicated for the next 7 years. There has to be some way to make this work.

I don't think anybody wants to waive and stretch, but cutting salary next season does remain a priority and we need to get creative in how we do it.

Everybody talks about Brooklyn as an option, but they need to be incentivized. Rather than giving up picks for them to take on our 'bad' contracts, I can imagine a scenario where we receive several 1st for Derrick White and they accept his whole contract. Or how about several 1sts and Cam Johnson for Jaylen Brown?

I just think we need to be prepared to see everybody but Tatum on the block. Jaylen is paid so much money in the future. Derrick White has a lot more value than Jrue. We may try to use our good players/contracts to slash salary and do a reset for the future, adding young asset/picks, and getting out of the tax for two years. It's the grim reality of the situation

Re: 2025-26 Celtics Roster
« Reply #78 on: May 19, 2025, 07:53:22 AM »

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Hearing ppl saying Celtics trade Brown to Dallas for Flagg plus other involved & a third team?I just don?t see them trading Flagg after the backlash over Luka plus don?t think Celtics would trade Brown
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Re: 2025-26 Celtics Roster
« Reply #79 on: May 19, 2025, 07:58:17 AM »

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Hearing ppl saying Celtics trade Brown to Dallas for Flagg plus other involved & a third team?I just don?t see them trading Flagg after the backlash over Luka plus don?t think Celtics would trade Brown

I don't there is anyway Boston gets close to the top of the draft let alone gets Flagg.

Re: 2025-26 Celtics Roster
« Reply #80 on: May 19, 2025, 07:59:00 AM »

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Hearing ppl saying Celtics trade Brown to Dallas for Flagg plus other involved & a third team?I just don?t see them trading Flagg after the backlash over Luka plus don?t think Celtics would trade Brown

If you buy the conspiracy, they traded Luka to LAL to appease the NBA and the payback was getting this #1 pick.  Would seem odd to then trade that pick, but who knows.  What has been reported is primarily speculation.  I would be OK with it but I agree that it does not seem all that likely.  There is going to be a lot of speculation in the coming weeks and months.

Re: 2025-26 Celtics Roster
« Reply #81 on: May 19, 2025, 08:03:18 AM »

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Hearing ppl saying Celtics trade Brown to Dallas for Flagg plus other involved & a third team?I just don?t see them trading Flagg after the backlash over Luka plus don?t think Celtics would trade Brown

I don't there is anyway Boston gets close to the top of the draft let alone gets Flagg.

Yeah.  The only player that I think Dallas would definitely trade Flagg for is Jokic.  Others are debatable, but they're all MVP caliber players.


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Re: 2025-26 Celtics Roster
« Reply #82 on: May 19, 2025, 08:16:14 AM »

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I think this year with both picks the Cs have (or they package them) I don't think they have the benefit of picking guys that aren't somewhat ready to play. Can't pick a guy that needs to develop like Walsh and Davison.

They need guys that can immediately bolster the bench.

Re: 2025-26 Celtics Roster
« Reply #83 on: May 19, 2025, 09:13:54 AM »

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Hearing ppl saying Celtics trade Brown to Dallas for Flagg plus other involved & a third team?I just don?t see them trading Flagg after the backlash over Luka plus don?t think Celtics would trade Brown

I don't there is anyway Boston gets close to the top of the draft let alone gets Flagg.

Yeah.  The only player that I think Dallas would definitely trade Flagg for is Jokic.  Others are debatable, but they're all MVP caliber players.

I think Brown is the perfect fit on Dallas right now.  Brown, Kyrie, AD, and Klay?  Built to win now!  Time for the NBA to payback the C's for all they've gone through.  Remember when Reggie passed and we had to carry his salary for two more years?  How about the NBA stealing lottery picks?  Yeah, it's time for some payback!
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Re: 2025-26 Celtics Roster
« Reply #84 on: May 19, 2025, 09:38:37 AM »

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Hearing ppl saying Celtics trade Brown to Dallas for Flagg plus other involved & a third team?I just don?t see them trading Flagg after the backlash over Luka plus don?t think Celtics would trade Brown

That?s probably because there was a report that came out saying Brad interviewed Cooper Flagg. If i remember correctly, Brad explained before that he likes interviewing/working out guys who aren?t in their draft range just to get a feel of how a particular player is?just in case he has the chance to get them in the future.  I think that?s all there is to it.

Re: 2025-26 Celtics Roster
« Reply #85 on: May 19, 2025, 09:50:04 AM »

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It's hard to know how things might go. If the second apron is a big issue I can see two trades to get them under it.

Brown to Blazers
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Ayton, Simon, pick 11 and unprotected 2027 first.


Holiday and Hauser to Pelicans
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CJ, a 2nd rd pick and TPE.

Gives a lot of cap relief and a starting Center.

Re: 2025-26 Celtics Roster
« Reply #86 on: May 19, 2025, 10:14:38 AM »

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Dallas won?t trade the #1 pick because they are too scared at this point.  That said, if they truly believe Anthony Davis gets them closer to a championship than Luka Doncic, then they should do so.  Flagg is a great prospect, but he is not Victor Wembanyama.  In other words, he is unlikely to be an elite NBA player from the jump.

Further, Flagg?s best position is at the 4, which is also AD?s preferred position.  This means that one of the two will have to be in a sub-optimal role.

Is JB the right player for Dallas?  I would argue he is one of a handful that fits well.  Kyrie, JB, and AD form a much more cohesive core in terms of positional fit than do Kyrie, Flagg, and AD.  And in terms of being able to compete for championships with their pre-existing core of Kyrie and AD, Jaylen is on a far better timeline than is Flagg.

The other sensible option for Dallas would be to trade AD and lean into a longer-term build with Flagg, but Nico Harrison would also be hard-pressed to do that from a PR perspective, as Dallas is not going to get back Luka.  So instead Dallas will be caught in the middle.

Re: 2025-26 Celtics Roster
« Reply #87 on: May 19, 2025, 11:50:16 AM »

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Hearing ppl saying Celtics trade Brown to Dallas for Flagg plus other involved & a third team?I just don?t see them trading Flagg after the backlash over Luka plus don?t think Celtics would trade Brown

Nico should double-down. Have a vision, go all-in. Winning the lottery fast-tracks you to where you want to go, Flagg would be a pivot from the trade in February and certainly fit much better with Luka?s timeline. Trade him for an All-NBA player now to go with your two All-NBA players who are both over 32-years-old. You think an 18-year-old is the missing piece? Even if he ends up better than say, Brown, his ceiling will be reached when AD and Kyrie are no longer impact players. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

That said, almost no clear way to get Brown to Dallas without them having to give up half their roster to match salaries. Not going to happen. Just like Giannis.
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Re: 2025-26 Celtics Roster
« Reply #88 on: May 19, 2025, 12:03:01 PM »

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I still think with Dallas, a Jrue trade makes a lot of sense also given the surplus of bigs they'll now have with Flagg being drafted, and a need for a defensive guard. Plus Kyrie will miss the first half of the season at least.

See if you can do something like Jrue + a second round pick for Gafford + Hardy. Along those lines. Maybe a 3rd team helps to facilitate
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Re: 2025-26 Celtics Roster
« Reply #89 on: May 19, 2025, 12:37:57 PM »

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Hearing ppl saying Celtics trade Brown to Dallas for Flagg plus other involved & a third team?I just don?t see them trading Flagg after the backlash over Luka plus don?t think Celtics would trade Brown

Nico should double-down. Have a vision, go all-in. Winning the lottery fast-tracks you to where you want to go, Flagg would be a pivot from the trade in February and certainly fit much better with Luka?s timeline. Trade him for an All-NBA player now to go with your two All-NBA players who are both over 32-years-old. You think an 18-year-old is the missing piece? Even if he ends up better than say, Brown, his ceiling will be reached when AD and Kyrie are no longer impact players. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

That said, almost no clear way to get Brown to Dallas without them having to give up half their roster to match salaries. Not going to happen. Just like Giannis.

It's pretty easy if you factor in the #1 pick salary of $13.8M.

I've seen conflicting reports of whether Dallas will be in the 2nd Apron. They have a lot of cap holds they can seemingly let go of to get under it, but pretending they are, you can do: #1 ($13.8M) Klay ($16.7M), Gafford or PJ ($14.3), and Martin or Marshall ($9.3M).

They still have: AD, Jaylen, Kyrie, Lively, PJ, Martin, and Christie. Along with possibly re-signing Dinwiddie and Exum. And they have some other decent guys along with being able to fill out their roster with a couple of vets.

That's a championship contender for sure. Dallas walked right into a free #1 pick and they could cash in on that opportunity, but I highly doubt they'll do so. It sounds absurd to even think about.