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Re: 2025-26 Celtics Roster
« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2025, 05:33:56 AM »

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To help all the potential GMs here, here's the salary cap spreadsheet I updated for 2025-26. I got all the data from Spotrac.com and just put it in a table and graph format to make it easier to see. The numbers above the graphs are the number of years for each of the guaranteed contracts. At the bottom of the table are the salary cap, luxury tax, and the aprons, and how much the Cs are over those limits.

Any odd typos are because I suck at typing on an iPhone :D


Re: 2025-26 Celtics Roster
« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2025, 07:33:39 AM »

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I think Hauser, Al and Jrue are all gone.

trade em all for GIANNIS. KP also.

GIANNIS wants out of milwaukee. GET HIM. NOW.

can we get giannis without tradingh brown. let brown and giannis have a run next year before JT comes back? or do we have to trade him and wait for JT to return  in 2 years?
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Re: 2025-26 Celtics Roster
« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2025, 12:10:33 PM »

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Playing around with numbers here...

Players with contracts next year (12) = $227,784,973
#28 pick:  $2,783,880
14th spot:  $2,229,274

Total:  $232,798,127
2nd Apron:  $207,825,000

Deficit:  $24,973,127


Step 1:  Stretch Jrue -- saves $17,485,714 (not counting cap charge)
Deficit:  $7,487,413

Step 2:  Trade Hauser into another team's MLE:  saves 10,044,644
Surplus:  $2,557,231

That leaves us with 12 players, which I think is sufficient to avoid incomplete roster charges in the off-season?
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I think at that point we could then operate as a below-the-2nd-apron team?

Next:  Trade Tillman:  $2,546,675; Cut Davison:  $2,270,735
Surplus: $7,374,641 (10 players)

Sign two vet minimums ($4,592,548), 2 rookie minimums ($2,545,738)

Surplus:  $236,355, with 14 players under contract

Roster:

Tatum
Brown
Porzingis
White
Pritchard
Scheierman
Queta
Walsh
#28
VM - Horford?
VM - Kornet?
VM -?
RM -?
RM -?

I suspect fans wouldn't be happy with that off-season, but management would be very pleased.  We'd also be starting the 2026-27 season in the ballpark of $180-$185 million, which means we'd be $47 million below the second apron, $34 million below the 1st apron, and below the luxury tax before filling out the roster (including potentially signing KP at a reduced rate)






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Re: 2025-26 Celtics Roster
« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2025, 02:16:56 PM »

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Roy, I can?t imagine the Celtics are targeting the second apron with Tatum out.  Rather, they will be targeting the luxury tax.

Re: 2025-26 Celtics Roster
« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2025, 02:28:38 PM »

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I think holiday will be traded before season or at trade deadline if it doesn?t look like Celtics going to go far..doubt anyone wants porzingus..Horford May retire cause of him being with his family..they not trading Brown nor White
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

Re: 2025-26 Celtics Roster
« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2025, 02:49:45 PM »

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Roy, I can?t imagine the Celtics are targeting the second apron with Tatum out.  Rather, they will be targeting the luxury tax.

Do you think that that can be done in one off-season?  In most years, perhaps, but there's so little cap space around the league.  I don't see much of a path to shave the $40 million or so that it would take.


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Re: 2025-26 Celtics Roster
« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2025, 03:13:22 PM »

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I can't think about next season's roster. Unless Brad can pull off the trade of all trades?acquiring a superstar who's a perfect fit for this team?I don't think next year's team is going deep in the playoffs, regardless of who's on the roster. If Tatum is as good as many people think he is, next year's team will win significantly fewer games than this year's, and that doesn't bode well for title contention. So I guess, IMO, it doesn't much matter who's on the roster next season.
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Re: 2025-26 Celtics Roster
« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2025, 05:22:32 PM »

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Roy, I can?t imagine the Celtics are targeting the second apron with Tatum out.  Rather, they will be targeting the luxury tax.

Do you think that that can be done in one off-season?  In most years, perhaps, but there's so little cap space around the league.  I don't see much of a path to shave the $40 million or so that it would take.

Yes, I think they may have to make a series of moves to trade some of the salary they take back for Jrue and KP, but it can be done.  Also I think they will entertain serious offers for JB, and could see a team that misses out on Giannis making a big offer that includes some salary relief.  Houston in particular should be watched.  They said only Thompson was untouchable, and Sengun can match salaries with Brown.

Re: 2025-26 Celtics Roster
« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2025, 07:24:07 PM »

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White is untouchable.

I will throw hands with anyone on here who puts him in a trade idea or something
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Re: 2025-26 Celtics Roster
« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2025, 02:19:53 PM »

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I'm seeing reports online that actually say Jrue could be highly coveted this offseason. The logic is, his defense and veteran presence would be useful for some teams who are sort of ready to take the "next step" and if most of these teams strike out on Giannis, Durant, etc., then Jrue could be an alternative. A handful of teams like Orlando, Detroit, Houston, Atlanta and Sacramento I've seen mentioned.

Admittedly though, Porzingis and his durability issues may limit any return and this postseason run + illness aren't helping that. C's may have to decide if they are fine dumping KP or just trading Jrue/Hauser and keeping Porzingis on a cheaper deal?
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Re: 2025-26 Celtics Roster
« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2025, 09:52:06 PM »

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White is untouchable.

I will throw hands with anyone on here who puts him in a trade idea or something
I will bite on that. It is time to start thinking outside the box. White would be really coveted around the league. The only untouchable is Jayson Tatum.

Re: 2025-26 Celtics Roster
« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2025, 10:18:49 PM »

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I will die on the hill that Brown needs to go. He is not a $60M player. No, it?s not on him we lost this series. But the very few times he needed to step up for Tatum he?s failed miserably. Not a shot or possession or quarter, but a game. If you want to consider Game 5 that, meh.

Finals MVP was bogus (ECF was deserved), he?s just a secondary star and gets paid more than a superstar.

I don?t even think there is a trade out there given his salary and our trade restrictions. Scary what next season can look like. If Horford retires (as I expect), Brad will have to look to retool the roster.
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Re: 2025-26 Celtics Roster
« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2025, 10:32:18 PM »

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I can't think about next season's roster. Unless Brad can pull off the trade of all trades?acquiring a superstar who's a perfect fit for this team?I don't think next year's team is going deep in the playoffs, regardless of who's on the roster. If Tatum is as good as many people think he is, next year's team will win significantly fewer games than this year's, and that doesn't bode well for title contention. So I guess, IMO, it doesn't much matter who's on the roster next season.

Brad?s hands are beyond tied with the restrictions based on their payroll.

He has assets to make deals but he?s not allowed to combine salaries or take on more $$$. Cap and roster is an absolute disaster if you have to punt a season because of Tatum injury.

I still say trade Brown to Milwaukee for Lillard and all the picks they can give. Keeps Giannis there, we can tank next year. You?re just not getting value for Brown IMO.
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Re: 2025-26 Celtics Roster
« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2025, 10:40:05 PM »

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I want to keep Al in green. Maybe he comes back for the minimum. Or let him semi retire, give him a coaching gig in Boston. If he?s still fit for the next title run then make him the ?PJ Brown? of that team. JT has frequently mentioned that Al is his favorite teammate and role model. I think it?s crucial that he?s there as JT rehabs.

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« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2025, 10:41:32 PM »

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White is untouchable.

I will throw hands with anyone on here who puts him in a trade idea or something
I will bite on that. It is time to start thinking outside the box. White would be really coveted around the league. The only untouchable is Jayson Tatum.

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