Red Sox 2025 Season

[Roy H.]

I honestly can't follow the Sox reclamation project logic. I mean, I'm happy Giolito is looking good, but $19M for him and $21M on Buehler... $40M/year is enough to afford any pitcher in the league not named Ohtani. Why on Earth do you commit that kind of money where the best likely outcome is that one of the two becomes maybe... a #2 or #3 starter? They wouldn't be 100x better off nabbing Burnes or Wheeler even if they had to offer $45M/year?

So now we spent $40M this year, and because Giolito looks good we need to pay him $19M next year to be maybe our #4 starter?

Imagine if we had Wheeler instead and it was Crochet / Wheeler / Bello / Tolle...

Dunno if Burnes and Wheeler are the best examples.  Burnes had Tommy John surgery in June and Wheeler is out 6-8 months with blood clots.

IMO it's all about length of contract with older pitchers. By the time these guys get to free agency they're often close to 30 years old abd are due to break down.=

Thoughts on Max Fried and his deal?

[Roy H.]

Ugh.  Anthony out for the rest of the regular season.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Ugh.  Anthony out for the rest of the regular season.

What?!?

[Phantom255x]

Ugh.  Anthony out for the rest of the regular season.

What?!?

Oblique strain, 4-6 weeks.

Best case scenario? He returns wild card series or early ALDS.

Worse case? Probably World Series which I highly doubt the Sox make (but hey I'd love to be wrong)

[celticsclay]

I honestly can't follow the Sox reclamation project logic. I mean, I'm happy Giolito is looking good, but $19M for him and $21M on Buehler... $40M/year is enough to afford any pitcher in the league not named Ohtani. Why on Earth do you commit that kind of money where the best likely outcome is that one of the two becomes maybe... a #2 or #3 starter? They wouldn't be 100x better off nabbing Burnes or Wheeler even if they had to offer $45M/year?

So now we spent $40M this year, and because Giolito looks good we need to pay him $19M next year to be maybe our #4 starter?

Imagine if we had Wheeler instead and it was Crochet / Wheeler / Bello / Tolle...

Dunno if Burnes and Wheeler are the best examples.  Burnes had Tommy John surgery in June and Wheeler is out 6-8 months with blood clots.

IMO it's all about length of contract with older pitchers. By the time these guys get to free agency they're often close to 30 years old abd are due to break down.=

Thoughts on Max Fried and his deal?

I feel like the Fried deal is great for the first 5 years, but the last 3 are going to be a complete disaster. 31 million each year when he is 36, 37 and 38?

[Redz]

Any other old schoolers getting ` 75 Jim Rice vibes from the Roman Anthony injury?

Hopefully he has a career like Jim Ed's.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Ugh.  Anthony out for the rest of the regular season.

What?!?

Oblique strain, 4-6 weeks.

Best case scenario? He returns wild card series or early ALDS.

Worse case? Probably World Series which I highly doubt the Sox make (but hey I'd love to be wrong)

Horrible luck. Now they've gotta fill in with overpaid/underperforming Yoshida or some quad-A guy.

[Silas]

Wonder how many on this forum would have guessed the Sox would have the same number of wins (81) as the Dodgers with 16 games left in the season?  Playoff season is close and Boston is a player.  Also, how about the lefty youngsters Trolle and Early.  Those two along with Crochet next season should put the Sox at the top of the heap!

[Redz]

Wonder how many on this forum would have guessed the Sox would have the same number of wins (81) as the Dodgers with 16 games left in the season?  Playoff season is close and Boston is a player.  Also, how about the lefty youngsters Trolle and Early.  Those two along with Crochet next season should put the Sox at the top of the heap!

The kid looked super poised last night.  I think his "stuff" should translate better to a more consistent second start than Tolle's too.  Just a more poilished product.  We shall see. 

They seem to have gotten over the shell shock of losing Anthony.  Would love to see Bregman get some power back.

[Vermont Green]

Wonder how many on this forum would have guessed the Sox would have the same number of wins (81) as the Dodgers with 16 games left in the season?  Playoff season is close and Boston is a player.  Also, how about the lefty youngsters Trolle and Early.  Those two along with Crochet next season should put the Sox at the top of the heap!

The "guess" that I posted was 10 games over 0.500 (so 86-76) and squeak into the playoffs.  Looks like they will be better than that.  The Mariners are on pace for about that and it looks like they will be the one to squeak in.  I also predicted that Story would hit 0.270 and have 20 HRs and that he would need to if the Red Sox were going to make the playoffs.  He has come through with a good season, which is probably a surprise to many.

The Sox are in a good place, even after trading Devers and losing Houck to injury.  It is lining up for them to play the Yankees in the wild card round.  That is definitely a winnable series.  They could still win the Division.  I predict they will add a couple of pitchers in the off season and be even better next season.

[libermaniac]

I find it odd that nobody is looking over their shoulder at the Rangers. Sox are only 4 games up with 15 left and Texas holds the tiebreaker. I guess it?s the pre-2004 fan in me that?s nervous.

[Jiri Welsch]

I find it odd that nobody is looking over their shoulder at the Rangers. Sox are only 4 games up with 15 left and Texas holds the tiebreaker. I guess it?s the pre-2004 fan in me that?s nervous.

11 as a magic number (for the third Wild Card spot) with 15 to go seems very do-able.

[libermaniac]

I find it odd that nobody is looking over their shoulder at the Rangers. Sox are only 4 games up with 15 left and Texas holds the tiebreaker. I guess it?s the pre-2004 fan in me that?s nervous.

11 as a magic number (for the third Wild Card spot) with 15 to go seems very do-able.

Pretty sure it?s 12. Texas has 15 more games and could get to 92 wins. Sox have 81 wins. 11 puts us in a tie and we lose tiebreaker.

That said, it?s certainly doable but it?s not impossible we blow it especially given that the Rangers are playing great and our schedule is tougher down the stretch. I thought Texas would struggle vs Houston and Milwaukee but went 5-1.

I guess it?s nice that both Texas and the Mariners play the Astros. So they?ll beat up on each other a bit and we just need to stay ahead of one of those teams.

[Vermont Green]

I find it odd that nobody is looking over their shoulder at the Rangers. Sox are only 4 games up with 15 left and Texas holds the tiebreaker. I guess it's the pre-2004 fan in me that's nervous.

11 as a magic number (for the third Wild Card spot) with 15 to go seems very do-able.

TEX has been playing well.  They could pass SEA and get the 3rd wildcard spot (only 1.5 games back).  They could also win the West, they are only 2.5 games behind HOU.  And yes, nothing is guaranteed with BOS only 4.0 games ahead of TEX.

The Sox have their flaws, their weak spots, but so do these other teams.  ESPN projects 95% likely the Sox make the playoffs, only 26% for TEX, which means Sox fans should be worried.

3 games coming up vs. NYY.  Winning that series would help a lot.