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Re: Celtics Regular Season News 2024-25
« Reply #75 on: October 19, 2024, 12:57:04 PM »

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Frustrating to keep two guys in Walsh and springer that are offensively challenged and passing on a guy like Walker that can score some.

Walsh makes sense.  He's cheap and has some NBA potential.

Springer doesn't, and never did.





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Re: Celtics Regular Season News 2024-25
« Reply #76 on: October 19, 2024, 01:01:20 PM »

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Frustrating to keep two guys in Walsh and springer that are offensively challenged and passing on a guy like Walker that can score some.

Walsh makes sense.  He's cheap and has some NBA potential.

Springer doesn't, and never did.

Springer is not good. Can live with Walsh not sure there is much there with him.

Re: Celtics Regular Season News 2024-25
« Reply #77 on: October 19, 2024, 03:58:38 PM »

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Bobby Manning: Sources: #Celtics waived Ron Harper Jr., Jay Scrubb and Hason Ward today. All three likely Maine bound. Lonnie Walker IV remains on the roster for now. Deadline to make a decision on him is 5PM on Saturday. via Twitter RealBobManning

Hmm?Brad is probably trying to cook up a deal that would allow us to keep Lonnie and the 15th slot open. I think Springer is the guy to be dealt if ever. If no deal is made then Lonnie probably goes to Maine where any team can pick him up? Interesting next few hours ahead.

It's logical why we'd want to dump Springer.  I just can't imagine anybody will take him for a cost that we find reasonable.

This is a situation where the 2nd apron restriction on trading cash really hurts us. In years past, it would have been easy to find someone willing to absorb his contract in exchange for us giving enough cash to cover his salary

Yeah, he?s gonna cost draft capital to dump.

If he is waived and the Celtics stretch and eat his salary, is that still subject to luxury tax?

Yes, we'd pay tax on the amount we pay him this year.

Also, it?s too late to stretch his salary.  I believe that deadline is Sep 1.

That said, Springer is not an albatross, and the Celtics don?t have to move him, or anyone, to keep Walker next week and avoid the luxury tax.  They only have to dump someone by the deadline to reap the cap savings.  It is really February?s problem if they like Walker, not today?s.

If this is true, I really don?t understand why they waived Walker today.

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Re: Celtics Regular Season News 2024-25
« Reply #78 on: October 20, 2024, 08:50:22 AM »

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Bobby Manning: Sources: #Celtics waived Ron Harper Jr., Jay Scrubb and Hason Ward today. All three likely Maine bound. Lonnie Walker IV remains on the roster for now. Deadline to make a decision on him is 5PM on Saturday. via Twitter RealBobManning

Hmm?Brad is probably trying to cook up a deal that would allow us to keep Lonnie and the 15th slot open. I think Springer is the guy to be dealt if ever. If no deal is made then Lonnie probably goes to Maine where any team can pick him up? Interesting next few hours ahead.

It's logical why we'd want to dump Springer.  I just can't imagine anybody will take him for a cost that we find reasonable.

This is a situation where the 2nd apron restriction on trading cash really hurts us. In years past, it would have been easy to find someone willing to absorb his contract in exchange for us giving enough cash to cover his salary

Yeah, he?s gonna cost draft capital to dump.

If he is waived and the Celtics stretch and eat his salary, is that still subject to luxury tax?

Yes, we'd pay tax on the amount we pay him this year.

Also, it?s too late to stretch his salary.  I believe that deadline is Sep 1.

That said, Springer is not an albatross, and the Celtics don?t have to move him, or anyone, to keep Walker next week and avoid the luxury tax.  They only have to dump someone by the deadline to reap the cap savings.  It is really February?s problem if they like Walker, not today?s.

If this is true, I really don?t understand why they waived Walker today.

Probably bc he?s not as good or useful as some people think he is. Boston is something like his 4th team in 6 years. Prrhaps the open roster spot has more value.

1) Walker is a spark plug scorer, not very efficient. Below the league average in TS%. Good as a spot up shooter which could be useful but we have lots of guards who are good at that. Inconsistent creating shots for himself, more so in creating for others. He would probably be the 2nd worst defender on the team, ahead of Schierman. Does this fit the team identity?

2) Not sure he fills much of a team need. The open roster spot gives the team flexibility to add a player at a later date. Perhaps there are some injuries or a player developing in the farm system breaks out that would be a better fit. Maybe, they feel he will be available later if no other needs arise.

Maybe the cynics are right and it?s just penny pinching. But I?m sure the team did some cost analysis and decided the value wasn?t there for the talent, team needs and future considerations. Money is a factor but I doubt it?s the overriding one.
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Re: Celtics Regular Season News 2024-25
« Reply #79 on: October 20, 2024, 02:25:11 PM »

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Bobby Manning: Sources: #Celtics waived Ron Harper Jr., Jay Scrubb and Hason Ward today. All three likely Maine bound. Lonnie Walker IV remains on the roster for now. Deadline to make a decision on him is 5PM on Saturday. via Twitter RealBobManning

Hmm?Brad is probably trying to cook up a deal that would allow us to keep Lonnie and the 15th slot open. I think Springer is the guy to be dealt if ever. If no deal is made then Lonnie probably goes to Maine where any team can pick him up? Interesting next few hours ahead.

It's logical why we'd want to dump Springer.  I just can't imagine anybody will take him for a cost that we find reasonable.

This is a situation where the 2nd apron restriction on trading cash really hurts us. In years past, it would have been easy to find someone willing to absorb his contract in exchange for us giving enough cash to cover his salary

Yeah, he?s gonna cost draft capital to dump.

If he is waived and the Celtics stretch and eat his salary, is that still subject to luxury tax?

Yes, we'd pay tax on the amount we pay him this year.

Also, it?s too late to stretch his salary.  I believe that deadline is Sep 1.

That said, Springer is not an albatross, and the Celtics don?t have to move him, or anyone, to keep Walker next week and avoid the luxury tax.  They only have to dump someone by the deadline to reap the cap savings.  It is really February?s problem if they like Walker, not today?s.

If this is true, I really don?t understand why they waived Walker today.

Probably bc he?s not as good or useful as some people think he is. Boston is something like his 4th team in 6 years. Prrhaps the open roster spot has more value.

1) Walker is a spark plug scorer, not very efficient. Below the league average in TS%. Good as a spot up shooter which could be useful but we have lots of guards who are good at that. Inconsistent creating shots for himself, more so in creating for others. He would probably be the 2nd worst defender on the team, ahead of Schierman. Does this fit the team identity?

2) Not sure he fills much of a team need. The open roster spot gives the team flexibility to add a player at a later date. Perhaps there are some injuries or a player developing in the farm system breaks out that would be a better fit. Maybe, they feel he will be available later if no other needs arise.

Maybe the cynics are right and it?s just penny pinching. But I?m sure the team did some cost analysis and decided the value wasn?t there for the talent, team needs and future considerations. Money is a factor but I doubt it?s the overriding one.
It's just preseason but JD Davidson put up better numbers than Walker did. For all the talk about Springer, I wouldn't be surprised if Brad looked at Davidson as someone who can give basically what you'd get from Walker but he's already under contract.
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Re: Celtics Regular Season News 2024-25
« Reply #80 on: October 23, 2024, 05:49:17 PM »

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Cameron Tabatabaie: Sam Hauser is questionable with back pain for Thursday?s game in Washington, per Celtics Porzingis remains out. via Twitter CTabatabaie
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Re: Celtics Regular Season News 2024-25
« Reply #81 on: October 25, 2024, 02:59:14 PM »

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The numbers below are +/- per 100 possessions so roughly the same as net rating.  It is interesting how these are so clearly stratified into tiers.

Starters
Derrick White          46.2
Al Horford               37.9
Jaylen Brown           36.3
Jrue Holiday            34.3
Jayson Tatum          32.8

Bench   
Luke Kornet            25.0
Xavier Tillman         18.8
Payton Pritchard      16.8
Sam Hauser            13.3
Neemias Queta         7.5

Scrubs   
Jordan Walsh          -57.6
Baylor Scheierman  -58.8
JD Davison             -58.8
Jaden Springer        -66.7
Drew Peterson        -87.5

Re: Celtics Regular Season News 2024-25
« Reply #82 on: October 26, 2024, 08:20:58 AM »

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The numbers below are +/- per 100 possessions so roughly the same as net rating.  It is interesting how these are so clearly stratified into tiers.

Starters
Derrick White          46.2
Al Horford               37.9
Jaylen Brown           36.3
Jrue Holiday            34.3
Jayson Tatum          32.8

Bench   
Luke Kornet            25.0
Xavier Tillman         18.8
Payton Pritchard      16.8
Sam Hauser            13.3
Neemias Queta         7.5

Scrubs   
Jordan Walsh          -57.6
Baylor Scheierman  -58.8
JD Davison             -58.8
Jaden Springer        -66.7
Drew Peterson        -87.5

Come on Scrubs! Pick it up!

Even though we have a championship roster, I still love the hope of developing talent.

Re: Celtics Regular Season News 2024-25
« Reply #83 on: October 26, 2024, 12:04:12 PM »

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John Karalis: Sam Hauser remains out vs. Detroit with low back soreness. via Twitter John_Karalis
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« Reply #84 on: October 26, 2024, 12:50:28 PM »

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John Karalis: Sam Hauser remains out vs. Detroit with low back soreness. via Twitter John_Karalis

While they play different positions, Sam's minutes should go to X and Q...they need more time with the starters.
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Re: Celtics Regular Season News 2024-25
« Reply #85 on: October 28, 2024, 07:06:33 PM »

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Too bad. Would have been a good backup for when guys miss time. Like Sam, who is out again tonight. Now the starters are going to have to play more minutes since Springer, Davison and Scheierman are unplayable.

John Karalis: Lonnie Walker, I?m told, made the choice not to join the Maine Celtics after he was cut. Exhibit 10 guys have to sign on for the assignment, and Walker chose to pursue other opportunities. via Twitter John_Karalis
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« Reply #86 on: October 28, 2024, 08:20:12 PM »

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Re: Celtics Regular Season News 2024-25
« Reply #87 on: October 28, 2024, 09:55:36 PM »

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Re: Celtics Regular Season News 2024-25
« Reply #88 on: October 29, 2024, 12:04:28 AM »

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https://www.si.com/nba/celtics/top-stories/two-reasons-suggesting-lonnie-walker-rejoins-celtics

This is interesting.

Hope so. The C?s really don?t have much depth right now. With Hauser out, Pritchard is the only spark off the bench offensively. He had 28 of the 30pts scored by the reserves tonight.  :blank:
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Re: Celtics Regular Season News 2024-25
« Reply #89 on: October 29, 2024, 10:29:21 AM »

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Still like to see Lonnie Walker on this team
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