JB and the Olympics

[Yuckabuck33]

Haven't read the whole thread, buy my 0.02.
JB is right about NIKE. They had Kawhi, and all of sudden need a role player instead? BS.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Haven't read the whole thread, buy my 0.02.
JB is right about NIKE. They had Kawhi, and all of sudden need a role player instead? BS.

Yup. It's not like Kawhi is content being a role player out there. He always controls the ball.

[Phantom255x]

Haven't read the whole thread, buy my 0.02.
JB is right about NIKE. They had Kawhi, and all of sudden need a role player instead? BS.

Yup. It's not like Kawhi is content being a role player out there. He always controls the ball.

Kyrie has also been passed over.

I love White obviously but tbh it should be Jaylen, Kyrie or Lillard/Mitchell on the team.

[ozgod]

Grant Hill explained the thought process that went into Team USA selection.

In an interview with Andscape's Marc J. Spears, Hill shared a great quote when asked about the challenges of assembling a 12-man roster from such a strong talent pool.

"It's like a puzzle, man," Hill told Spears. "You got to put the pieces together that fit and that complement. And so, as a result, you are leaving guys off who are really good and guys that I?m a fan of.

"... But a coach once told me that a team is like a piano recital. You got piano movers, You got piano tuners, and you got piano players. And you need all three to put on a good show. You can?t have all piano players. And so that may fit this or may not, but you need roles and you need guys that fit."

https://www.nbcsportsboston.com/nba/boston-celtics/grant-hill-derrick-white-team-usa-olympics-roster/628345/

Hill heaped praise on White?s fit.

?One of the many things that I really love about Derrick, and particularly with this team, is I don't feel like his role changes much with our team, from what he does with the Celtics,? said Hill. ?He plays alongside two incredibly great young players in Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum.

?This setting is hard when you come in and you have to sort of -- you're the center of your universe and now you have to establish a role and might be different than what you have to do with your team. And so to have someone who can come in and play off of guys, be complementary to some others, but then also stand out and be a dynamite defensive player and knock down shots -- just impact winning.?

https://sports.yahoo.com/grant-hill-explains-why-team-025257908.html

Reading between the lines they probably thought that Jaylen would have wanted to be one of "the guys". Like if you look at this year's ASG, he took the 2nd most shots of anyone on the East team:



Then you look at 2023 ASG, he took the most shots and had the most points on Team LeBum:



I won't link to the 2021 ASG but it was the same deal. Looks like they didn't plan to play Kawhi a lot due to his injury anyway, and when he withdrew they wanted a glue guy and they didn't think Jaylen could play the role of a glue guy. That's my guess on what happened.

Mind you I think they should have picked him ahead of Booker. Now if KD has to withdraw, I think that Jaylen should definitely be a more solid fit if they want to replace a guy that's going to be a cornerstone with another cornerstone. I would definitely be thinking something sketchy's going on if he doesn't get picked in that instance.

[moiso]

Haven't read the whole thread, buy my 0.02.
JB is right about NIKE. They had Kawhi, and all of sudden need a role player instead? BS.

Yup. It's not like Kawhi is content being a role player out there. He always controls the ball.

Kyrie has also been passed over.

I love White obviously but tbh it should be Jaylen, Kyrie or Lillard/Mitchell on the team.

I think White is a better fit than Kyrie/Lillard.  We don't need little offense only players on this team.  Jaylen is the guy that it should have been.

[blink]

Grant Hill explained the thought process that went into Team USA selection.

In an interview with Andscape's Marc J. Spears, Hill shared a great quote when asked about the challenges of assembling a 12-man roster from such a strong talent pool.

"It's like a puzzle, man," Hill told Spears. "You got to put the pieces together that fit and that complement. And so, as a result, you are leaving guys off who are really good and guys that I?m a fan of.

"... But a coach once told me that a team is like a piano recital. You got piano movers, You got piano tuners, and you got piano players. And you need all three to put on a good show. You can?t have all piano players. And so that may fit this or may not, but you need roles and you need guys that fit."

https://www.nbcsportsboston.com/nba/boston-celtics/grant-hill-derrick-white-team-usa-olympics-roster/628345/

Hill heaped praise on White?s fit.

?One of the many things that I really love about Derrick, and particularly with this team, is I don't feel like his role changes much with our team, from what he does with the Celtics,? said Hill. ?He plays alongside two incredibly great young players in Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum.

?This setting is hard when you come in and you have to sort of -- you're the center of your universe and now you have to establish a role and might be different than what you have to do with your team. And so to have someone who can come in and play off of guys, be complementary to some others, but then also stand out and be a dynamite defensive player and knock down shots -- just impact winning.?

https://sports.yahoo.com/grant-hill-explains-why-team-025257908.html

Reading between the lines they probably thought that Jaylen would have wanted to be one of "the guys". Like if you look at this year's ASG, he took the 2nd most shots of anyone on the East team:



Then you look at 2023 ASG, he took the most shots and had the most points on Team LeBum:



I won't link to the 2021 ASG but it was the same deal. Looks like they didn't plan to play Kawhi a lot due to his injury anyway, and when he withdrew they wanted a glue guy and they didn't think Jaylen could play the role of a glue guy. That's my guess on what happened.

Mind you I think they should have picked him ahead of Booker. Now if KD has to withdraw, I think that Jaylen should definitely be a more solid fit if they want to replace a guy that's going to be a cornerstone with another cornerstone. I would definitely be thinking something sketchy's going on if he doesn't get picked in that instance.

I think the bridge is probably burnt in both directions for that to happen.   Unfortunately I don't think Team USA is going to be reaching out to JB if KD can't go.   I would be happy to be wrong though.

[Yuckabuck33]

Grant Hill explained the thought process that went into Team USA selection.

In an interview with Andscape's Marc J. Spears, Hill shared a great quote when asked about the challenges of assembling a 12-man roster from such a strong talent pool.

"It's like a puzzle, man," Hill told Spears. "You got to put the pieces together that fit and that complement. And so, as a result, you are leaving guys off who are really good and guys that I?m a fan of.

"... But a coach once told me that a team is like a piano recital. You got piano movers, You got piano tuners, and you got piano players. And you need all three to put on a good show. You can?t have all piano players. And so that may fit this or may not, but you need roles and you need guys that fit."

https://www.nbcsportsboston.com/nba/boston-celtics/grant-hill-derrick-white-team-usa-olympics-roster/628345/

Hill heaped praise on White?s fit.

?One of the many things that I really love about Derrick, and particularly with this team, is I don't feel like his role changes much with our team, from what he does with the Celtics,? said Hill. ?He plays alongside two incredibly great young players in Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum.

?This setting is hard when you come in and you have to sort of -- you're the center of your universe and now you have to establish a role and might be different than what you have to do with your team. And so to have someone who can come in and play off of guys, be complementary to some others, but then also stand out and be a dynamite defensive player and knock down shots -- just impact winning.?

https://sports.yahoo.com/grant-hill-explains-why-team-025257908.html

Reading between the lines they probably thought that Jaylen would have wanted to be one of "the guys". Like if you look at this year's ASG, he took the 2nd most shots of anyone on the East team:



Then you look at 2023 ASG, he took the most shots and had the most points on Team LeBum:



I won't link to the 2021 ASG but it was the same deal. Looks like they didn't plan to play Kawhi a lot due to his injury anyway, and when he withdrew they wanted a glue guy and they didn't think Jaylen could play the role of a glue guy. That's my guess on what happened.

Mind you I think they should have picked him ahead of Booker. Now if KD has to withdraw, I think that Jaylen should definitely be a more solid fit if they want to replace a guy that's going to be a cornerstone with another cornerstone. I would definitely be thinking something sketchy's going on if he doesn't get picked in that instance.

Then Grant Hill needs to explain the Kawhi selection.  Kawhi's role wasn't going to change? If DW was replacing some other role player like Joe Ingles or something,  I could see it. But when you're replacing Kawhi and say you need a role player, I call BS. Unless Grant says, "I never wanted Kawhi on the team. I wanted someone more like DW.

[Surferdad]

Grant Hill explained the thought process that went into Team USA selection.

In an interview with Andscape's Marc J. Spears, Hill shared a great quote when asked about the challenges of assembling a 12-man roster from such a strong talent pool.

"It's like a puzzle, man," Hill told Spears. "You got to put the pieces together that fit and that complement. And so, as a result, you are leaving guys off who are really good and guys that I?m a fan of.

"... But a coach once told me that a team is like a piano recital. You got piano movers, You got piano tuners, and you got piano players. And you need all three to put on a good show. You can?t have all piano players. And so that may fit this or may not, but you need roles and you need guys that fit."

https://www.nbcsportsboston.com/nba/boston-celtics/grant-hill-derrick-white-team-usa-olympics-roster/628345/

Hill heaped praise on White?s fit.

?One of the many things that I really love about Derrick, and particularly with this team, is I don't feel like his role changes much with our team, from what he does with the Celtics,? said Hill. ?He plays alongside two incredibly great young players in Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum.

?This setting is hard when you come in and you have to sort of -- you're the center of your universe and now you have to establish a role and might be different than what you have to do with your team. And so to have someone who can come in and play off of guys, be complementary to some others, but then also stand out and be a dynamite defensive player and knock down shots -- just impact winning.?

https://sports.yahoo.com/grant-hill-explains-why-team-025257908.html

Reading between the lines they probably thought that Jaylen would have wanted to be one of "the guys". Like if you look at this year's ASG, he took the 2nd most shots of anyone on the East team:



Then you look at 2023 ASG, he took the most shots and had the most points on Team LeBum:



I won't link to the 2021 ASG but it was the same deal. Looks like they didn't plan to play Kawhi a lot due to his injury anyway, and when he withdrew they wanted a glue guy and they didn't think Jaylen could play the role of a glue guy. That's my guess on what happened.

Mind you I think they should have picked him ahead of Booker. Now if KD has to withdraw, I think that Jaylen should definitely be a more solid fit if they want to replace a guy that's going to be a cornerstone with another cornerstone. I would definitely be thinking something sketchy's going on if he doesn't get picked in that instance.

Then Grant Hill needs to explain the Kawhi selection.  Kawhi's role wasn't going to change? If DW was replacing some other role player like Joe Ingles or something,  I could see it. But when you're replacing Kawhi and say you need a role player, I call BS. Unless Grant says, "I never wanted Kawhi on the team. I wanted someone more like DW.

In listening to Gran?t comments, seems like he?s trying so hard to be diplomatic that he doesn?t explain anything.

[green_bballers13]

DWhite is a better pick. Jaylen would want to be the best player on Team USA. White isn't going to try to do so.

[Roy H.]

DWhite is a better pick. Jaylen would want to be the best player on Team USA. White isn't going to try to do so.

I don't know if that is fair to JB.  He didn't force the issues of shots this season, deferring to Tatum and working to get KP and others involved.

That's not to say that White isn't a great fit on that team. He is. I just don't think Jaylen would have come onto the team and acted like he was the number one option.

[ozgod]

Jaylen said that he and Derrick are good and he called him after his cryptic posts just in case Derrick couldn't figure out what they meant.

Boston Celtics star Jaylen Brown said he called teammate Derrick White to make sure there was no "confusion" after Brown was critical of USA Basketball for not offering him a spot on Team USA.

Brown, named Finals MVP for the champion Celtics last month, was left off the original roster for the national team and was again passed over as a potential replacement for Kawhi Leonard in favor of White.

"I called Derrick right away," Brown told reporters Monday during the Celtics' summer league game vs. the Lakers in Las Vegas. "Just to make sure there's no confusion, my love for you and all of that. He knew that, and he did. You don't always gotta make everything public. Me and D-White are good."

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40572373/jaylen-brown-derrick-white-good-brown-team-usa-jabs

[michigan adam]

Haven't read the whole thread, buy my 0.02.
JB is right about NIKE. They had Kawhi, and all of sudden need a role player instead? BS.

Yup. It's not like Kawhi is content being a role player out there. He always controls the ball.

Kyrie has also been passed over.

I love White obviously but tbh it should be Jaylen, Kyrie or Lillard/Mitchell on the team.

So many people don't care about defense.  Kyrie and Lillard are two of the worst defenders in the league.  Very flawed players.  Both are very high usuage players too.  Without the ball in their hands they are useless.  Can't have 5 of those players on the floor.  Really any more than 2 makes for really bad flow...

[Roy H.]

Jaylen said that he and Derrick are good and he called him after his cryptic posts just in case Derrick couldn't figure out what they meant.

Boston Celtics star Jaylen Brown said he called teammate Derrick White to make sure there was no "confusion" after Brown was critical of USA Basketball for not offering him a spot on Team USA.

Brown, named Finals MVP for the champion Celtics last month, was left off the original roster for the national team and was again passed over as a potential replacement for Kawhi Leonard in favor of White.

"I called Derrick right away," Brown told reporters Monday during the Celtics' summer league game vs. the Lakers in Las Vegas. "Just to make sure there's no confusion, my love for you and all of that. He knew that, and he did. You don't always gotta make everything public. Me and D-White are good."

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40572373/jaylen-brown-derrick-white-good-brown-team-usa-jabs

So long as he's communicating to his teammates and they're with him, it's all good. 

[Vermont Green]

Jaylen said that he and Derrick are good and he called him after his cryptic posts just in case Derrick couldn't figure out what they meant.

Boston Celtics star Jaylen Brown said he called teammate Derrick White to make sure there was no "confusion" after Brown was critical of USA Basketball for not offering him a spot on Team USA.

Brown, named Finals MVP for the champion Celtics last month, was left off the original roster for the national team and was again passed over as a potential replacement for Kawhi Leonard in favor of White.

"I called Derrick right away," Brown told reporters Monday during the Celtics' summer league game vs. the Lakers in Las Vegas. "Just to make sure there's no confusion, my love for you and all of that. He knew that, and he did. You don't always gotta make everything public. Me and D-White are good."

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40572373/jaylen-brown-derrick-white-good-brown-team-usa-jabs

So long as he's communicating to his teammates and they're with him, it's all good.

I am happy to see this come out.  I never was that worried about a rift between White and Brown, but obviously it is good to see this in any case.  I am still a little worried about Tatum and Brown though.  I am worried that Tatum could have some trouble with Brown getting equal or more limelight.  Hopefully it just motivates him to play better.  I think Tatum is the better player.  I actually think Brown will be aware of this and careful about the relationship.

[Donoghus]

Jaylen said that he and Derrick are good and he called him after his cryptic posts just in case Derrick couldn't figure out what they meant.

Boston Celtics star Jaylen Brown said he called teammate Derrick White to make sure there was no "confusion" after Brown was critical of USA Basketball for not offering him a spot on Team USA.

Brown, named Finals MVP for the champion Celtics last month, was left off the original roster for the national team and was again passed over as a potential replacement for Kawhi Leonard in favor of White.

"I called Derrick right away," Brown told reporters Monday during the Celtics' summer league game vs. the Lakers in Las Vegas. "Just to make sure there's no confusion, my love for you and all of that. He knew that, and he did. You don't always gotta make everything public. Me and D-White are good."

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40572373/jaylen-brown-derrick-white-good-brown-team-usa-jabs

So long as he's communicating to his teammates and they're with him, it's all good.

I am happy to see this come out.  I never was that worried about a rift between White and Brown, but obviously it is good to see this in any case.  I am still a little worried about Tatum and Brown though.  I am worried that Tatum could have some trouble with Brown getting equal or more limelight.  Hopefully it just motivates him to play better.  I think Tatum is the better player.  I actually think Brown will be aware of this and careful about the relationship.

Tatum's gonna be fine.  He's got the new contract under him now,  he got the "no title" moniker removed from his back, & he's about to get a boatload of spotlight playing in the Olympics. 

They've been teammates for years and, by non hot take accounts, get along fine.  I think last season just put a lot of things to rest and I really have no concern over the Tatum/Brown relationship