Celtics 2024 Playoff Run Thread

[Roy H.]

Porzingis probably has more value than Parrish, probably closer to McHale (although McHale was a much better overall defender than Porzingis).

I digress, but I think Porzingis is Parish in this analogy.  McHale was the clear #2 (like Brown) and Parish was the really important #3.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

if you want to play that game-The Celts hang another banner if Perk was healthy and played in game seven against the lakers during the Kevin Garnett era.

And that would have been Banner 19, we would have won 18 in 2009 if KG hadn't gotten injured

Yup.  I always thought so.  That [dang] Utah game.

I think Boston would've won four straight—2008-11—if KG and Perk hadn't got hurt.

[kraidstar]

Yea if KG didn’t get hurt in year 2 & Perkins in the Finals (refs didn’t help either) we would win 3 in a row

I'm not so sure Boston beats Cleveland in 09.  In 08 it was a tough 7 game series and the Cavs got better and we're the top seed in 09.  They didn't match up nearly as well with Dwight and the Magic as they did with the C's.  Boston would have beaten Orlando and LA with a non-injured KG, I'm just not so sure about the Cavs. 

In 10, I have a hard time thinking Perkins would have made a difference.  Sheed played very well with increased minutes in game 7 and Boston lost that game on offense, especially PP and Ray who combined for an awful 8 of 29

Celtics with healthy Perk wouldn't lose b2b at Lakers in Game 6 and 7. As soon as he went down in Game 6, we got blown out.

Just wished the Celtics took care of business in Game 3 so Boston didn't have to fly back to LA again in the Finals lol

Yeah Perk definitely puts us over the top. In G7 we literally just needed a couple more rebounds. Almost all the laker points came from putbacks and FTs.
 Rasheed was an absolute slug that game on the glass, and extra fresh legs by Perk in the 4th and we get some key stops.

No way doesn't grab a few boards/stops and get some fast breaks going for the  C's win.

[kraidstar]

Game 7 in 2010 still haunts me. The toughest Celtics loss ever. Kobe couldn't make anything but paraded to the FT over and over.

Yep, and Artest hitting some dagger threes while nobody on the Celtics could make a shot and Sheed subbed himself out of the game from exhaustion.

I was only 11 years old at the time, and I remember being so annoyed that we kept missing shots in the 2nd half lol. We were also up double digits at one point and I thought we had it in the bag. Silly me. I was too young at the time to really focus on or acknowledge the refs also being crooked, but at the same time I think having the 2008 championship not long before eased the pain a tiny bit for me at the time given my age.

Gasol drove me bananas in the 4th

For me, it was the refs.  The refs allowed physical play by both teams through three quarters.  Then, in the fourth, they started calling soft fouls.  21 (!!!) free throws in one decisive quarter.  The league average that year was 24.5 FTAs per game.  The Lakers almost reached that in one quarter.

People talk about the Kings being screwed by the refs, and they were.  But, I've never seen the refs put their thumb on the scale more than in that 4th quarter.

They had their thumb on the scale in G3 too. C's came out very strong and then the refs got KG, Rondo, and PP in foul trouble with some abysmal calls. We were basically hsmstrung all game, but because the sketchy stuff happened early nobody remembers

As bad as the reffing can be now it doesn't hold a candle to what was going on under David Stern. That man did so much for the Lakers franchise, among others.

[Donoghus]

Yea if KG didn’t get hurt in year 2 & Perkins in the Finals (refs didn’t help either) we would win 3 in a row

I'm not so sure Boston beats Cleveland in 09.  In 08 it was a tough 7 game series and the Cavs got better and we're the top seed in 09.  They didn't match up nearly as well with Dwight and the Magic as they did with the C's.  Boston would have beaten Orlando and LA with a non-injured KG, I'm just not so sure about the Cavs. 

In 10, I have a hard time thinking Perkins would have made a difference.  Sheed played very well with increased minutes in game 7 and Boston lost that game on offense, especially PP and Ray who combined for an awful 8 of 29

Celtics with healthy Perk wouldn't lose b2b at Lakers in Game 6 and 7. As soon as he went down in Game 6, we got blown out.

Just wished the Celtics took care of business in Game 3 so Boston didn't have to fly back to LA again in the Finals lol

Yeah Perk definitely puts us over the top. In G7 we literally just needed a couple more rebounds. Almost all the laker points came from putbacks and FTs.
 Rasheed was an absolute slug that game on the glass, and extra fresh legs by Perk in the 4th and we get some key stops.

No way doesn't grab a few boards/stops and get some fast breaks going for the  C's win.

Sheed's lack of conditioning that season still irks me to this day.

[Moranis]

Yea if KG didn’t get hurt in year 2 & Perkins in the Finals (refs didn’t help either) we would win 3 in a row

I'm not so sure Boston beats Cleveland in 09.  In 08 it was a tough 7 game series and the Cavs got better and we're the top seed in 09.  They didn't match up nearly as well with Dwight and the Magic as they did with the C's.  Boston would have beaten Orlando and LA with a non-injured KG, I'm just not so sure about the Cavs. 

In 10, I have a hard time thinking Perkins would have made a difference.  Sheed played very well with increased minutes in game 7 and Boston lost that game on offense, especially PP and Ray who combined for an awful 8 of 29

Celtics with healthy Perk wouldn't lose b2b at Lakers in Game 6 and 7. As soon as he went down in Game 6, we got blown out.

Just wished the Celtics took care of business in Game 3 so Boston didn't have to fly back to LA again in the Finals lol

We were down 6 when Perk went out 6 minutes into the game.  Boston wasn't going to win Game 6 that year. The Lakers came to play.

[RMO]

Yea if KG didn’t get hurt in year 2 & Perkins in the Finals (refs didn’t help either) we would win 3 in a row

I'm not so sure Boston beats Cleveland in 09.  In 08 it was a tough 7 game series and the Cavs got better and we're the top seed in 09.  They didn't match up nearly as well with Dwight and the Magic as they did with the C's.  Boston would have beaten Orlando and LA with a non-injured KG, I'm just not so sure about the Cavs. 

In 10, I have a hard time thinking Perkins would have made a difference.  Sheed played very well with increased minutes in game 7 and Boston lost that game on offense, especially PP and Ray who combined for an awful 8 of 29

Celtics with healthy Perk wouldn't lose b2b at Lakers in Game 6 and 7. As soon as he went down in Game 6, we got blown out.

Just wished the Celtics took care of business in Game 3 so Boston didn't have to fly back to LA again in the Finals lol

We were down 6 when Perk went out 6 minutes into the game.  Boston wasn't going to win Game 6 that year. The Lakers came to play.

I realize that the three point firepower wasn't quite what it is today in 2010 but was a six point deficit midway through the first period really that insurmountable?

That being said, I do have a vague recollection that the Celtics effort was pretty miserable even before Perk went down so based off that I'd probably agree that they weren't winning that one.

[Moranis]

Yea if KG didn’t get hurt in year 2 & Perkins in the Finals (refs didn’t help either) we would win 3 in a row

I'm not so sure Boston beats Cleveland in 09.  In 08 it was a tough 7 game series and the Cavs got better and we're the top seed in 09.  They didn't match up nearly as well with Dwight and the Magic as they did with the C's.  Boston would have beaten Orlando and LA with a non-injured KG, I'm just not so sure about the Cavs. 

In 10, I have a hard time thinking Perkins would have made a difference.  Sheed played very well with increased minutes in game 7 and Boston lost that game on offense, especially PP and Ray who combined for an awful 8 of 29

Celtics with healthy Perk wouldn't lose b2b at Lakers in Game 6 and 7. As soon as he went down in Game 6, we got blown out.

Just wished the Celtics took care of business in Game 3 so Boston didn't have to fly back to LA again in the Finals lol

Yeah Perk definitely puts us over the top. In G7 we literally just needed a couple more rebounds. Almost all the laker points came from putbacks and FTs.
 Rasheed was an absolute slug that game on the glass, and extra fresh legs by Perk in the 4th and we get some key stops.

No way doesn't grab a few boards/stops and get some fast breaks going for the  C's win.

Sheed was great through 3 quarters though.  Maybe with Perk and his terrible offense, the Lakers are up big entering the 4th quarter.  Through 5 games, Perk was +1 in the series (and Boston was +2).  It isn't like the team was great with him and bad without him.  He was fine for what he was, but Boston lost that game on offense

[Moranis]

Yea if KG didn’t get hurt in year 2 & Perkins in the Finals (refs didn’t help either) we would win 3 in a row

I'm not so sure Boston beats Cleveland in 09.  In 08 it was a tough 7 game series and the Cavs got better and we're the top seed in 09.  They didn't match up nearly as well with Dwight and the Magic as they did with the C's.  Boston would have beaten Orlando and LA with a non-injured KG, I'm just not so sure about the Cavs. 

In 10, I have a hard time thinking Perkins would have made a difference.  Sheed played very well with increased minutes in game 7 and Boston lost that game on offense, especially PP and Ray who combined for an awful 8 of 29

Celtics with healthy Perk wouldn't lose b2b at Lakers in Game 6 and 7. As soon as he went down in Game 6, we got blown out.

Just wished the Celtics took care of business in Game 3 so Boston didn't have to fly back to LA again in the Finals lol

We were down 6 when Perk went out 6 minutes into the game.  Boston wasn't going to win Game 6 that year. The Lakers came to play.

I realize that the three point firepower wasn't quite what it is today in 2010 but was a six point deficit midway through the first period really that insurmountable?

That being said, I do have a vague recollection that the Celtics effort was pretty miserable even before Perk went down so based off that I'd probably agree that they weren't winning that one.

never said it was insurmountable, they just weren't going to win that game.  Just a vibe and a feeling. I mean Boston lost by 22 points and only scored 67.  That was simply the Lakers night.

[Roy H.]

Yea if KG didn’t get hurt in year 2 & Perkins in the Finals (refs didn’t help either) we would win 3 in a row

I'm not so sure Boston beats Cleveland in 09.  In 08 it was a tough 7 game series and the Cavs got better and we're the top seed in 09.  They didn't match up nearly as well with Dwight and the Magic as they did with the C's.  Boston would have beaten Orlando and LA with a non-injured KG, I'm just not so sure about the Cavs. 

In 10, I have a hard time thinking Perkins would have made a difference.  Sheed played very well with increased minutes in game 7 and Boston lost that game on offense, especially PP and Ray who combined for an awful 8 of 29

Celtics with healthy Perk wouldn't lose b2b at Lakers in Game 6 and 7. As soon as he went down in Game 6, we got blown out.

Just wished the Celtics took care of business in Game 3 so Boston didn't have to fly back to LA again in the Finals lol

Yeah Perk definitely puts us over the top. In G7 we literally just needed a couple more rebounds. Almost all the laker points came from putbacks and FTs.
 Rasheed was an absolute slug that game on the glass, and extra fresh legs by Perk in the 4th and we get some key stops.

No way doesn't grab a few boards/stops and get some fast breaks going for the  C's win.

Sheed was great through 3 quarters though.  Maybe with Perk and his terrible offense, the Lakers are up big entering the 4th quarter.  Through 5 games, Perk was +1 in the series (and Boston was +2).  It isn't like the team was great with him and bad without him.  He was fine for what he was, but Boston lost that game on offense

You never know if having Perk available allows Rasheed to be fresher in the 4th, or if Perk stops a Gasol bucket or two.  Glen Davis had three PFs in the fourth quarter alone.  Maybe with Perk or a more rested Rasheed in there, that doesn't happen.

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

Yea if KG didn’t get hurt in year 2 & Perkins in the Finals (refs didn’t help either) we would win 3 in a row

I'm not so sure Boston beats Cleveland in 09.  In 08 it was a tough 7 game series and the Cavs got better and we're the top seed in 09.  They didn't match up nearly as well with Dwight and the Magic as they did with the C's.  Boston would have beaten Orlando and LA with a non-injured KG, I'm just not so sure about the Cavs. 

In 10, I have a hard time thinking Perkins would have made a difference.  Sheed played very well with increased minutes in game 7 and Boston lost that game on offense, especially PP and Ray who combined for an awful 8 of 29

Celtics with healthy Perk wouldn't lose b2b at Lakers in Game 6 and 7. As soon as he went down in Game 6, we got blown out.

Just wished the Celtics took care of business in Game 3 so Boston didn't have to fly back to LA again in the Finals lol

Yeah Perk definitely puts us over the top. In G7 we literally just needed a couple more rebounds. Almost all the laker points came from putbacks and FTs.
 Rasheed was an absolute slug that game on the glass, and extra fresh legs by Perk in the 4th and we get some key stops.

No way doesn't grab a few boards/stops and get some fast breaks going for the  C's win.

that game still gives me PTSD. a title was in our hands. yes, even without perk we were up 12 in the 3rd quarter and blew it. yes, the lakers killed us with free throws at the end if i recall to win it. thanks refs. we still coulda won it like you said had we gotten some boards and stops and a chance to run the other way. lakers had no business winning  >:(that.

i just went back through the play by play again. i'm absolutely sick. the free throws in the 4th were disgusting. we lost the lead for good at around the 5 minute mark of the 4th. 

[Neurotic Guy]

Yea if KG didn’t get hurt in year 2 & Perkins in the Finals (refs didn’t help either) we would win 3 in a row

I'm not so sure Boston beats Cleveland in 09.  In 08 it was a tough 7 game series and the Cavs got better and we're the top seed in 09.  They didn't match up nearly as well with Dwight and the Magic as they did with the C's.  Boston would have beaten Orlando and LA with a non-injured KG, I'm just not so sure about the Cavs. 

In 10, I have a hard time thinking Perkins would have made a difference.  Sheed played very well with increased minutes in game 7 and Boston lost that game on offense, especially PP and Ray who combined for an awful 8 of 29

Celtics with healthy Perk wouldn't lose b2b at Lakers in Game 6 and 7. As soon as he went down in Game 6, we got blown out.

Just wished the Celtics took care of business in Game 3 so Boston didn't have to fly back to LA again in the Finals lol

Yeah Perk definitely puts us over the top. In G7 we literally just needed a couple more rebounds. Almost all the laker points came from putbacks and FTs.
 Rasheed was an absolute slug that game on the glass, and extra fresh legs by Perk in the 4th and we get some key stops.

No way doesn't grab a few boards/stops and get some fast breaks going for the  C's win.

that game still gives me PTSD. a title was in our hands. yes, even without perk we were up 12 in the 4th and blew it. yes, the lakers killed us with free throws at the end if i recall to win it. thanks refs. we still coulda won it like you said had we gotten some boards and stops and a chance to run the other way. lakers had no business winning  >:(that.

I’ve never rewatched the game as that, along with Pats SB 2007, are the most traumatic (‘87 celts was no picnic). But my lingering memory is of a desperate Rondo in the waning seconds - nailing a three and then almost, almost getting the ball away from Kobe -  knocking it away, but it bounced out of bounds.  Had the ball stayed in bounds the Cs would have had a chance to tie/win (?).  Hate thinking about it.

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

Yea if KG didn’t get hurt in year 2 & Perkins in the Finals (refs didn’t help either) we would win 3 in a row

I'm not so sure Boston beats Cleveland in 09.  In 08 it was a tough 7 game series and the Cavs got better and we're the top seed in 09.  They didn't match up nearly as well with Dwight and the Magic as they did with the C's.  Boston would have beaten Orlando and LA with a non-injured KG, I'm just not so sure about the Cavs. 

In 10, I have a hard time thinking Perkins would have made a difference.  Sheed played very well with increased minutes in game 7 and Boston lost that game on offense, especially PP and Ray who combined for an awful 8 of 29

Celtics with healthy Perk wouldn't lose b2b at Lakers in Game 6 and 7. As soon as he went down in Game 6, we got blown out.

Just wished the Celtics took care of business in Game 3 so Boston didn't have to fly back to LA again in the Finals lol

Yeah Perk definitely puts us over the top. In G7 we literally just needed a couple more rebounds. Almost all the laker points came from putbacks and FTs.
 Rasheed was an absolute slug that game on the glass, and extra fresh legs by Perk in the 4th and we get some key stops.

No way doesn't grab a few boards/stops and get some fast breaks going for the  C's win.

that game still gives me PTSD. a title was in our hands. yes, even without perk we were up 12 in the 4th and blew it. yes, the lakers killed us with free throws at the end if i recall to win it. thanks refs. we still coulda won it like you said had we gotten some boards and stops and a chance to run the other way. lakers had no business winning  >:(that.

I’ve never rewatched the game as that, along with Pats SB 2007, are the most traumatic (‘87 celts was no picnic). But my lingering memory is of a desperate Rondo in the waning seconds - nailing a three and then almost, almost getting the ball away from Kobe -  knocking it away, but it bounced out of bounds.  Had the ball stayed in bounds the Cs would have had a chance to tie/win (?).  Hate thinking about it.

i went to look at box scores because that game made me so angry i had basically lost memory of some of it and my brain had blocked it out due to the pain it caused me.

had to correct myself. our 12 point lead was in the 3rd not 4th. but i was right on the laker free throws giving the game to the lakers down the stretch in the 4th. absolutely appalling and disgusting. i remember watching that game slowly slip away and it was like being slowly disemboweled. with nobody there to save you. just after going back and looking at the play by play for each quarter there is no way i can go back and watch that game again without going nuts.  I was thinking it may be therapuetic and help heal. naw, it would only make it worse and confirm what we already knew. refs were on the take.

also we had no bench help in game 7. baby scored 6. no other help. SMH. doc ran them into the ground.

[kraidstar]

Yea if KG didn’t get hurt in year 2 & Perkins in the Finals (refs didn’t help either) we would win 3 in a row

I'm not so sure Boston beats Cleveland in 09.  In 08 it was a tough 7 game series and the Cavs got better and we're the top seed in 09.  They didn't match up nearly as well with Dwight and the Magic as they did with the C's.  Boston would have beaten Orlando and LA with a non-injured KG, I'm just not so sure about the Cavs. 

In 10, I have a hard time thinking Perkins would have made a difference.  Sheed played very well with increased minutes in game 7 and Boston lost that game on offense, especially PP and Ray who combined for an awful 8 of 29

Celtics with healthy Perk wouldn't lose b2b at Lakers in Game 6 and 7. As soon as he went down in Game 6, we got blown out.

Just wished the Celtics took care of business in Game 3 so Boston didn't have to fly back to LA again in the Finals lol

Yeah Perk definitely puts us over the top. In G7 we literally just needed a couple more rebounds. Almost all the laker points came from putbacks and FTs.
 Rasheed was an absolute slug that game on the glass, and extra fresh legs by Perk in the 4th and we get some key stops.

No way doesn't grab a few boards/stops and get some fast breaks going for the  C's win.

Sheed was great through 3 quarters though.  Maybe with Perk and his terrible offense, the Lakers are up big entering the 4th quarter.  Through 5 games, Perk was +1 in the series (and Boston was +2).  It isn't like the team was great with him and bad without him.  He was fine for what he was, but Boston lost that game on offense

Ah yes. Our lack of depth actually helped us! Good god man what a trash take

[Phantom255x]

Still one whole week to go