Jaylen Brown appreciation thread

[tonydelk]

Brown played a fantastic game.  8 assists and just 3 turnovers.  Not hunting shots and playing mostly off the ball.  Functioning as a high level #2. When he does that, he plays winning ball.  He doesn't play that way all that much, that is the issue.  That is why over the entire playoffs he has a -11.7 on/off differential per 100 (he was -14.3 before last night - it was a huge game for him).  It is why he has the lowest straight +- per 100 of the top 6 (Hauser is better as well).  When Brown plays like a #2 he is awesome, most of the time he plays like a #1 and he isn't good enough to be a #1. That is where the impact goes away.  Play stylistically more like last night, all of the time and this argument goes away because the numbers will reflect it.

Really not very interesting.  Watching the C's game after game, JB is a terrific player - has been for years.  This year he not only improved offensively, but played consistently solid defense and - especially over the course of the playoffs - demonstrated leadership.  JB helped turn this team from a weak-minded unserious team, to a team that is a game away from capturing a banner.  Steady.  Serious. Great.  Your stats convince me of absolutely nothing.

Dutifully playing the same song while the argumentative Titanic is sinking.

Yeah I don't get it.  People are just stubborn I guess.   Congrats to both JB and JT on a great game 3.  We need both of them.

+100  We have two superstars and two of the top 20 players in the NBA.  Enjoy it and stop caring about who is better. 

[boscel33]

There were very few of us, back in 2016 leading up to the draft and at the draft, who were wanting a JB pick at #3.  I know I was one of them and have supported him since. 

Then there was the group who wanted to trade him for Kawhi, yet we stuck together saying, he is a younger version of Kawhi.  Some of us posted stats to back up our arguments.

Then came the extension, nope not worth it the nay sayers stated.

Congrats Jaylen, you are a champ and a finals MVP!

[SCeltic34]

I always believed in JB.  Improved his game every year since he was drafted, and can still get better.  Worth every penny.

[green_bballers13]

Jaylen is the man. He has silenced the hate. Good job JB!

[celticinorlando]

JB was a different player this season...esp in the clutch. He worked hard to improve. His leadership was outstanding.

[cman88]

JB was a different player this season...esp in the clutch. He worked hard to improve. His leadership was outstanding.

yet i'm sure some will still hang onto this notion they cant play together, he doesn't effect winning and he should be traded....

Brown/Tatum are just entering their prime. It's easy to lose sight of that fact with how much success they have already had in the league.

[Roy H.]

I appreciate JB, the basketball player. The rapper, not so much:

https://twitter.com/OnThinlce/status/1826642726126764359/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1826642726126764359&currentTweetUser=OnThinlce

(Collaboration with A$AP Ferg, explicit lyrics)

[trickybilly]

Interesting note on Jaylen's year so far:

Career year for rebs, assists, TOs (in his recent high usage years), points (nearly), FT%

Career lows for 3pt%, FG%.

Feels like Jaylen is due for a hot shooting streak and will go supernova.

[Vermont Green]

Interesting note on Jaylen's year so far:

Career year for rebs, assists, TOs (in his recent high usage years), points (nearly), FT%

Career lows for 3pt%, FG%.

Feels like Jaylen is due for a hot shooting streak and will go supernova.

Brown is 29% from 3 so far, well below his career average of about 36% from 3.  Other than that though, isn't all the rest pretty much what you expect from him?  He will score, but not efficiently all the time.  He is going to have some TOs, that is nothing new.  His passing has improved, but his assist numbers have been pretty good for the last several seasons.  He is a good rebounder but all our guards have to be because we play so much 1 big.

Don't take this the wrong way, I love Brown, love his game.  I expect that his 3 point shooting should improve, should revert to his norm.  But I see him as in the top 20 range (which is great), I am not sure he shoots up significantly, say into the top 10 in the league.  The ball handling is still clunky, that is what holds him back.  If he asked me, I would tell him to dribble less and catch and shoot more.  If he doesn't have something right away, move the ball, don't try to dribble to create something, or at least do that less.  Otherwise, just keep doing what you are doing (the 3s will come).

[keevsnick]

Interesting note on Jaylen's year so far:

Career year for rebs, assists, TOs (in his recent high usage years), points (nearly), FT%

Career lows for 3pt%, FG%.

Feels like Jaylen is due for a hot shooting streak and will go supernova.

Brown is 29% from 3 so far, well below his career average of about 36% from 3. Other than that though, isn't all the rest pretty much what you expect from him? He will score, but not efficiently all the time.  He is going to have some TOs, that is nothing new.  His passing has improved, but his assist numbers have been pretty good for the last several seasons.  He is a good rebounder but all our guards have to be because we play so much 1 big.

Don't take this the wrong way, I love Brown, love his game.  I expect that his 3 point shooting should improve, should revert to his norm.  But I see him as in the top 20 range (which is great), I am not sure he shoots up significantly, say into the top 10 in the league.  The ball handling is still clunky, that is what holds him back.  If he asked me, I would tell him to dribble less and catch and shoot more.  If he doesn't have something right away, move the ball, don't try to dribble to create something, or at least do that less.  Otherwise, just keep doing what you are doing (the 3s will come).

His 2pnt% is 50% this year, which would be a career low. The last two years he was at 57.0% and 57.6%. He hasn't been below 53% since year 2, and 2 point percentage tends to be more stable than something like 3 point percentage.

So I think its pretty likely he'll see some positive regression to the mean in FG% both from 2 and 3.

If the increase in FTA/percentage keeps up and his shooting numbers revert back to more like last year year he'd be averaging 28 per game.

[Vermont Green]

Interesting note on Jaylen's year so far:

Career year for rebs, assists, TOs (in his recent high usage years), points (nearly), FT%

Career lows for 3pt%, FG%.

Feels like Jaylen is due for a hot shooting streak and will go supernova.

Brown is 29% from 3 so far, well below his career average of about 36% from 3. Other than that though, isn't all the rest pretty much what you expect from him? He will score, but not efficiently all the time.  He is going to have some TOs, that is nothing new.  His passing has improved, but his assist numbers have been pretty good for the last several seasons.  He is a good rebounder but all our guards have to be because we play so much 1 big.

Don't take this the wrong way, I love Brown, love his game.  I expect that his 3 point shooting should improve, should revert to his norm.  But I see him as in the top 20 range (which is great), I am not sure he shoots up significantly, say into the top 10 in the league.  The ball handling is still clunky, that is what holds him back.  If he asked me, I would tell him to dribble less and catch and shoot more.  If he doesn't have something right away, move the ball, don't try to dribble to create something, or at least do that less.  Otherwise, just keep doing what you are doing (the 3s will come).

His 2pnt% is 50% this year, which would be a career low. The last two years he was at 57.0% and 57.6%. He hasn't been below 53% since year 2, and 2 point percentage tends to be more stable than something like 3 point percentage.

So I think its pretty likely he'll see some positive regression to the mean in FG% both from 2 and 3.

If the increase in FTA/percentage keeps up and his shooting numbers revert back to more like last year year he'd be averaging 28 per game.

Yeah, his 2P% is down a little too, but the difference between 50% and 57% is one more make a game.  I am not sure he gets to 28 pts per game.  I would rather see him stay in the 24 pt range but do it more efficiently, with fewer turnovers.  He probably could score more if he focused on that, he is good enough, just not necessarily what the team needs or what I expect out of him.

[Surferdad]

Interesting note on Jaylen's year so far:

Career year for rebs, assists, TOs (in his recent high usage years), points (nearly), FT%

Career lows for 3pt%, FG%.

Feels like Jaylen is due for a hot shooting streak and will go supernova.

Brown is 29% from 3 so far, well below his career average of about 36% from 3. Other than that though, isn't all the rest pretty much what you expect from him? He will score, but not efficiently all the time.  He is going to have some TOs, that is nothing new.  His passing has improved, but his assist numbers have been pretty good for the last several seasons.  He is a good rebounder but all our guards have to be because we play so much 1 big.

Don't take this the wrong way, I love Brown, love his game.  I expect that his 3 point shooting should improve, should revert to his norm.  But I see him as in the top 20 range (which is great), I am not sure he shoots up significantly, say into the top 10 in the league.  The ball handling is still clunky, that is what holds him back.  If he asked me, I would tell him to dribble less and catch and shoot more.  If he doesn't have something right away, move the ball, don't try to dribble to create something, or at least do that less.  Otherwise, just keep doing what you are doing (the 3s will come).

His 2pnt% is 50% this year, which would be a career low. The last two years he was at 57.0% and 57.6%. He hasn't been below 53% since year 2, and 2 point percentage tends to be more stable than something like 3 point percentage.

So I think its pretty likely he'll see some positive regression to the mean in FG% both from 2 and 3.

If the increase in FTA/percentage keeps up and his shooting numbers revert back to more like last year year he'd be averaging 28 per game.

Yeah, his 2P% is down a little too, but the difference between 50% and 57% is one more make a game.  I am not sure he gets to 28 pts per game.  I would rather see him stay in the 24 pt range but do it more efficiently, with fewer turnovers.  He probably could score more if he focused on that, he is good enough, just not necessarily what the team needs or what I expect out of him.

JB has had to carry a greater scoring load this season with KP out, but that is about to change. He should end up in the 24 ppg range.

[Big333223]

One significant change this season: Brown is taking a career best 7 FTA's  per game (previous career high 5.1) and making a career best .777 at the line (previous career high .765). It'd be nice to see his FG% and 3P% get back to were it usually is but the FT's are nice.

[Who]

One significant change this season: Brown is taking a career best 7 FTA's  per game (previous career high 5.1) and making a career best .777 at the line (previous career high .765). It'd be nice to see his FG% and 3P% get back to were it usually is but the FT's are nice.

Yeah, I was saying in the game thread that Jaylen ranks top 10 in fouls drawn this season after ranking close to 50th last season.

Three of the guys ahead of him have barely played. Banchero, Zion and Embiid. 4,5,6 games for them. So Jaylen would be 7th if you take them out. The guys ahead of him are Giannis at #1, AD #4, Jokic #6, Durant #7, Morant #8, Brunson #9 and Jaylen #10.

Tatum a healthy #20. 5.2 fouls drawn. Jaylen is 5.8 fouls drawn.

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/misc?dir=A&sort=PFD

[Silas]

To all the haters....

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Jaylen Brown wins the Sports Illustrated's NBA Player of the Year Award. Recognizes accomplishments both on and off the court