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« Reply #3255 on: Today at 12:30:20 PM »

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If Hugo is playing another year of summer league, the organization still views him as a project player. I think the expectations that fans have for him this coming season is pie in the sky.

Jaylen played in summer league after his rookie season and then was an opening night starter.

Hugo averaged less than 4ppg last year and he is playing summer league again. If you think he is going to be a starter over White, George, or Pritchard, I will have what you are having.

Hugo was not even in the playoff rotation. He had several DNPs during the season.

If Hugo starts, it will probably look like this:

White
Hugo
George
Tatum
Queta

Pritchard is off the bench because that is where he has historically been most productive, not necessarily because he was "beat out" by anyone.  One of the random wings (HuBaWaHaHa) is likely to start at this point in my view (barring other roster changes).  It may well be Hauser carrying over from last season but it could be any of them, including Hugo (and it could be Pritchard).  I don't see summer league or not as having that much to do with it.  Summer league will be good for Hugo.  Glad he is going.  He has things to work on.  Who starts will be decided by preseason play, not summer league.

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If Hugo is playing another year of summer league, the organization still views him as a project player. I think the expectations that fans have for him this coming season is pie in the sky.

Yeah that's not really the way the summer league works. Generally, players at least play the first two years of their career.

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So George will wear 13, Conley will wear 44, and Robinson will wear 4.  Welcome guys!

13. Not a great number in Celtics lore

Is Delonte the only notable guy that wore it for multiple seasons?  Todd Day isn't notable, haha.

I miss Delonte, and wish him the best.  His story is one of the saddest in Celtics history.

Todd Day is one of my all time hated Celtics.  The interesting thing is that no one wore that number for nearly 40 years until Charles Smith (again, this is a bad Celtics number to have) grabbed it in 1990.  I did like Mike James, though.

Smith, Day, Fab Melo, James Young, Marcus Morris, Tristan Thompson, Enes...

Ugh.

Time for PG13 to play so well that it gets retired!

... after playing her until he's 42!
I'M THE SILVERBACK GORILLA IN THIS MOTHER... AND DON'T NONE OF YA'LL EVER FORGET IT!

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« Reply #3258 on: Today at 12:42:08 PM »

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If Hugo is playing another year of summer league, the organization still views him as a project player. I think the expectations that fans have for him this coming season is pie in the sky.

Yeah that's not really the way the summer league works. Generally, players at least play the first two years of their career.

Starting caliber players are not playing summer league year 2.
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« Reply #3259 on: Today at 12:58:26 PM »

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If Hugo is playing another year of summer league, the organization still views him as a project player. I think the expectations that fans have for him this coming season is pie in the sky.

Yeah that's not really the way the summer league works. Generally, players at least play the first two years of their career.

Starting caliber players are not playing summer league year 2.

I don't disagree that Hugo is still something less than a starting caliber player.  But this also applies to Hauser, Walsh, Scheierman, and Harper.  One of this group is likely to start so that Pritchard can come off the bench.  Hugo will benefit from Summer League.  I don't see this as a reflection of anything more than that.

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« Reply #3260 on: Today at 01:05:30 PM »

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If Hugo is playing another year of summer league, the organization still views him as a project player. I think the expectations that fans have for him this coming season is pie in the sky.

Yeah that's not really the way the summer league works. Generally, players at least play the first two years of their career.

Starting caliber players are not playing summer league year 2.

I mean Jaylen is an example of that.  Another more recent one is Keyonta George.  Do I think the team prefers if they had someone stronger to start instead of Huge?  Absolutely.  But I think they are going to want Pritchard to come off the bench so I think it is just a matter of time until Hugo or Baylor end up taking the starting spot from Hauser.  I definitely would not say no chance Hugo is going to become the starter of this team because he is playing summer league as a sign the team sees no starter potential in him tihs year. 

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« Reply #3261 on: Today at 01:24:10 PM »

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If Hugo is playing another year of summer league, the organization still views him as a project player. I think the expectations that fans have for him this coming season is pie in the sky.

Yeah that's not really the way the summer league works. Generally, players at least play the first two years of their career.

Starting caliber players are not playing summer league year 2.

I mean Jaylen is an example of that.  Another more recent one is Keyonta George.  Do I think the team prefers if they had someone stronger to start instead of Huge?  Absolutely.  But I think they are going to want Pritchard to come off the bench so I think it is just a matter of time until Hugo or Baylor end up taking the starting spot from Hauser.  I definitely would not say no chance Hugo is going to become the starter of this team because he is playing summer league as a sign the team sees no starter potential in him tihs year.

JB started year 2 because Hayward destroyed his leg. So if PG13 cannot play maybe Hugo starts over him. Still think they would go with Baylor, though. His defense is not as good as Gonzalez but everything else is better. Baylor was a rotation player in the postseason, Hugo was not.

Keyonte George wasn?t a starter until year 3.

Also, I?m not saying Hugo will never be a starter, I just don?t see it for this year.
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« Reply #3262 on: Today at 01:58:13 PM »

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If Hugo is playing another year of summer league, the organization still views him as a project player. I think the expectations that fans have for him this coming season is pie in the sky.

Yeah that's not really the way the summer league works. Generally, players at least play the first two years of their career.

Starting caliber players are not playing summer league year 2.

I mean Jaylen is an example of that.  Another more recent one is Keyonta George.  Do I think the team prefers if they had someone stronger to start instead of Huge?  Absolutely.  But I think they are going to want Pritchard to come off the bench so I think it is just a matter of time until Hugo or Baylor end up taking the starting spot from Hauser.  I definitely would not say no chance Hugo is going to become the starter of this team because he is playing summer league as a sign the team sees no starter potential in him tihs year.

JB started year 2 because Hayward destroyed his leg. So if PG13 cannot play maybe Hugo starts over him. Still think they would go with Baylor, though. His defense is not as good as Gonzalez but everything else is better. Baylor was a rotation player in the postseason, Hugo was not.

Keyonte George wasn?t a starter until year 3.

Also, I?m not saying Hugo will never be a starter, I just don?t see it for this year.

JB started opening night next to Hayward.  He was not a starter because Hayward got hurt.  Get your facts right if you are going take an aggressive position.

No one is saying Hugo will be Jaylen.  I am not even saying Hugo will start, although I do think it is something being considered.  I am just saying that Hugo being at Summer League is not evidence one way or the other.

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« Reply #3263 on: Today at 02:27:17 PM »

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If Hugo is playing another year of summer league, the organization still views him as a project player. I think the expectations that fans have for him this coming season is pie in the sky.

Yeah that's not really the way the summer league works. Generally, players at least play the first two years of their career.

Starting caliber players are not playing summer league year 2.

I mean Jaylen is an example of that.  Another more recent one is Keyonta George.  Do I think the team prefers if they had someone stronger to start instead of Huge?  Absolutely.  But I think they are going to want Pritchard to come off the bench so I think it is just a matter of time until Hugo or Baylor end up taking the starting spot from Hauser.  I definitely would not say no chance Hugo is going to become the starter of this team because he is playing summer league as a sign the team sees no starter potential in him tihs year.

JB started year 2 because Hayward destroyed his leg. So if PG13 cannot play maybe Hugo starts over him. Still think they would go with Baylor, though. His defense is not as good as Gonzalez but everything else is better. Baylor was a rotation player in the postseason, Hugo was not.

Keyonte George wasn?t a starter until year 3.

Also, I?m not saying Hugo will never be a starter, I just don?t see it for this year.

JB started opening night next to Hayward.  He was not a starter because Hayward got hurt.  Get your facts right if you are going take an aggressive position.

No one is saying Hugo will be Jaylen.  I am not even saying Hugo will start, although I do think it is something being considered.  I am just saying that Hugo being at Summer League is not evidence one way or the other.

My bad. JB was a starter year 2, but then only started 25 games in year 3. Thought it was the other way around.

Getting back to Hugo, I just don?t see a player who was out of the rotation come playoff time becoming a starter the following season. We shall see, though.
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« Reply #3264 on: Today at 02:45:29 PM »

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If Hugo is playing another year of summer league, the organization still views him as a project player. I think the expectations that fans have for him this coming season is pie in the sky.

Yeah that's not really the way the summer league works. Generally, players at least play the first two years of their career.

Starting caliber players are not playing summer league year 2.

I mean Jaylen is an example of that.  Another more recent one is Keyonta George.  Do I think the team prefers if they had someone stronger to start instead of Huge?  Absolutely.  But I think they are going to want Pritchard to come off the bench so I think it is just a matter of time until Hugo or Baylor end up taking the starting spot from Hauser.  I definitely would not say no chance Hugo is going to become the starter of this team because he is playing summer league as a sign the team sees no starter potential in him tihs year.

JB started year 2 because Hayward destroyed his leg. So if PG13 cannot play maybe Hugo starts over him. Still think they would go with Baylor, though. His defense is not as good as Gonzalez but everything else is better. Baylor was a rotation player in the postseason, Hugo was not.

Keyonte George wasn?t a starter until year 3.

Also, I?m not saying Hugo will never be a starter, I just don?t see it for this year.

JB started opening night next to Hayward.  He was not a starter because Hayward got hurt.  Get your facts right if you are going take an aggressive position.

No one is saying Hugo will be Jaylen.  I am not even saying Hugo will start, although I do think it is something being considered.  I am just saying that Hugo being at Summer League is not evidence one way or the other.

My bad. JB was a starter year 2, but then only started 25 games in year 3. Thought it was the other way around.

Getting back to Hugo, I just don?t see a player who was out of the rotation come playoff time becoming a starter the following season. We shall see, though.

The debate isn't whether or not Hugo should be a starter, the debate with whether or not the fact that the Celtics asked Hugo to attend summer league is in some way a reflection on how they view his current ability.  My only point is that I don't this means that the Celtics have ruled out him winning a starter role.

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If Hugo is playing another year of summer league, the organization still views him as a project player. I think the expectations that fans have for him this coming season is pie in the sky.

Yeah that's not really the way the summer league works. Generally, players at least play the first two years of their career.

Starting caliber players are not playing summer league year 2.

I mean Jaylen is an example of that.  Another more recent one is Keyonta George.  Do I think the team prefers if they had someone stronger to start instead of Huge?  Absolutely.  But I think they are going to want Pritchard to come off the bench so I think it is just a matter of time until Hugo or Baylor end up taking the starting spot from Hauser.  I definitely would not say no chance Hugo is going to become the starter of this team because he is playing summer league as a sign the team sees no starter potential in him tihs year.

JB started year 2 because Hayward destroyed his leg. So if PG13 cannot play maybe Hugo starts over him. Still think they would go with Baylor, though. His defense is not as good as Gonzalez but everything else is better. Baylor was a rotation player in the postseason, Hugo was not.

Keyonte George wasn?t a starter until year 3.

Also, I?m not saying Hugo will never be a starter, I just don?t see it for this year.

JB started opening night next to Hayward.  He was not a starter because Hayward got hurt.  Get your facts right if you are going take an aggressive position.

No one is saying Hugo will be Jaylen.  I am not even saying Hugo will start, although I do think it is something being considered.  I am just saying that Hugo being at Summer League is not evidence one way or the other.

My bad. JB was a starter year 2, but then only started 25 games in year 3. Thought it was the other way around.

Getting back to Hugo, I just don?t see a player who was out of the rotation come playoff time becoming a starter the following season. We shall see, though.

The debate isn't whether or not Hugo should be a starter, the debate with whether or not the fact that the Celtics asked Hugo to attend summer league is in some way a reflection on how they view his current ability.  My only point is that I don't this means that the Celtics have ruled out him winning a starter role.

Given that the starters aren?t etched in stone why would anyone be ruled out as a starter?  Or at least any of HuBaWaHaHa? Couldn?t performance in SL and training camp win someone the job?

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I really don't think its any sort of indictment at all.  Also, if Hugo was that much of a project, he would've seen some G League minutes last year.

FWIW, every player drafted btw #5 & #14 in the 2025 draft is on a summer league roster except Jeremiah Fears and Derik Queen. 


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If Hugo is playing another year of summer league, the organization still views him as a project player. I think the expectations that fans have for him this coming season is pie in the sky.

Yeah that's not really the way the summer league works. Generally, players at least play the first two years of their career.

Starting caliber players are not playing summer league year 2.

Sometimes they don't. Sometimes they do. Bench guys sometimes don't play, and sometimes they do.

Sometimes a player that was effective last year will use summer league to keep growing as a player. Sometimes a player that wasn't as effective as they could be skip summer league their second year.

Hugo didn't do enough last year to not take every opportunity he can to get better.

I don't really expect a high level starter this year from him, but I'd like to see him continue to be more effective.

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I really don't think its any sort of indictment at all.  Also, if Hugo was that much of a project, he would've seen some G League minutes last year.

FWIW, every player drafted btw #5 & #14 in the 2025 draft is on a summer league roster except Jeremiah Fears and Derik Queen.

Both of them should be playing too. They need all the development/confidence they can get.

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https://heavy.com/sports/nba/boston-celtics/jaylen-brown-trade-return-76ers-market-impact/

Interesting read.  If true it sheds light on why the C's got so little in return.