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[Phantom255x]

Just realized, the Knicks have lost two in a row also so now the C's are the 2 seed again.

Even with everything going on and a bit of a scuffle lately, the C's are still looking like a Tier 1 team in an open East. And then Tatum comes back.

The C's did also lose 2 in a row to the Spurs and Pacers, and nearly 3 until the comeback against Miami. Otherwise I would've had to fire up the tank train again seeing their slump.

But with the recent games have they finally peaked or can they still do more??

You add Tatum and a backup center at the trade deadline and this team to me is the favorite coming out of the East. Not to say it'll be reflected in the odds and standings, and they'll have to prove it. But DET has a little bit of an inexperience factor to me still which I think could affect them in a series with NY + BOS, and the Knicks are obviously talented but they've also looked iffy lately and KAT in particular has been maddeningly inconsistent. The C's choked last year's series but I'd welcome a rematch hopefully in May

Besides the obvious of choking away 20 point leads and dying by the 3, I also felt last year's team just had an ill Porzingis (clearly not in game shape) and Horford + Jrue were also older and looked slow on the court. This year's team has guys who can hustle, play defense and play fast. We've seen some of it too with someone like Hugo who makes so many plays not on the box score but it impacts the game, including the games against the Knicks.

We're a younger team and more faster and athletic because of it which should help.

[Goldstar88]

D-White and Pierce discuss who would win in a matchup between the 2008 and 2024 Celtics.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YU48WiaeYJc&pp=ugUEEgJlbg%3D%3D

[Celtics2021]

Just realized, the Knicks have lost two in a row also so now the C's are the 2 seed again.

Even with everything going on and a bit of a scuffle lately, the C's are still looking like a Tier 1 team in an open East. And then Tatum comes back.

The C's did also lose 2 in a row to the Spurs and Pacers, and nearly 3 until the comeback against Miami. Otherwise I would've had to fire up the tank train again seeing their slump.

But with the recent games have they finally peaked or can they still do more??

You add Tatum and a backup center at the trade deadline and this team to me is the favorite coming out of the East. Not to say it'll be reflected in the odds and standings, and they'll have to prove it. But DET has a little bit of an inexperience factor to me still which I think could affect them in a series with NY + BOS, and the Knicks are obviously talented but they've also looked iffy lately and KAT in particular has been maddeningly inconsistent. The C's choked last year's series but I'd welcome a rematch hopefully in May

Besides the obvious of choking away 20 point leads and dying by the 3, I also felt last year's team just had an ill Porzingis (clearly not in game shape) and Horford + Jrue were also older and looked slow on the court. This year's team has guys who can hustle, play defense and play fast. We've seen some of it too with someone like Hugo who makes so many plays not on the box score but it impacts the game, including the games against the Knicks.

We're a younger team and more faster and athletic because of it which should help.

When you think of last year?s team, do not forget JB was playing on a torn meniscus, that Jrue missed the last three games of the Orlando series, and that prior to the Achilles, Tatum was injured by that flagrant foul in the Magic series.  The team that played the Knicks was not the same Celtics team that played the first 70ish games of the year.

[slamtheking]

D-White and Pierce discuss who would win in a matchup between the 2008 and 2024 Celtics.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YU48WiaeYJc&pp=ugUEEgJlbg%3D%3D

I'd go with 2008.  even though Perk trying to guard on the perimeter would have gone poorly, KP missed enough of the playoffs so that Perk wouldn't have been a liability.

2008 didn't have as many offensive options as 2024 but they had more than enough, and a varied offense, to keep up with 2024.  The D and Rebounding were better with 2008 as well. 

[Redz]

D-White and Pierce discuss who would win in a matchup between the 2008 and 2024 Celtics.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YU48WiaeYJc&pp=ugUEEgJlbg%3D%3D

I'd go with 2008.  even though Perk trying to guard on the perimeter would have gone poorly, KP missed enough of the playoffs so that Perk wouldn't have been a liability.

2008 didn't have as many offensive options as 2024 but they had more than enough, and a varied offense, to keep up with 2024.  The D and Rebounding were better with 2008 as well.

2008 team had a lot more dog in them. I?d take them.

[Goldstar88]

Adam Himmelsbach: Jayson Tatum getting a full workout in at Celtics shootaround here in Detroit.
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[jambr380]

Adam Himmelsbach: Jayson Tatum getting a full workout in at Celtics shootaround here in Detroit.
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Yeah, great write-up by Noa Dalzell on Tatum's workout. Still no official return news, but you have to think that he is really feeling a lot closer.

http://www.celticsblog.com/articles/129615/jayson-tatum-celtics-shootaround-achilles-recovery

[Phantom255x]

Assuming no setbacks, I still think his return will be March 4.

He has stated his goal is to come back around his birthday (March 3) and also in a home game, and the C's play the Hornets on March 4 at home, and there's another game March 6 at home. Good time to make a return and at least get his feet wet. Obviously he will be on limited minutes and not playing any B2Bs, but he can still ramp up for beyond April hopefully.

I know he's said or mentioned February as well, but I would still play it a little safe.

[mobilija]

Adam Himmelsbach: Jayson Tatum getting a full workout in at Celtics shootaround here in Detroit.
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Yeah, great write-up by Noa Dalzell on Tatum's workout. Still no official return news, but you have to think that he is really feeling a lot closer.

http://www.celticsblog.com/articles/129615/jayson-tatum-celtics-shootaround-achilles-recovery

TP!
That?s an A+ article
Celticsblog has turned a corner recently, putting out some good stuff.

[Goldstar88]

with Boston entering Wednesday?s game against the Pacers second in the Eastern Conference standings ? and with Jayson Tatum getting closer to returning longtime NBA insider Zach Lowe believes that the Celtics will be aggressive in the coming weeks to add to a team that has exceeded expectations. ?All the rumblings around the league is that Boston is now going to buy, Lowe said on his podcast. I don?t know how that works. I don?t know if they can buy and cut their tax bill at the same time. The obvious place for them to buy would be up front where they could use another legit front-court player. But this team is clearly really good.
Boston Globe

[boscel33]

with Boston entering Wednesday?s game against the Pacers second in the Eastern Conference standings ? and with Jayson Tatum getting closer to returning longtime NBA insider Zach Lowe believes that the Celtics will be aggressive in the coming weeks to add to a team that has exceeded expectations. ?All the rumblings around the league is that Boston is now going to buy, Lowe said on his podcast. I don?t know how that works. I don?t know if they can buy and cut their tax bill at the same time. The obvious place for them to buy would be up front where they could use another legit front-court player. But this team is clearly really good.
Boston Globe

News like this gets my excitement up, generally only to have it let down because our Boston teams don't act.

Who was the last "major" trade from one of the local teams?

Bruins liquidated last year.
NFL is generally a dud at the deadline.
Red Sox?  Bleh!
Celtics with the Derrick White deal!!

Let's go Brad, show the others how it's done.

[Roy H.]

with Boston entering Wednesday?s game against the Pacers second in the Eastern Conference standings ? and with Jayson Tatum getting closer to returning longtime NBA insider Zach Lowe believes that the Celtics will be aggressive in the coming weeks to add to a team that has exceeded expectations. ?All the rumblings around the league is that Boston is now going to buy, Lowe said on his podcast. I don?t know how that works. I don?t know if they can buy and cut their tax bill at the same time. The obvious place for them to buy would be up front where they could use another legit front-court player. But this team is clearly really good.
Boston Globe

News like this gets my excitement up, generally only to have it let down because our Boston teams don't act.

Who was the last "major" trade from one of the local teams?

Bruins liquidated last year.
NFL is generally a dud at the deadline.
Red Sox?  Bleh!
Celtics with the Derrick White deal!!

Let's go Brad, show the others how it's done.

The Red Sox have definitely made some big trades.  They just usually aren't adding elite talent.  But, in recent years, the Sox have definitely been the most interesting team in town regarding trades.

[trickybilly]

I wonder if any teams are calling about Tatum, now that Brown is looking like a #1 option. Tatum trade value low right now..

Tatum for Jokic, probably I'd say yes.

Tatum for Giannis? Nah, we'd need a pick I think

[Neurotic Guy]

I wonder if any teams are calling about Tatum, now that Brown is looking like a #1 option. Tatum trade value low right now..

Tatum for Jokic, probably I'd say yes.

Tatum for Giannis? Nah, we'd need a pick I think

As far as star talent with comparable salary, I think they are the only two I'd say yes to. 

[Vermont Green]

This isn't Celtics News, just highly unlikely hypothetical scenarios, but assuming that Tatum comes back and is the player he was before the injury, there are very few peers.  The following list is the candidates:

1.  Jokic (Still the best in the league in my view)
2.  SGA  (debatable to be ahead of Tatum, but most would likely have him at #2)
3.  Tatum
4.  Giannis (he has dropped off)
5.  Doncic  (still a top player but not as much of a lock as he once was)
6.  Embiid?  (Not sure he is still on the list due to injury)

Then you get into the next tier that in my view includes (in no particular order), Brown, Edwards, Mitchell, Brunson, Maxey, Wembanyama, and maybe some others.  Then some old guys like Durant, LeBron, Leonard, Curry.