2024 NBA Season and Playoffs

[Celtics2021]

I got to say, I didn't expect OKC to be dominated like this by Dallas. They can't do anything inside vs Dallas length. Jalen Willians looks out of his depth.

If told told me Kyrie would average 14ppg this series I'd assume Dallas got smoked, but they are winning with defense.

Other than SGA who do they have in that team that scares you? Nobody. Sam Presti committed GM malpractice by doing nothing at the deadline. This team could have won a title with good moves. Imagine if they made the trade Dallas did. There’s no guarantee in the NBA that young players develop or draft picks work out or everyone stays healthy ect ect.

Yeah, I’ve been saying the same thing.  OKC is loaded with picks and the only thing they did was trade some seconds to get Gordon Hayward and clear future salary.  The time is going to come sooner than later when their core will get expensive, and Thunder ownership has shown in the past it is scared of paying too much.  They easily could’ve gotten Gafford from Washington to fill their biggest hole, and had plenty left over, but Presti was too scared to go for it.

[Moranis]

I got to say, I didn't expect OKC to be dominated like this by Dallas. They can't do anything inside vs Dallas length. Jalen Willians looks out of his depth.

If told told me Kyrie would average 14ppg this series I'd assume Dallas got smoked, but they are winning with defense.

Other than SGA who do they have in that team that scares you? Nobody. Sam Presti committed GM malpractice by doing nothing at the deadline. This team could have won a title with good moves. Imagine if they made the trade Dallas did. There’s no guarantee in the NBA that young players develop or draft picks work out or everyone stays healthy ect ect.

Yeah, I’ve been saying the same thing.  OKC is loaded with picks and the only thing they did was trade some seconds to get Gordon Hayward and clear future salary.  The time is going to come sooner than later when their core will get expensive, and Thunder ownership has shown in the past it is scared of paying too much.  They easily could’ve gotten Gafford from Washington to fill their biggest hole, and had plenty left over, but Presti was too scared to go for it.

maybe he felt they were too young and a minor move wouldn't have mattered and would have onky hamstrung them making a major move.  They do need size and I imagine will at least make a minor move this summer towards that. 

[celticinorlando]

Do the T Wolves have any chance tonight??

[Phantom255x]

Do the T Wolves have any chance tonight??

Yes. I got them winning 102-96.

I also think IND wins home Game 6 tomorrow.

OKC though is probably done. DAL looks better and more experienced, and even the Game 4 OKC win was largely due to DAL choking more than anything.

[BitterJim]

I got to say, I didn't expect OKC to be dominated like this by Dallas. They can't do anything inside vs Dallas length. Jalen Willians looks out of his depth.

If told told me Kyrie would average 14ppg this series I'd assume Dallas got smoked, but they are winning with defense.

Other than SGA who do they have in that team that scares you? Nobody. Sam Presti committed GM malpractice by doing nothing at the deadline. This team could have won a title with good moves. Imagine if they made the trade Dallas did. There’s no guarantee in the NBA that young players develop or draft picks work out or everyone stays healthy ect ect.

Yeah, I’ve been saying the same thing.  OKC is loaded with picks and the only thing they did was trade some seconds to get Gordon Hayward and clear future salary.  The time is going to come sooner than later when their core will get expensive, and Thunder ownership has shown in the past it is scared of paying too much.  They easily could’ve gotten Gafford from Washington to fill their biggest hole, and had plenty left over, but Presti was too scared to go for it.

Change "OKC" to "Boston" and "Presti" to "Ainge" and this discussion is almost word for word ones we had here like 5 years ago.

Now the only question is whether Presti is right to wait and let guys mature, or if they need their very own Brad Stevens to come in and put them over the top. It's hard to say

[Vermont Green]

Seems like Mitchell and garland aren’t compatible. Sounds like no players on the cavs had faith in the coach either

A Donovan Mitchell extension could affect Darius Garland's future.

If Mitchell signs, Klutch Sports' Rich Paul would speak with team officials on potentially finding a new home for Garland, sources tell @ShamsCharania, @joevardon and @ByJasonLloyd.

Narratives around how certain players can't play together tend to get overblown in my opinion.  I don't see any issue with style of play with Garland and Mitchell but there is a size issue.  It ends up being a very small back court.

For CLE, it may be more about cap and roster balance.  If they sign Mitchell long term, their top 2 paid guys are both undersized offensive minded guards.  Doesn't seem like best way to build a team.  I like both players though.  And for the season, the Cavs were pretty good statistically when both were on the floor together.

I think they will find that the problem with the Cavs isn't Mitchell and Garland.  They may end up losing Mitchell in any case.

[Who]

Do OKC have enough cap space this summer to go after someone like PG13?

He would be an interesting addition to the team. SGA as their #1. Then PG13 and Jalen Williams as their Big Three. Chet Williams as their 4th option. Then Giddey & Dort as fifth and sixth best players. That would be a strong team.

[angryguy77]

https://x.com/historyinmemes/status/1790859450716127235


Solution to JB's FT troubles.

[Birdman]

I could see a trade of Miami/Cleveland

Miami gets Mitchell
Cavs gets Herro, Jaquez & 1st

Cavs starters
Allen
Mobley
Jaquez
Herro
Garland
Pretty good looking young team

Miami build around Butler, Bam, Mitchell & Rozier

[Who]

I think the OKC being overwhelmed is wrong. They shot 10-40 on threes last night. 25%. Teams rarely win when they shoot that bad on 3s. If they go 15-40, good chance they come away with a win instead of a loss.

OKC was a middle of the pack team in terms of 3PTA this season but they were #1 in the league in 3PT%. 

[Vermont Green]

I could see a trade of Miami/Cleveland

Miami gets Mitchell
Cavs gets Herro, Jaquez & 1st

Cavs starters
Allen
Mobley
Jaquez
Herro
Garland
Pretty good looking young team

Miami build around Butler, Bam, Mitchell & Rozier

I think for a trade like this to work, Mitchell would have to first pick up his final year option, otherwise he would be a UFA and it would be a sign and trade.  If a sign and trade, MIA becomes hard capped and I am not sure they could do the trade.  The option year is $37M, so he would be leaving money on the table and forced to risk playing another season without a new contract.

If MIA could get Mitchell for this trade, they would become very good.

[Larry for 3]

I think the OKC being overwhelmed is wrong. They shot 10-40 on threes last night. 25%. Teams rarely win when they shoot that bad on 3s. If they go 15-40, good chance they come away with a win instead of a loss.

OKC was a middle of the pack team in terms of 3PTA this season but they were #1 in the league in 3PT%.

Since when do young teams win in the NBA playoffs? They don’t. Not surprised this is happening. They would have lost to the  Lakers in the first round if those fakers had tanked instead of winning to face Denver.

[celticinorlando]

I could see a trade of Miami/Cleveland

Miami gets Mitchell
Cavs gets Herro, Jaquez & 1st

Cavs starters
Allen
Mobley
Jaquez
Herro
Garland
Pretty good looking young team

Miami build around Butler, Bam, Mitchell & Rozier

I don't think Butler remains in Miami. I think they use his cap space and go after a FA to pair with Bam and also try to make a deal for a Mitchell or Garland.

[Moranis]

I could see a trade of Miami/Cleveland

Miami gets Mitchell
Cavs gets Herro, Jaquez & 1st

Cavs starters
Allen
Mobley
Jaquez
Herro
Garland
Pretty good looking young team

Miami build around Butler, Bam, Mitchell & Rozier

I think for a trade like this to work, Mitchell would have to first pick up his final year option, otherwise he would be a UFA and it would be a sign and trade.  If a sign and trade, MIA becomes hard capped and I am not sure they could do the trade.  The option year is $37M, so he would be leaving money on the table and forced to risk playing another season without a new contract.

If MIA could get Mitchell for this trade, they would become very good.

Mitchell is not a free agent. He has 1 year and then the option year.

That trade isn't good enough return for the Cavs. They will get better offers from the Nets or other teams. Heck the Lakers could probably beat that depending on what the Cavs thought of Reaves vs. Herro.

[Moranis]

I think the OKC being overwhelmed is wrong. They shot 10-40 on threes last night. 25%. Teams rarely win when they shoot that bad on 3s. If they go 15-40, good chance they come away with a win instead of a loss.

OKC was a middle of the pack team in terms of 3PTA this season but they were #1 in the league in 3PT%.

the only game they didn't shoot poorly was game 1. Maybe just maybe it is the Mavs defense, you know actually overwhelming the Thunder.