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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3840 on: March 04, 2024, 10:28:31 PM »

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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3841 on: March 04, 2024, 10:36:16 PM »

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Clippers will be a massive disappointment in the playoffs

I’ve been fairly open minded and optimistic on them but am starting to change my mind.

Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3842 on: March 05, 2024, 12:27:16 AM »

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Lakers are starting to turn it on a bit here, absolutely crushing OKC in LA. They’ve beat some good teams now in the last week including the Clippers and Thunder, they also gave Denver a good run for their money until down the stretch.
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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3843 on: March 05, 2024, 12:42:48 AM »

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Lakers are starting to turn it on a bit here, absolutely crushing OKC in LA. They’ve beat some good teams now in the last week including the Clippers and Thunder, they also gave Denver a good run for their money until down the stretch.

Yup. The naysayers here were saying otherwise. They could be a 7th or 8th seed coming in looking to upset teams esp if they draw OKC or Minnesota. Never count out LeBron James and healthy AD in the postseason


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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3844 on: March 05, 2024, 12:51:59 AM »

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Lakers are starting to turn it on a bit here, absolutely crushing OKC in LA. They’ve beat some good teams now in the last week including the Clippers and Thunder, they also gave Denver a good run for their money until down the stretch.

Yup. The naysayers here were saying otherwise. They could be a 7th or 8th seed coming in looking to upset teams esp if they draw OKC or Minnesota. Never count out LeBron James and healthy AD in the postseason

lol some guys here want this to be true so bad. I do actually think they have a chance of beating OKC cause OKC was pretty dumb to not get a big body alongside Chet. AD just dominates Chet. But aside from that we are 60 games into the season teams aren’t suddenly turning things around without any roster changes. The lakers lose to the suns, have a nice win against the clippers, play terrible against wizards and squeak by in overtime. Lose to the nuggets. Play well against the thunder. This is what they have been doing all season and why they are a few games above .500 60 games in.

Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3845 on: March 05, 2024, 06:48:06 AM »

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Let's not forget Miami benefited last year with Giannis getting hurt immediately in the series. If he is healthy, Miami doesn't get out of round one.

I don’t necessarily buy that. Maybe the series goes longer maybe you’re even right but Giannis missed 2 games and the bucks won one of those games, he came back and played well and the Heat easily won that series. Wasn’t even close.

Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3846 on: March 05, 2024, 06:56:03 AM »

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Clippers will be a massive disappointment in the playoffs

they have talent. but they strike me as a team that will disappoint in the playoffs and people will be surprised.

I mean they did play a tough game against minnesota the night before. but losing to milwaukee without giannis?

Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3847 on: March 05, 2024, 07:12:48 AM »

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Clippers will be a massive disappointment in the playoffs
I'm kinda hoping for this. Easy team to root against.

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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3848 on: March 05, 2024, 09:12:06 AM »

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Lakers are starting to turn it on a bit here, absolutely crushing OKC in LA. They’ve beat some good teams now in the last week including the Clippers and Thunder, they also gave Denver a good run for their money until down the stretch.

Yup. The naysayers here were saying otherwise. They could be a 7th or 8th seed coming in looking to upset teams esp if they draw OKC or Minnesota. Never count out LeBron James and healthy AD in the postseason

lol some guys here want this to be true so bad. I do actually think they have a chance of beating OKC cause OKC was pretty dumb to not get a big body alongside Chet. AD just dominates Chet. But aside from that we are 60 games into the season teams aren’t suddenly turning things around without any roster changes. The lakers lose to the suns, have a nice win against the clippers, play terrible against wizards and squeak by in overtime. Lose to the nuggets. Play well against the thunder. This is what they have been doing all season and why they are a few games above .500 60 games in.
the Lakers have been up and down all year, but they were 19-21 in mid January and are 15-8 since.  So that is a quarter of the season at a 53 to 54 win pace (they were also 24-25 and are 10-4 since, but that is a smaller sample size so i took the bigger one). They have 7 of their next 8 at home as well so they could keep it up even with playing some better teams in that stretch.  They then have a 6 game road trip in the central and Eastern time zones, though have several bad teams in it.
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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3849 on: March 05, 2024, 09:58:52 AM »

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Lakers are starting to turn it on a bit here, absolutely crushing OKC in LA. They’ve beat some good teams now in the last week including the Clippers and Thunder, they also gave Denver a good run for their money until down the stretch.

Yup. The naysayers here were saying otherwise. They could be a 7th or 8th seed coming in looking to upset teams esp if they draw OKC or Minnesota. Never count out LeBron James and healthy AD in the postseason

lol some guys here want this to be true so bad. I do actually think they have a chance of beating OKC cause OKC was pretty dumb to not get a big body alongside Chet. AD just dominates Chet. But aside from that we are 60 games into the season teams aren’t suddenly turning things around without any roster changes. The lakers lose to the suns, have a nice win against the clippers, play terrible against wizards and squeak by in overtime. Lose to the nuggets. Play well against the thunder. This is what they have been doing all season and why they are a few games above .500 60 games in.
the Lakers have been up and down all year, but they were 19-21 in mid January and are 15-8 since.  So that is a quarter of the season at a 53 to 54 win pace (they were also 24-25 and are 10-4 since, but that is a smaller sample size so i took the bigger one). They have 7 of their next 8 at home as well so they could keep it up even with playing some better teams in that stretch.  They then have a 6 game road trip in the central and Eastern time zones, though have several bad teams in it.

You can manipulate certain stretches of any season to make a team look like they are playing better or worse. In reality, a lot of it is scheduling and catching a few breaks (in your favor or against you). In this stretch the lakers have piled up some wins against the blazers, spurs, hornets, pistons, wizards and Knicks down multiple starters. They also had their inexplicable win against us without AD or Lebron. As the saying goes, you are what your record says you are and they are a pretty average team out west. This is a lot different than last year where they overturned half their roster before the deadline and their pieces fit together better after improving their chances. This team has been remarkably healthy in their top 4 all year and they really don’t have any new additions playing major minutes. What exactly would they have figured out? Is Lebron suddenly unlocking a new part of his game at 40? Is AD? And also to be fair, part of what was amusing about this is that there have been like 4 points this season we have had people saying “are the lakers figuring things out” on this thread (along with other teams). I guess I’m just ready for the playoffs to start. Also I do think with the right matchup the lakers could win a series and one of those good matchups for them
Is against the Thunder.

Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3850 on: March 05, 2024, 10:00:21 AM »

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Lakers are starting to turn it on a bit here, absolutely crushing OKC in LA. They’ve beat some good teams now in the last week including the Clippers and Thunder, they also gave Denver a good run for their money until down the stretch.

Yup. The naysayers here were saying otherwise. They could be a 7th or 8th seed coming in looking to upset teams esp if they draw OKC or Minnesota. Never count out LeBron James and healthy AD in the postseason

lol some guys here want this to be true so bad. I do actually think they have a chance of beating OKC cause OKC was pretty dumb to not get a big body alongside Chet. AD just dominates Chet. But aside from that we are 60 games into the season teams aren’t suddenly turning things around without any roster changes. The lakers lose to the suns, have a nice win against the clippers, play terrible against wizards and squeak by in overtime. Lose to the nuggets. Play well against the thunder. This is what they have been doing all season and why they are a few games above .500 60 games in.
the Lakers have been up and down all year, but they were 19-21 in mid January and are 15-8 since.  So that is a quarter of the season at a 53 to 54 win pace (they were also 24-25 and are 10-4 since, but that is a smaller sample size so i took the bigger one). They have 7 of their next 8 at home as well so they could keep it up even with playing some better teams in that stretch.  They then have a 6 game road trip in the central and Eastern time zones, though have several bad teams in it.

You can manipulate certain stretches of any season to make a team look like they are playing better or worse. In reality, a lot of it is scheduling and catching a few breaks (in your favor or against you). In this stretch the lakers have piled up some wins against the blazers, spurs, hornets, pistons, wizards and Knicks down multiple starters. They also had their inexplicable win against us without AD or Lebron. As the saying goes, you are what your record says you are and they are a pretty average team out west. This is a lot different than last year where they overturned half their roster before the deadline and their pieces fit together better after improving their chances. This team has been remarkably healthy in their top 4 all year and they really don’t have any new additions playing major minutes. What exactly would they have figured out? Is Lebron suddenly unlocking a new part of his game at 40? Is AD? And also to be fair, part of what was amusing about this is that there have been like 4 points this season we have had people saying “are the lakers figuring things out” on this thread (along with other teams). I guess I’m just ready for the playoffs to start. Also I do think with the right matchup the lakers could win a series and one of those good matchups for them
Is against the Thunder.

OKC might be the only top 6 seed that I think LAL can beat in a playoff series.

Everyone else will make short work of LAL.

Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3851 on: March 05, 2024, 10:40:34 AM »

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Lakers are starting to turn it on a bit here, absolutely crushing OKC in LA. They’ve beat some good teams now in the last week including the Clippers and Thunder, they also gave Denver a good run for their money until down the stretch.

Yup. The naysayers here were saying otherwise. They could be a 7th or 8th seed coming in looking to upset teams esp if they draw OKC or Minnesota. Never count out LeBron James and healthy AD in the postseason

lol some guys here want this to be true so bad. I do actually think they have a chance of beating OKC cause OKC was pretty dumb to not get a big body alongside Chet. AD just dominates Chet. But aside from that we are 60 games into the season teams aren’t suddenly turning things around without any roster changes. The lakers lose to the suns, have a nice win against the clippers, play terrible against wizards and squeak by in overtime. Lose to the nuggets. Play well against the thunder. This is what they have been doing all season and why they are a few games above .500 60 games in.
the Lakers have been up and down all year, but they were 19-21 in mid January and are 15-8 since.  So that is a quarter of the season at a 53 to 54 win pace (they were also 24-25 and are 10-4 since, but that is a smaller sample size so i took the bigger one). They have 7 of their next 8 at home as well so they could keep it up even with playing some better teams in that stretch.  They then have a 6 game road trip in the central and Eastern time zones, though have several bad teams in it.

You can manipulate certain stretches of any season to make a team look like they are playing better or worse. In reality, a lot of it is scheduling and catching a few breaks (in your favor or against you). In this stretch the lakers have piled up some wins against the blazers, spurs, hornets, pistons, wizards and Knicks down multiple starters. They also had their inexplicable win against us without AD or Lebron. As the saying goes, you are what your record says you are and they are a pretty average team out west. This is a lot different than last year where they overturned half their roster before the deadline and their pieces fit together better after improving their chances. This team has been remarkably healthy in their top 4 all year and they really don’t have any new additions playing major minutes. What exactly would they have figured out? Is Lebron suddenly unlocking a new part of his game at 40? Is AD? And also to be fair, part of what was amusing about this is that there have been like 4 points this season we have had people saying “are the lakers figuring things out” on this thread (along with other teams). I guess I’m just ready for the playoffs to start. Also I do think with the right matchup the lakers could win a series and one of those good matchups for them
Is against the Thunder.

OKC might be the only top 6 seed that I think LAL can beat in a playoff series.

Everyone else will make short work of LAL.

Minnesota is such an unknown I don’t really know what to expect from them in the playoffs. Nuggets should obviously beat them. Clippers should beat them (and clippers were down Zubac and George when they play last week), but since they are the clippers who knows if they somehow choke.

Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3852 on: March 05, 2024, 11:56:05 AM »

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Lakers are starting to turn it on a bit here, absolutely crushing OKC in LA. They’ve beat some good teams now in the last week including the Clippers and Thunder, they also gave Denver a good run for their money until down the stretch.

Yup. The naysayers here were saying otherwise. They could be a 7th or 8th seed coming in looking to upset teams esp if they draw OKC or Minnesota. Never count out LeBron James and healthy AD in the postseason

lol some guys here want this to be true so bad. I do actually think they have a chance of beating OKC cause OKC was pretty dumb to not get a big body alongside Chet. AD just dominates Chet. But aside from that we are 60 games into the season teams aren’t suddenly turning things around without any roster changes. The lakers lose to the suns, have a nice win against the clippers, play terrible against wizards and squeak by in overtime. Lose to the nuggets. Play well against the thunder. This is what they have been doing all season and why they are a few games above .500 60 games in.
the Lakers have been up and down all year, but they were 19-21 in mid January and are 15-8 since.  So that is a quarter of the season at a 53 to 54 win pace (they were also 24-25 and are 10-4 since, but that is a smaller sample size so i took the bigger one). They have 7 of their next 8 at home as well so they could keep it up even with playing some better teams in that stretch.  They then have a 6 game road trip in the central and Eastern time zones, though have several bad teams in it.

You can manipulate certain stretches of any season to make a team look like they are playing better or worse. In reality, a lot of it is scheduling and catching a few breaks (in your favor or against you). In this stretch the lakers have piled up some wins against the blazers, spurs, hornets, pistons, wizards and Knicks down multiple starters. They also had their inexplicable win against us without AD or Lebron. As the saying goes, you are what your record says you are and they are a pretty average team out west. This is a lot different than last year where they overturned half their roster before the deadline and their pieces fit together better after improving their chances. This team has been remarkably healthy in their top 4 all year and they really don’t have any new additions playing major minutes. What exactly would they have figured out? Is Lebron suddenly unlocking a new part of his game at 40? Is AD? And also to be fair, part of what was amusing about this is that there have been like 4 points this season we have had people saying “are the lakers figuring things out” on this thread (along with other teams). I guess I’m just ready for the playoffs to start. Also I do think with the right matchup the lakers could win a series and one of those good matchups for them
Is against the Thunder.
Russell has played pretty well over their last 23 games.  21.7 ppg, 6.4 apg, nearly 44% on 8.5 3's a game.  Before that he was 15.7 ppg, 6.1 apg, and under 40% on 5.5 3's a game.

Similarly, Reaves in that stretch is at 16.5 ppg, 6.3 apg, and just under 41% in 5.2 3's a game.  Before thst he was 15.2 ppg, 5.1 apg, and just 34.4% on 4.5 3's a game

Perhaps the Lakers have figured out how to more effectively use Russell and Reaves.  It is possible that it just took them some time to figure it out.   And it probably helped that the trade deadline has passed and they weren't hearing their names in rumors anymore.

And it isn't manipulation if you use the last 23 games. That is over a quarter of the season and is the most recent sample size.  Sure, they could revert back to a below .500 team they were for the first half or maybe they did actually figure some things out. Teams do grow during the year. It does happen.
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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3853 on: March 05, 2024, 12:01:49 PM »

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Lakers are starting to turn it on a bit here, absolutely crushing OKC in LA. They’ve beat some good teams now in the last week including the Clippers and Thunder, they also gave Denver a good run for their money until down the stretch.

Yup. The naysayers here were saying otherwise. They could be a 7th or 8th seed coming in looking to upset teams esp if they draw OKC or Minnesota. Never count out LeBron James and healthy AD in the postseason

lol some guys here want this to be true so bad. I do actually think they have a chance of beating OKC cause OKC was pretty dumb to not get a big body alongside Chet. AD just dominates Chet. But aside from that we are 60 games into the season teams aren’t suddenly turning things around without any roster changes. The lakers lose to the suns, have a nice win against the clippers, play terrible against wizards and squeak by in overtime. Lose to the nuggets. Play well against the thunder. This is what they have been doing all season and why they are a few games above .500 60 games in.
the Lakers have been up and down all year, but they were 19-21 in mid January and are 15-8 since.  So that is a quarter of the season at a 53 to 54 win pace (they were also 24-25 and are 10-4 since, but that is a smaller sample size so i took the bigger one). They have 7 of their next 8 at home as well so they could keep it up even with playing some better teams in that stretch.  They then have a 6 game road trip in the central and Eastern time zones, though have several bad teams in it.

You can manipulate certain stretches of any season to make a team look like they are playing better or worse. In reality, a lot of it is scheduling and catching a few breaks (in your favor or against you). In this stretch the lakers have piled up some wins against the blazers, spurs, hornets, pistons, wizards and Knicks down multiple starters. They also had their inexplicable win against us without AD or Lebron. As the saying goes, you are what your record says you are and they are a pretty average team out west. This is a lot different than last year where they overturned half their roster before the deadline and their pieces fit together better after improving their chances. This team has been remarkably healthy in their top 4 all year and they really don’t have any new additions playing major minutes. What exactly would they have figured out? Is Lebron suddenly unlocking a new part of his game at 40? Is AD? And also to be fair, part of what was amusing about this is that there have been like 4 points this season we have had people saying “are the lakers figuring things out” on this thread (along with other teams). I guess I’m just ready for the playoffs to start. Also I do think with the right matchup the lakers could win a series and one of those good matchups for them
Is against the Thunder.

OKC might be the only top 6 seed that I think LAL can beat in a playoff series.

Everyone else will make short work of LAL.
I know the regular season doesn't always translate to the post season but against the top 6 here are the Lakers records

Min 0-2
OKC 3-1
Den 0-3
LAC 3-1
NO 2-1
Pho 3-2

So they struggle against the 2 teams with real legit big men capable of pushing Davis around, but beat the more guard and wing centered teams.  That seems about right to me and come playoff time when Lebron goes full bore every game, I think that will magnify.

Denver is the only team the Lakers need to avoid and perhaps the Wolves (though they are young I think they could get Lebronned).  Everyone else they can at least hang with, if not outright beat.
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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3854 on: March 05, 2024, 12:30:33 PM »

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Lakers are starting to turn it on a bit here, absolutely crushing OKC in LA. They’ve beat some good teams now in the last week including the Clippers and Thunder, they also gave Denver a good run for their money until down the stretch.

Yup. The naysayers here were saying otherwise. They could be a 7th or 8th seed coming in looking to upset teams esp if they draw OKC or Minnesota. Never count out LeBron James and healthy AD in the postseason

lol some guys here want this to be true so bad. I do actually think they have a chance of beating OKC cause OKC was pretty dumb to not get a big body alongside Chet. AD just dominates Chet. But aside from that we are 60 games into the season teams aren’t suddenly turning things around without any roster changes. The lakers lose to the suns, have a nice win against the clippers, play terrible against wizards and squeak by in overtime. Lose to the nuggets. Play well against the thunder. This is what they have been doing all season and why they are a few games above .500 60 games in.
the Lakers have been up and down all year, but they were 19-21 in mid January and are 15-8 since.  So that is a quarter of the season at a 53 to 54 win pace (they were also 24-25 and are 10-4 since, but that is a smaller sample size so i took the bigger one). They have 7 of their next 8 at home as well so they could keep it up even with playing some better teams in that stretch.  They then have a 6 game road trip in the central and Eastern time zones, though have several bad teams in it.

You can manipulate certain stretches of any season to make a team look like they are playing better or worse. In reality, a lot of it is scheduling and catching a few breaks (in your favor or against you). In this stretch the lakers have piled up some wins against the blazers, spurs, hornets, pistons, wizards and Knicks down multiple starters. They also had their inexplicable win against us without AD or Lebron. As the saying goes, you are what your record says you are and they are a pretty average team out west. This is a lot different than last year where they overturned half their roster before the deadline and their pieces fit together better after improving their chances. This team has been remarkably healthy in their top 4 all year and they really don’t have any new additions playing major minutes. What exactly would they have figured out? Is Lebron suddenly unlocking a new part of his game at 40? Is AD? And also to be fair, part of what was amusing about this is that there have been like 4 points this season we have had people saying “are the lakers figuring things out” on this thread (along with other teams). I guess I’m just ready for the playoffs to start. Also I do think with the right matchup the lakers could win a series and one of those good matchups for them
Is against the Thunder.

OKC might be the only top 6 seed that I think LAL can beat in a playoff series.

Everyone else will make short work of LAL.
I know the regular season doesn't always translate to the post season but against the top 6 here are the Lakers records

Min 0-2
OKC 3-1
Den 0-3
LAC 3-1
NO 2-1
Pho 3-2

So they struggle against the 2 teams with real legit big men capable of pushing Davis around, but beat the more guard and wing centered teams.  That seems about right to me and come playoff time when Lebron goes full bore every game, I think that will magnify.

Denver is the only team the Lakers need to avoid and perhaps the Wolves (though they are young I think they could get Lebronned).  Everyone else they can at least hang with, if not outright beat.

It is not even a matter of not translating, they are literally worthless nowadays with how often players sit out unless you really dig into each individual matchups and see who really played (and even then it is very low value because the playoffs are a different game). To show how silly this is the Lakers wins over the Suns they never had their big 3 and Booker missed two of the three games. I don't think that really tells us anything about the matchup. The clippers one of the wins was before the Harden trade and last week they won with the Clippers lacking George and Zubac (and Zubac is absolutely critical against Davis as Theis and Plumlee is pretty brutal). I think it is fair to point out the Lakers have a very good matchup against OKC, and the clippers could always Clippers but the Lakers will be underdogs against whoever they face in the first round for a reason. It will also be interesting to see if they remain the healthiest or top 3 healthiest team in the league for their top 4 the rest of the season as well as guys are currently going down all over the league and Davis and Lebron are both injury risks playing a ton of minutes.