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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3675 on: February 27, 2024, 03:51:09 AM »

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Lamar Stevens playing pretty good at Memphis so far, just didn’t have the minutes here in Boston
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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3676 on: February 27, 2024, 06:07:26 AM »

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Lamar Stevens playing pretty good at Memphis so far, just didn’t have the minutes here in Boston
fools gold. Stevens is not good.
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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3677 on: February 27, 2024, 07:46:58 AM »

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Lamar Stevens playing pretty good at Memphis so far, just didn’t have the minutes here in Boston
fools gold. Stevens is not good.

He's definitely not "12 points, 7 rebounds on 60% shooting" good.

I think on most teams he can add value, though, especially because he's a good presence in the locker room.


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« Reply #3678 on: February 27, 2024, 08:27:40 AM »

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It's interesting...I remember when MJ's kids were going into college, Jeffrey didn't have much buzz around him as he never really showed anything remotely like his dad's ability in high school, so he ended up walking on at Illinois in 2007 or 2008 and he just petered out after that...his younger brother Marcus played for UCF a year or so after and he was better but nothing special. Both were a bit smaller than MJ physically, and clearly didn't have the drive their dad did. But because social media was in its infancy there wasn't this huge focus on them like Bronny has. Plus MJ had retired nearly a decade ago, so there was some separation between his career and that of his kids. LeBum's still playing right now, and is probably still better than Bronny right now.

Another difference is that MJ didn't publicly speak about his kids making the NBA.  I think Lebron is using his influence to make it easier for his kids to make it.  I understand the instinct, but has he thought things through?  Making the league when you clearly don't belong isn't doing anybody any good.  It's Lebron's dream to play alongside his kids.  I get how cool that moment would be for a dad, but ultimately I think it's going to set Bronny up for failure.


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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3679 on: February 27, 2024, 09:48:02 AM »

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It's gotta be rough being the child of an all-time great.  Even rougher when you're playing same sport that your parent did.

I'm sure some team will take a flyer on Bronny for the intent of getting Lebron there and the hoopla around the father/son story.  Sucks for Bronny more than anything.


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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3680 on: February 27, 2024, 10:01:25 AM »

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It's gotta be rough being the child of an all-time great.  Even rougher when you're playing same sport that your parent did.

I want somebody to dig into the psychology around Marcus Jordan dating Larsa Pippen.


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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3681 on: February 27, 2024, 10:40:58 AM »

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That says it all. They blew out Okc and Sac w/o him.

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« Reply #3682 on: February 27, 2024, 10:43:41 AM »

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It's interesting...I remember when MJ's kids were going into college, Jeffrey didn't have much buzz around him as he never really showed anything remotely like his dad's ability in high school, so he ended up walking on at Illinois in 2007 or 2008 and he just petered out after that...his younger brother Marcus played for UCF a year or so after and he was better but nothing special. Both were a bit smaller than MJ physically, and clearly didn't have the drive their dad did. But because social media was in its infancy there wasn't this huge focus on them like Bronny has. Plus MJ had retired nearly a decade ago, so there was some separation between his career and that of his kids. LeBum's still playing right now, and is probably still better than Bronny right now.

Another difference is that MJ didn't publicly speak about his kids making the NBA.  I think Lebron is using his influence to make it easier for his kids to make it.  I understand the instinct, but has he thought things through?  Making the league when you clearly don't belong isn't doing anybody any good.  It's Lebron's dream to play alongside his kids.  I get how cool that moment would be for a dad, but ultimately I think it's going to set Bronny up for failure.
Jordan's kids also weren't nearly as good as Lebron's kids are (Marcus was fine, Jeff was not good at all).  I don't know that it would make a difference for this discussion at all, but it is a clear difference. 
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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3683 on: February 28, 2024, 04:07:15 AM »

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First 20 games (Oct 12 to Jan 12) = 12.3mpg 3.3ppg on 28% FG% 24% 3PT% 1.2rpg 0.9apg 0.6 turnovers

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About half of his shots coming from 3 in both segments of the season. Obviously on a bit of a hot streak right now but nice to see his season pick up after not just a bad start but a stunningly awful start to his career. Still a bit worried about those low rebounding and assist numbers but he is showing he is a legit shooting & 3rd/4th scoring option.

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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3684 on: February 28, 2024, 06:06:34 AM »

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The beyond half court 3 from Strus to win the game was an amazing shot. 
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« Reply #3685 on: February 28, 2024, 06:12:39 AM »

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It's interesting...I remember when MJ's kids were going into college, Jeffrey didn't have much buzz around him as he never really showed anything remotely like his dad's ability in high school, so he ended up walking on at Illinois in 2007 or 2008 and he just petered out after that...his younger brother Marcus played for UCF a year or so after and he was better but nothing special. Both were a bit smaller than MJ physically, and clearly didn't have the drive their dad did. But because social media was in its infancy there wasn't this huge focus on them like Bronny has. Plus MJ had retired nearly a decade ago, so there was some separation between his career and that of his kids. LeBum's still playing right now, and is probably still better than Bronny right now.

Another difference is that MJ didn't publicly speak about his kids making the NBA.  I think Lebron is using his influence to make it easier for his kids to make it.  I understand the instinct, but has he thought things through?  Making the league when you clearly don't belong isn't doing anybody any good.  It's Lebron's dream to play alongside his kids.  I get how cool that moment would be for a dad, but ultimately I think it's going to set Bronny up for failure.

I can’t really relate to Lebron’s dream around playing with his kid. I think it’s most parents’ instinct to want something for your child  - happiness, success, contentment,… rather than something that is fulfilling for you.  Is it Bronny’s dream to play in the NBA with dad?  I’m sure it’s possible.  Some fathers-sons want to share their worlds with one another, some don’t.  But that wish should come from Bronny. Coming from Lebron it feels to me like asking your child to fulfill your own dream - which is something a parent, in any context, should think twice before burdening a child with.

Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3686 on: February 28, 2024, 07:54:05 AM »

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Cleveland and the Bucks in a really soft part of their schedule this week....Charlotte, Chicago, Detroit

Boston needs to win both these home games and then go 3-2 on the road trip if possible.


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« Reply #3687 on: February 28, 2024, 08:14:41 AM »

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The beyond half court 3 from Strus to win the game was an amazing shot.
Got a great photo out of it, too:
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« Reply #3688 on: February 28, 2024, 08:19:30 AM »

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It's interesting...I remember when MJ's kids were going into college, Jeffrey didn't have much buzz around him as he never really showed anything remotely like his dad's ability in high school, so he ended up walking on at Illinois in 2007 or 2008 and he just petered out after that...his younger brother Marcus played for UCF a year or so after and he was better but nothing special. Both were a bit smaller than MJ physically, and clearly didn't have the drive their dad did. But because social media was in its infancy there wasn't this huge focus on them like Bronny has. Plus MJ had retired nearly a decade ago, so there was some separation between his career and that of his kids. LeBum's still playing right now, and is probably still better than Bronny right now.

Another difference is that MJ didn't publicly speak about his kids making the NBA.  I think Lebron is using his influence to make it easier for his kids to make it.  I understand the instinct, but has he thought things through?  Making the league when you clearly don't belong isn't doing anybody any good.  It's Lebron's dream to play alongside his kids.  I get how cool that moment would be for a dad, but ultimately I think it's going to set Bronny up for failure.

I can’t really relate to Lebron’s dream around playing with his kid. I think it’s most parents’ instinct to want something for your child  - happiness, success, contentment,… rather than something that is fulfilling for you.  Is it Bronny’s dream to play in the NBA with dad?  I’m sure it’s possible.  Some fathers-sons want to share their worlds with one another, some don’t.  But that wish should come from Bronny. Coming from Lebron it feels to me like asking your child to fulfill your own dream - which is something a parent, in any context, should think twice before burdening a child with.
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« Reply #3689 on: February 28, 2024, 09:05:28 AM »

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It's interesting...I remember when MJ's kids were going into college, Jeffrey didn't have much buzz around him as he never really showed anything remotely like his dad's ability in high school, so he ended up walking on at Illinois in 2007 or 2008 and he just petered out after that...his younger brother Marcus played for UCF a year or so after and he was better but nothing special. Both were a bit smaller than MJ physically, and clearly didn't have the drive their dad did. But because social media was in its infancy there wasn't this huge focus on them like Bronny has. Plus MJ had retired nearly a decade ago, so there was some separation between his career and that of his kids. LeBum's still playing right now, and is probably still better than Bronny right now.

Another difference is that MJ didn't publicly speak about his kids making the NBA.  I think Lebron is using his influence to make it easier for his kids to make it.  I understand the instinct, but has he thought things through?  Making the league when you clearly don't belong isn't doing anybody any good.  It's Lebron's dream to play alongside his kids.  I get how cool that moment would be for a dad, but ultimately I think it's going to set Bronny up for failure.

I can’t really relate to Lebron’s dream around playing with his kid. I think it’s most parents’ instinct to want something for your child  - happiness, success, contentment,… rather than something that is fulfilling for you.  Is it Bronny’s dream to play in the NBA with dad?  I’m sure it’s possible.  Some fathers-sons want to share their worlds with one another, some don’t.  But that wish should come from Bronny. Coming from Lebron it feels to me like asking your child to fulfill your own dream - which is something a parent, in any context, should think twice before burdening a child with.
Well-stated.
I went into a similar line of work as my dad, but it was not the same, nor did he ever suggest it should be. He encouraged me to find my own path.
Sure, but I'm going to go out on a very sturdy limb and guess that your dad wasn't an NBA player. Important not just because most people aren't, but because it follows that almost anyone who has any interest in playing professional basketball likely wants to be a professional player in the NBA.

Now, if Bronny doesn't want to be a professional basketball player, at all, that's fine - as alluded to earlier, both of MJ's kids bailed halfway through their NCAA runs -- but the fact that the media is talking to LeBron instead of his kid is a bit of a non-issue, rather than a narrative we should care too much about.
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