2024 NBA Season and Playoffs

[Roy H.]

Relying on Ben Simmons is reason enough to fire a coach.

[SHAQATTACK]

Shams Charania
@ShamsCharania
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Sources: The Brooklyn Nets have fired head coach Jacque Vaughn.

Maybe MIL will fire Doc Rivers and then the Nets get their guy!

 

Read my mind

Besides ….its not Jacques fault Celtics are 100X better than the sucky Nets

[Phantom255x]

Relying on Ben Simmons is reason enough to fire a coach.

They should really fire the GM who even got Ben Simmons in the first place. What a colossal waste of space he is both on the sidelines and the payroll.

[BitterJim]

Relying on Ben Simmons is reason enough to fire a coach.

They should really fire the GM who even got Ben Simmons in the first place. What a colossal waste of space he is both on the sidelines and the payroll.

He was just matching salary for Harden. The two first rounders were the real return (well, probably 1 pick for Harden and 1 for taking on Simmons' contract). Not a great return, but there wasn't really a good solution there

Absorbing bad contracts like Simmons in exchange for a pick is a good move for a non-contending team.if they did it because they thought he'd help them win, then I would understand firing him, but I don't think they did.

[Redz]

Shams Charania
@ShamsCharania
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Sources: The Brooklyn Nets have fired head coach Jacque Vaughn.

Maybe MIL will fire Doc Rivers and then the Nets get their guy!

 

Read my mind

Besides ….its not Jacques fault Celtics are 100X better than the sucky Nets

Doc should leave on top.  Awkwardly coaching to the East to All Star supremacy.

[hpantazo]

Shams Charania
@ShamsCharania
·
1m
Sources: The Brooklyn Nets have fired head coach Jacque Vaughn.

Maybe MIL will fire Doc Rivers and then the Nets get their guy!

 

Read my mind

Besides ….its not Jacques fault Celtics are 100X better than the sucky Nets

Doc should leave on top.  Awkwardly coaching to the East to All Star supremacy.

Coach of the first NBA team to hit 200 points in a game, LOL

[Who]

Jacques Vaughn deserves to be fired. That Brooklyn Nets team is a 44-47 win caliber team and they are on track to finish with 32 wins at their current form. That is underperforming by 12-15 wins. It has been one of the worst if not the singular worst coaching jobs in the league this season. He deserved to be canned.

[BitterJim]

Shams Charania
@ShamsCharania
·
1m
Sources: The Brooklyn Nets have fired head coach Jacque Vaughn.

Maybe MIL will fire Doc Rivers and then the Nets get their guy!

 

Read my mind

Besides ….its not Jacques fault Celtics are 100X better than the sucky Nets

Doc should leave on top.  Awkwardly coaching to the East to All Star supremacy.

Coach of the first NBA team to hit 200 points in a game, LOL

Well, at least it's better than being the coach of the first team to give up 200 points in a game

[Who]

T'Wolves gave Mike Conley a 2yr $21mil extension.

Fair contract at his current level of play. Even 2yr $30mil would have been okay so slightly below current level of play. That said, 36 and a half years old. Two more years. As a small guard reliant on quickness. I wonder how good he'll be next season and the season after. Will he still be a starting caliber player? A 15-20mpg bench player?

[Moranis]

Jacques Vaughn deserves to be fired. That Brooklyn Nets team is a 44-47 win caliber team and they are on track to finish with 32 wins at their current form. That is underperforming by 12-15 wins. It has been one of the worst if not the singular worst coaching jobs in the league this season. He deserved to be canned.

No they aren't.  That team isn't very good at all.  Bridges is a 2nd level player.  They don't really have a 3rd level player. Outside of Bridges, they have a bunch of one dimensional players.  Vegas had them at 37.5 to start the year.  They are under that, but this is not a good team.

[Who]

Jacques Vaughn deserves to be fired. That Brooklyn Nets team is a 44-47 win caliber team and they are on track to finish with 32 wins at their current form. That is underperforming by 12-15 wins. It has been one of the worst if not the singular worst coaching jobs in the league this season. He deserved to be canned.

No they aren't.  That team isn't very good at all.  Bridges is a 2nd level player.  They don't really have a 3rd level player. Outside of Bridges, they have a bunch of one dimensional players.  Vegas had them at 37.5 to start the year.  They are under that, but this is not a good team.

Disagree. They are a team full of solid vets which is good enough to be .500. Mikal Bridges as you say is a borderline star or whatever pushes them up into that 44-47 win zone.

G: Dinwiddie, D Smith Jr
G: M Bridges, L Walker, Cam Thomas
F: Cam Johnson, Okogie
F: D Finney Smith, B Simmons
C: N Claxton, D Sharpe

That is a team that should be slightly above .500

[moiso]

Jacques Vaughn deserves to be fired. That Brooklyn Nets team is a 44-47 win caliber team and they are on track to finish with 32 wins at their current form. That is underperforming by 12-15 wins. It has been one of the worst if not the singular worst coaching jobs in the league this season. He deserved to be canned.

No they aren't.  That team isn't very good at all.  Bridges is a 2nd level player.  They don't really have a 3rd level player. Outside of Bridges, they have a bunch of one dimensional players.  Vegas had them at 37.5 to start the year.  They are under that, but this is not a good team.

Disagree. They are a team full of solid vets which is good enough to be .500. Mikal Bridges as you say is a borderline star or whatever pushes them up into that 44-47 win zone.

G: Dinwiddie, D Smith Jr
G: M Bridges, L Walker, Cam Thomas
F: Cam Johnson, Okogie
F: D Finney Smith, B Simmons
C: N Claxton, D Sharpe

That is a team that should be slightly above .500

That's a pretty crappy roster.  I can't  see any coach making it a .500 team.

[Phantom255x]

Jacques Vaughn deserves to be fired. That Brooklyn Nets team is a 44-47 win caliber team and they are on track to finish with 32 wins at their current form. That is underperforming by 12-15 wins. It has been one of the worst if not the singular worst coaching jobs in the league this season. He deserved to be canned.

No they aren't.  That team isn't very good at all.  Bridges is a 2nd level player.  They don't really have a 3rd level player. Outside of Bridges, they have a bunch of one dimensional players.  Vegas had them at 37.5 to start the year.  They are under that, but this is not a good team.

Disagree. They are a team full of solid vets which is good enough to be .500. Mikal Bridges as you say is a borderline star or whatever pushes them up into that 44-47 win zone.

G: Dinwiddie, D Smith Jr
G: M Bridges, L Walker, Cam Thomas
F: Cam Johnson, Okogie
F: D Finney Smith, B Simmons
C: N Claxton, D Sharpe

That is a team that should be slightly above .500

That's a pretty crappy roster.  I can't  see any coach making it a .500 team.

Yeah and also, relying on Ben Simmons for anything is a huge mistake. I love Bridges but at the same time I think the Nets overrate him. If teams truly have offered 4+ first rounders for him in trade packages (including a few unprotected) then the Nets are idiots for not doing it. They aren't gonna be in contention for a while.

Maybe the Nets have underachieved, but I can't fault Vaughn for that. Frankly, I think this puts into context how coaching is in the NBA. Everyone gets so mad at Joe Mazzulla for certain things especially after losses, but every coach gets scrutinized too. The only exceptions seem to be Spoelstra and I guess Popovich still. Griffin got canned from Milwaukee despite a 32-13 record lol. They are pretty easy scapegoats when players don't execute and/or front offices overrate players and the coaches are stuck with them

[Moranis]

Jacques Vaughn deserves to be fired. That Brooklyn Nets team is a 44-47 win caliber team and they are on track to finish with 32 wins at their current form. That is underperforming by 12-15 wins. It has been one of the worst if not the singular worst coaching jobs in the league this season. He deserved to be canned.

No they aren't.  That team isn't very good at all.  Bridges is a 2nd level player.  They don't really have a 3rd level player. Outside of Bridges, they have a bunch of one dimensional players.  Vegas had them at 37.5 to start the year.  They are under that, but this is not a good team.

Disagree. They are a team full of solid vets which is good enough to be .500. Mikal Bridges as you say is a borderline star or whatever pushes them up into that 44-47 win zone.

G: Dinwiddie, D Smith Jr
G: M Bridges, L Walker, Cam Thomas
F: Cam Johnson, Okogie
F: D Finney Smith, B Simmons
C: N Claxton, D Sharpe

That is a team that should be slightly above .500

That's a pretty crappy roster.  I can't  see any coach making it a .500 team.

exactly.  The Raptors have a better roster and a worse record and the Nets don't have a better roster than any team with a better record (except maybe the Jazz).  That roster isn't bottom of the barrel, but it is pretty clearly a well below .500 roster.  The Nets simply aren't good.

[Who]

Jacques Vaughn deserves to be fired. That Brooklyn Nets team is a 44-47 win caliber team and they are on track to finish with 32 wins at their current form. That is underperforming by 12-15 wins. It has been one of the worst if not the singular worst coaching jobs in the league this season. He deserved to be canned.

No they aren't.  That team isn't very good at all.  Bridges is a 2nd level player.  They don't really have a 3rd level player. Outside of Bridges, they have a bunch of one dimensional players.  Vegas had them at 37.5 to start the year.  They are under that, but this is not a good team.

Disagree. They are a team full of solid vets which is good enough to be .500. Mikal Bridges as you say is a borderline star or whatever pushes them up into that 44-47 win zone.

G: Dinwiddie, D Smith Jr
G: M Bridges, L Walker, Cam Thomas
F: Cam Johnson, Okogie
F: D Finney Smith, B Simmons
C: N Claxton, D Sharpe

That is a team that should be slightly above .500

That's a pretty crappy roster.  I can't  see any coach making it a .500 team.

exactly.  The Raptors have a better roster and a worse record and the Nets don't have a better roster than any team with a better record (except maybe the Jazz).  That roster isn't bottom of the barrel, but it is pretty clearly a well below .500 roster.  The Nets simply aren't good.

The Raptors are another team that have underachieved badly. Probably to a similar level as Brooklyn. Both should be 44-47 win teams and both are well below .500.

Toronto has or had a different type of roster than Brooklyn. Brooklyn had a lot of depth and balance with little high end talent (only Mikal Bridges). Toronto had high talent (Siakam, S Barnes, sort of Anunoby) but dodgy balance and depth. The Raptros had an overabundance of combo forwards, lack of shooters, only 1 PG (Schroder), only 1 center [same with with BKN, only area of BKN's squad that lacked depth]. But overall, I would rate the two squads as similar value rosters despite the Raptors having superior top end talent because of the Nets quality balance & depth.

A good coach could have done a lot more with both of those rosters. Both coaches deserved to be fired for bad job performance.