Celts, Pritchard talking extension; how much is he worth?

[Roy H.]

Payton Pritchard, Celtics talking extension

By trading Robert Williams instead of trying to package together the majority of the bench, the Celtics were able to maintain their prospect depth and build a bench for the future with Payton Pritchard, Sam Hauser and Jordan Walsh. The Celtics have opened extension talks with Pritchard but still have a gap to close to reach an agreement, according to sources briefed on the negotiations. – via Jared Weiss @ The Athletic

[Phantom255x]

I would give him something around 2/18M, or 3/27M. Some of that with incentives

I also look at it as a contract to potentially use in trades, since a lot of our guys on the roster now are making north of 30M a year so it'd be hard to salary match at deadlines and such

[Kuberski33]

If I had to guess, Brad wants to make a deal. PP wants to see how Joe uses him before committing to anything.

[radiohead]

This is interesting considering that Jrue and White (and JT for that matter) are due for extensions as well. Then first thing that came to my mind is why would PP want to extend if he’s been asking to be traded in the past? Would he be better of signing now as opposed to exploring free agency? I agree with Phantom, maybe it’s a double edged sword - one is he could be used as a trade piece to match contracts, and two maybe this is Brad rewarding him for staying the course and not being a distraction. Hopefully PP gets a decent payday, wether he stays a Celtic or not. 

[Kuberski33]

The landscape has changed and PP now has a fair amount of leverage. I do believe that most players are motivated mainly by the size of the paycheck so it would not at all be in his best interest to commit to an extension right now - or at all if he wants to bet on himself.

[Roy H.]

I have no idea what his market is.  T.J. McConnell is making around $8 million per season, and Jevon Carter is making $6.5 million.  I would assume that those guys are fair comparables.

[Who]

Minimum contract.

Until he shows he can do something else other than shoot open shots at a high level, he is not worth more than the minimum.

He has to improve something. Floor leaderership, passing, playmaking. Shot creation, driving ability. More prolific scoring. Defense. Something.

The player he is today and has been for his first 2 years is not worth more than the minimum. He has to prove himself before being given a contract worth more than that because frankly he has shown very little improvement to date.

[Surferdad]

I have no idea what his market is.  T.J. McConnell is making around $8 million per season, and Jevon Carter is making $6.5 million.  I would assume that those guys are fair comparables.

IMO, not even close, Roy. Those guys have proven to be productive NBA players, Payton hasn't shown squat. He's making $4M now which seems about right.

[Kuberski33]

I have no idea what his market is.  T.J. McConnell is making around $8 million per season, and Jevon Carter is making $6.5 million.  I would assume that those guys are fair comparables.

IMO, not even close, Roy. Those guys have proven to be productive NBA players, Payton hasn't shown squat. He's making $4M now which seems about right.

He's a productive regular season bench player whose ability to make 3's will come in handy. And based on limited experience he's a liability in the post season. He's probably worth what he's making now.  If he wants to improve on that, he'll need to bet on himself.

Brad probably wants to do 3 years somewhere around $14 million with a team option for the 4th year.

[Roy H.]

Minimum contract.

Until he shows he can do something else other than shoot open shots at a high level, he is not worth more than the minimum.

He has to improve something. Floor leaderership, passing, playmaking. Shot creation, driving ability. More prolific scoring. Defense. Something.

The player he is today and has been for his first 2 years is not worth more than the minimum. He has to prove himself before being given a contract worth more than that because frankly he has shown very little improvement to date.

Perhaps that's what he should be worth, but since the sides are having negotiations, the team has offered more than that.  I'm actually surprised that there are talks right now, because I don't think it's likely that Pritchard lands a lucrative offer in free agency.

But, as mentioned, Carter was a minimum player who ended up getting paid.  McConnell is still sought in trades despite his salary.  Cameron Payne went from 10-day deals to $6.25 million with the Suns.  I'm sure there are a lot of other examples.  It seems like a thin line between the minimum and a decent sub-MLE contract. 

If I'm Pritchard, if $5 million per season is on the table (the amount of the Taxpayer MLE) I'd take the money.

[Atzar]

Kind of think his 'worth' may have less to do with him as a player and more to do with the size of contract Brad wants on the books in order to preserve future trade flexibility.  Just a guess.

As a player, I think his lack of shot creation at the point guard position makes him a poor fit on most teams.  Our size and playmaking wings give us a chance to use him effectively, though.  So hopefully he can help us this year. 

[Kernewek]

Kind of think his 'worth' may have less to do with him as a player and more to do with the size of contract Brad wants on the books in order to preserve future trade flexibility.  Just a guess.

As a player, I think his lack of shot creation at the point guard position makes him a poor fit on most teams.  Our size and playmaking wings give us a chance to use him effectively, though.  So hopefully he can help us this year.

If nothing else changes with the roster he will certainly be able to earn some minutes, at least.

[Celtics4ever]

Pritchard has proven nothing other than he can come into a game cold and shoot.  He is small and a liability on D.

He will get the Grant treatment, I wager.  Unless he really lights it up this year but will Maz even trust him enough to see that happen.

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[Who]

I'd like to see the team replace Pritchard in the rotation with either a big guard or a legit wing player. Keep Jrue or D White at PG at all times in the wing player case.

Go bigger on the perimeter defense. Especially since we are smaller up front now. The bigs need more help from their forwards and guards defensively & rebounding wise. Pritchard cannot supply that.

I would be looking to trade Pritchard. Not sign him to an extension.

[Roy H.]

Pritchard had an interesting year last season.

His overall shooting numbers turned out okay:  36.4% 3PT%, .527 eFG%

But that's a bit deceiving.  He was aided by a really great two-game stretch in April, when he went 13-for-24 on 3PTs.  Prior to those two games, he was at 33.1% 3PT% for the season.  That's pretty bad for a guy who doesn't contribute much more than shooting.