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Re: NFL 2023 Season
« Reply #150 on: October 08, 2023, 09:54:51 PM »

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Ravens are so inconsistent.  Sometimes look like the best team in the sport.  Other times look like a Junior High team.  So frustrating to watch.

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Re: NFL 2023 Season
« Reply #151 on: October 08, 2023, 10:11:20 PM »

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Re: NFL 2023 Season
« Reply #152 on: October 08, 2023, 11:07:31 PM »

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Re: NFL 2023 Season
« Reply #153 on: October 09, 2023, 09:21:30 AM »

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Ravens are so inconsistent.  Sometimes look like the best team in the sport.  Other times look like a Junior High team.  So frustrating to watch.

The clear solution is to fire Harbaugh
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Re: NFL 2023 Season
« Reply #154 on: October 09, 2023, 10:10:23 AM »

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I feel like I always say this, but if the Niners can't win it all this year then idk when. That team is absolutely loaded, even with Darnold at the helm they could do well. They are also one of the only ones where I feel it's fully balanced (offense AND defense are awesome/elite both)
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Re: NFL 2023 Season
« Reply #155 on: October 09, 2023, 10:14:17 AM »

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Ravens are so inconsistent.  Sometimes look like the best team in the sport.  Other times look like a Junior High team.  So frustrating to watch.

The clear solution is to fire Harbaugh

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Re: NFL 2023 Season
« Reply #156 on: October 09, 2023, 11:17:08 AM »

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Ravens are so inconsistent.  Sometimes look like the best team in the sport.  Other times look like a Junior High team.  So frustrating to watch.

The clear solution is to fire Harbaugh

Absolutely.
may have to come to that as they are rather undisciplined. Definitely need a new training staff as they always have so many injuries as well.
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Re: NFL 2023 Season
« Reply #157 on: October 09, 2023, 12:04:32 PM »

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I feel like I always say this, but if the Niners can't win it all this year then idk when. That team is absolutely loaded, even with Darnold at the helm they could do well. They are also one of the only ones where I feel it's fully balanced (offense AND defense are awesome/elite both)

Injuries derailed them last season. But I feel the Eagles might make it back again. They're too good as well.

The AFC is more unpredictable. Maybe the Dolphins will make noise. If Travis Kelce is getting hurt a lot then KC is in trouble. I don't buy Buffalo nor Baltimore. Chargers will find ways to Charger themselves. Jags ain't ready.


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Re: NFL 2023 Season
« Reply #158 on: October 09, 2023, 12:42:46 PM »

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Ravens are so inconsistent.  Sometimes look like the best team in the sport.  Other times look like a Junior High team.  So frustrating to watch.

The clear solution is to fire Harbaugh

Absolutely.

Hope they do, because he can drive right on down the beltway and we’ll welcome him on the skins *ahem* commanders, with open arms.
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Re: NFL 2023 Season
« Reply #159 on: October 09, 2023, 12:54:16 PM »

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Ravens are so inconsistent.  Sometimes look like the best team in the sport.  Other times look like a Junior High team.  So frustrating to watch.

The clear solution is to fire Harbaugh

Absolutely.
may have to come to that as they are rather undisciplined. Definitely need a new training staff as they always have so many injuries as well.

Harbaugh is one of the more overrated coaches in the league. One Super bowl win during the best month of Joe Flacco's life. Other than that, a lot of disappointment with that loaded defense.
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Re: NFL 2023 Season
« Reply #160 on: October 09, 2023, 04:48:41 PM »

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Ravens are so inconsistent.  Sometimes look like the best team in the sport.  Other times look like a Junior High team.  So frustrating to watch.

The clear solution is to fire Harbaugh

Absolutely.
may have to come to that as they are rather undisciplined. Definitely need a new training staff as they always have so many injuries as well.

Harbaugh is one of the more overrated coaches in the league. One Super bowl win during the best month of Joe Flacco's life. Other than that, a lot of disappointment with that loaded defense.
Sure, but how many coaches can win with Joe Flacco and Tyler Huntley.  3 healthy seasons from Lamar in his first 3 seasons, has been the extent of his top 10 QB play.  As you say, Flacco had a month of top 10 play and they won the Superbowl.  I think you may actually be providing support that Harbaugh is not overrated
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Re: NFL 2023 Season
« Reply #161 on: October 09, 2023, 04:52:34 PM »

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Ravens are so inconsistent.  Sometimes look like the best team in the sport.  Other times look like a Junior High team.  So frustrating to watch.

The clear solution is to fire Harbaugh

Absolutely.
may have to come to that as they are rather undisciplined. Definitely need a new training staff as they always have so many injuries as well.

Harbaugh is one of the more overrated coaches in the league. One Super bowl win during the best month of Joe Flacco's life. Other than that, a lot of disappointment with that loaded defense.
Sure, but how many coaches can win with Joe Flacco and Tyler Huntley.  3 healthy seasons from Lamar in his first 3 seasons, has been the extent of his top 10 QB play.  As you say, Flacco had a month of top 10 play and they won the Superbowl.  I think you may actually be providing support that Harbaugh is not overrated

Ravens had a very loaded smashmouth defense in Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Terrell Suggs, Haloti Ngata, Bernard Pollard etc. Their D carried them all the way


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Re: NFL 2023 Season
« Reply #162 on: October 09, 2023, 05:13:21 PM »

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Ravens are so inconsistent.  Sometimes look like the best team in the sport.  Other times look like a Junior High team.  So frustrating to watch.

The clear solution is to fire Harbaugh

Absolutely.
may have to come to that as they are rather undisciplined. Definitely need a new training staff as they always have so many injuries as well.

Harbaugh is one of the more overrated coaches in the league. One Super bowl win during the best month of Joe Flacco's life. Other than that, a lot of disappointment with that loaded defense.
Sure, but how many coaches can win with Joe Flacco and Tyler Huntley.  3 healthy seasons from Lamar in his first 3 seasons, has been the extent of his top 10 QB play.  As you say, Flacco had a month of top 10 play and they won the Superbowl.  I think you may actually be providing support that Harbaugh is not overrated

Ravens had a very loaded smashmouth defense in Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Terrell Suggs, Haloti Ngata, Bernard Pollard etc. Their D carried them all the way
Yes and they did well, but a qb decidedly in the middle of the road is hard to win playoff games at a high level with.  Harbaugh's first 5 years which correlate to his only seasons with Lewis and Flacco's 1st 5 seasons, the Ravens were 54 and 26 in the regular season and 9-4 in the playoffs with 1 SB and 2 other AFC title games (they won at least 1 playoff game each season).  The last year is the SB year and the defense which top 3 the first 4 years fell to 12th in points and 17th in yards, but Flacco was amazing so they won it.  The defense was middle of the road during basically the remainder of Flacco's time as he did not live up to the big contract which caused a salary crunch.  Defense has been very good with Lamar, but Lamar has been awful in the playoffs and hurt at the end of the last 2 years. A lot of the inconsistency is Lamar, as is a lot ofnthe record inconsistency.  To win a lot of playoff games, you need elite QB play, and the Ravens haven't had that since Flacco was on a rookie contract.  Now is some of that on Harbaugh, maybe so, especially since Lamar has real talent, but his throwing is not elite either and never will be.

If you don't have consistently great QB play, you aren't going to win a lot of playoff games, but Harbaugh is 150-97 overall with still most of his games being with Joe Flacco at QB.  Sean Payton, with almost entirely Drew Brees in NO was 152-89 as a point of comparison.
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Re: NFL 2023 Season
« Reply #163 on: October 09, 2023, 08:33:59 PM »

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Ravens are so inconsistent.  Sometimes look like the best team in the sport.  Other times look like a Junior High team.  So frustrating to watch.

The clear solution is to fire Harbaugh

Absolutely.
may have to come to that as they are rather undisciplined. Definitely need a new training staff as they always have so many injuries as well.

Harbaugh is one of the more overrated coaches in the league. One Super bowl win during the best month of Joe Flacco's life. Other than that, a lot of disappointment with that loaded defense.
Sure, but how many coaches can win with Joe Flacco and Tyler Huntley.  3 healthy seasons from Lamar in his first 3 seasons, has been the extent of his top 10 QB play.  As you say, Flacco had a month of top 10 play and they won the Superbowl.  I think you may actually be providing support that Harbaugh is not overrated

Ravens had a very loaded smashmouth defense in Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Terrell Suggs, Haloti Ngata, Bernard Pollard etc. Their D carried them all the way
Yes and they did well, but a qb decidedly in the middle of the road is hard to win playoff games at a high level with.  Harbaugh's first 5 years which correlate to his only seasons with Lewis and Flacco's 1st 5 seasons, the Ravens were 54 and 26 in the regular season and 9-4 in the playoffs with 1 SB and 2 other AFC title games (they won at least 1 playoff game each season).  The last year is the SB year and the defense which top 3 the first 4 years fell to 12th in points and 17th in yards, but Flacco was amazing so they won it.  The defense was middle of the road during basically the remainder of Flacco's time as he did not live up to the big contract which caused a salary crunch.  Defense has been very good with Lamar, but Lamar has been awful in the playoffs and hurt at the end of the last 2 years. A lot of the inconsistency is Lamar, as is a lot ofnthe record inconsistency.  To win a lot of playoff games, you need elite QB play, and the Ravens haven't had that since Flacco was on a rookie contract.  Now is some of that on Harbaugh, maybe so, especially since Lamar has real talent, but his throwing is not elite either and never will be.

If you don't have consistently great QB play, you aren't going to win a lot of playoff games, but Harbaugh is 150-97 overall with still most of his games being with Joe Flacco at QB.  Sean Payton, with almost entirely Drew Brees in NO was 152-89 as a point of comparison.

Nah, they should have won more with that defense. They underacheived.
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Re: NFL 2023 Season
« Reply #164 on: October 09, 2023, 09:06:45 PM »

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Ravens are so inconsistent.  Sometimes look like the best team in the sport.  Other times look like a Junior High team.  So frustrating to watch.

The clear solution is to fire Harbaugh

Absolutely.
may have to come to that as they are rather undisciplined. Definitely need a new training staff as they always have so many injuries as well.

Harbaugh is one of the more overrated coaches in the league. One Super bowl win during the best month of Joe Flacco's life. Other than that, a lot of disappointment with that loaded defense.
Sure, but how many coaches can win with Joe Flacco and Tyler Huntley.  3 healthy seasons from Lamar in his first 3 seasons, has been the extent of his top 10 QB play.  As you say, Flacco had a month of top 10 play and they won the Superbowl.  I think you may actually be providing support that Harbaugh is not overrated

Ravens had a very loaded smashmouth defense in Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Terrell Suggs, Haloti Ngata, Bernard Pollard etc. Their D carried them all the way
Yes and they did well, but a qb decidedly in the middle of the road is hard to win playoff games at a high level with.  Harbaugh's first 5 years which correlate to his only seasons with Lewis and Flacco's 1st 5 seasons, the Ravens were 54 and 26 in the regular season and 9-4 in the playoffs with 1 SB and 2 other AFC title games (they won at least 1 playoff game each season).  The last year is the SB year and the defense which top 3 the first 4 years fell to 12th in points and 17th in yards, but Flacco was amazing so they won it.  The defense was middle of the road during basically the remainder of Flacco's time as he did not live up to the big contract which caused a salary crunch.  Defense has been very good with Lamar, but Lamar has been awful in the playoffs and hurt at the end of the last 2 years. A lot of the inconsistency is Lamar, as is a lot ofnthe record inconsistency.  To win a lot of playoff games, you need elite QB play, and the Ravens haven't had that since Flacco was on a rookie contract.  Now is some of that on Harbaugh, maybe so, especially since Lamar has real talent, but his throwing is not elite either and never will be.

If you don't have consistently great QB play, you aren't going to win a lot of playoff games, but Harbaugh is 150-97 overall with still most of his games being with Joe Flacco at QB.  Sean Payton, with almost entirely Drew Brees in NO was 152-89 as a point of comparison.

Nah, they should have won more with that defense. They underacheived.
That just isn't reality.  They won at least 1 playoff game 5 straight years with Harbaugh when they had a top tier defense.  Then the defense was good but not great for 5 years before becoming a top 5 defense again Lamar's rookie year (you know after Flacco's huge contract expired and they could spend real money on the defense again).  And Lamar has been atrocious in the playoffs in his 4 games.  Not good at all, which is why they haven't won more with Lamar.

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