Patriots 2023 Season

[ozgod]

I fear for the future of whatever QB prospect we take with this organizations history at surrounding them with talent. Almost all blue chip QB prospects get some kind of elite target. If we didn't put one next to Mac, is that the same plan going forward?

They also need to give him decent protection and not an O line of turnstiles. I feel like that more than anything was a major contributor to Mac’s self destruction. When you’re worried about getting hit all the time you start to make bad decisions.

[Phantom255x]

So does anyone actually still think Belichick will be here in 2024? Because if so, then sorry we're in trouble. The entire operation has been super dysfunctional and the roster lacks a ton of talent, which I mostly put on the GM (Belichick). And Belichick's snarky responses to the media only works when you win.

And sorry, but the QB isn't the only problem. If you draft someone like Maye but they are playing behind this O-Line, with Parker/Thornton/JuJu as receivers, bad special teams and a team that lacks fundamentals and commits many penalties, then how successful can he really be?

There's no reason Belichick shouldn't be canned at least 48 hours after the season officially ends ("Black Monday"). Again, this team is 2-10, and since Brady left they are 27-36 and gradually getting worse.

I think Kraft is gonna get A TON of criticism if he keeps Belichick around. Yesterday's Gillette stadium "crowd" and atmosphere is gonna become the norm in 2024 if this continues.

[green_bballers13]

BB should be given an opportunity to resign the second the season is over. Kraft should agree to pay out his contract (BB has made Kraft a lot of money), and should help facilitate a move to the Chargers or whatever team he wants. These discussions should be going on now, allowing the team to move seamlessly to get young, talented coaches and a GM.
 
If BB puts up a fuss, fire him and his useless sons.

[SparzWizard]

Stevenson out a few weeks with high ankle sprain. Lol zero offense now.

[Vermont Green]

So does anyone actually still think Belichick will be here in 2024? Because if so, then sorry we're in trouble. The entire operation has been super dysfunctional and the roster lacks a ton of talent, which I mostly put on the GM (Belichick). And Belichick's snarky responses to the media only works when you win.

And sorry, but the QB isn't the only problem. If you draft someone like Maye but they are playing behind this O-Line, with Parker/Thornton/JuJu as receivers, bad special teams and a team that lacks fundamentals and commits many penalties, then how successful can he really be?

There's no reason Belichick shouldn't be canned at least 48 hours after the season officially ends ("Black Monday"). Again, this team is 2-10, and since Brady left they are 27-36 and gradually getting worse.

I think Kraft is gonna get A TON of criticism if he keeps Belichick around. Yesterday's Gillette stadium "crowd" and atmosphere is gonna become the norm in 2024 if this continues.

I agree with your discussion but not your conclusion.  I agree that the OL does need to be improved, but I don't think it is that far away.  OL tend to look really bad right up until they look fine.   A good draft pick, a FA, and the OL can be fine.

Same with the receivers.  Get the OL shored up, a QB that is not in the midst of a nervous breakdown, and even these receivers would look a lot better.  Maybe get Bourne back, replace Thornton, and I think the receivers are fine.

That leaves the QB.  Hard to count on a rookie being good right from the start.  Not sure how they can solve the QB for next season.

[Moranis]

The Pats receivers are not fine, but simply by adding a true #1, they'd improve immensely.  They need a guy that can put pressure on the opposing secondary, lessen the role of the other receivers, and serve as a safety net for the QB. They have no one even close to that on the roster, but there are usually a couple of veteran guys available every off season and a couple of future #1's in basically every draft (MHJ may even come immediately this draft and be that guy from the jump).  They should have signed Hopkins.  Not what he once was, but still a back end #1. He'd have helped a lot.

[Roy H.]

The Pats receivers are not fine, but simply by adding a true #1, they'd improve immensely.  They need a guy that can put pressure on the opposing secondary, lessen the role of the other receivers, and serve as a safety net for the QB. They have no one even close to that on the roster, but there are usually a couple of veteran guys available every off season and a couple of future #1's in basically every draft (MHJ may even come immediately this draft and be that guy from the jump).  They should have signed Hopkins.  Not what he once was, but still a back end #1. He'd have helped a lot.

Can they afford to take Harrison?  No doubt he's a game changer, but without a QB how much would he help the Pats?

[Donoghus]

The Pats receivers are not fine, but simply by adding a true #1, they'd improve immensely.  They need a guy that can put pressure on the opposing secondary, lessen the role of the other receivers, and serve as a safety net for the QB. They have no one even close to that on the roster, but there are usually a couple of veteran guys available every off season and a couple of future #1's in basically every draft (MHJ may even come immediately this draft and be that guy from the jump).  They should have signed Hopkins.  Not what he once was, but still a back end #1. He'd have helped a lot.

Can they afford to take Harrison?  No doubt he's a game changer, but without a QB how much would he help the Pats?

They could take him then take a lower tier QB in round 2 or 3.

Still doesn't address the glaring OL need, though. They really need to address that.

[Celtics2021]

The Pats receivers are not fine, but simply by adding a true #1, they'd improve immensely.  They need a guy that can put pressure on the opposing secondary, lessen the role of the other receivers, and serve as a safety net for the QB. They have no one even close to that on the roster, but there are usually a couple of veteran guys available every off season and a couple of future #1's in basically every draft (MHJ may even come immediately this draft and be that guy from the jump).  They should have signed Hopkins.  Not what he once was, but still a back end #1. He'd have helped a lot.

Can they afford to take Harrison?  No doubt he's a game changer, but without a QB how much would he help the Pats?

They’re more than a player away.  I’d take Harrison, continue to suck, and get the QB in 2025 when you’re at the top of the draft again.

[johnnygreen]

The Patriots have to either draft an elite receiver or trade for one. I can't see a free agent coming here, based on the lack of offensive talent. Personally, I think Marvin Harrison Jr is the best player in the draft and that is who I would take. I fear taking a QB that high would be a wasted draft pick, based on the poor offensive line and WR's.

[ozgod]

I'm worried we might get lucky and beat the Squealers...their QB, some no name guy, just underwent surgery 

[jambr380]

So does anyone actually still think Belichick will be here in 2024? Because if so, then sorry we're in trouble. The entire operation has been super dysfunctional and the roster lacks a ton of talent, which I mostly put on the GM (Belichick). And Belichick's snarky responses to the media only works when you win.

And sorry, but the QB isn't the only problem. If you draft someone like Maye but they are playing behind this O-Line, with Parker/Thornton/JuJu as receivers, bad special teams and a team that lacks fundamentals and commits many penalties, then how successful can he really be?

There's no reason Belichick shouldn't be canned at least 48 hours after the season officially ends ("Black Monday"). Again, this team is 2-10, and since Brady left they are 27-36 and gradually getting worse.

I think Kraft is gonna get A TON of criticism if he keeps Belichick around. Yesterday's Gillette stadium "crowd" and atmosphere is gonna become the norm in 2024 if this continues.

I really hope he is still here. He absolutely deserves to coach here for as long as he wants. If you want to have somebody take over the draft and GM duties for him, then fine, but firing Bill would be ridiculous.

The Spurs didn't can Popovich and outside fans aren't questioning that decision. The team never bottomed out. We went with Cam and then Mac even made the Pro-Bowl his rookie year because the team was still aging out (no, I'm not saying we should keep Mac). This isn't going to turn around overnight, but oh well, I am thankful we had so many legendary years with Bill at the helm.

[kraidstar]

The Pats receivers are not fine, but simply by adding a true #1, they'd improve immensely.  They need a guy that can put pressure on the opposing secondary, lessen the role of the other receivers, and serve as a safety net for the QB. They have no one even close to that on the roster, but there are usually a couple of veteran guys available every off season and a couple of future #1's in basically every draft (MHJ may even come immediately this draft and be that guy from the jump).  They should have signed Hopkins.  Not what he once was, but still a back end #1. He'd have helped a lot.

They could have resigned Meyers AND added Hopkins easily enough. And even one additional decent o-lineman woukd have helped. Maybe an actual right tsckle. What we've been witnessing is GM malpractice.

[Moranis]

The Pats receivers are not fine, but simply by adding a true #1, they'd improve immensely.  They need a guy that can put pressure on the opposing secondary, lessen the role of the other receivers, and serve as a safety net for the QB. They have no one even close to that on the roster, but there are usually a couple of veteran guys available every off season and a couple of future #1's in basically every draft (MHJ may even come immediately this draft and be that guy from the jump).  They should have signed Hopkins.  Not what he once was, but still a back end #1. He'd have helped a lot.

They could have resigned Meyers AND added Hopkins easily enough. And even one additional decent o-lineman woukd have helped. Maybe an actual right tsckle. What we've been witnessing is GM malpractice.

I've been saying this stuff for 2 years.  Glad to see others have finally come around.  Bill is a horrid GM and is not a good head coach at this point.  Still a great defensive coach, he just can't run the show.  If he does leave New England for another job this summer, that will bear itself out again.

[celticsclay]

The Pats receivers are not fine, but simply by adding a true #1, they'd improve immensely.  They need a guy that can put pressure on the opposing secondary, lessen the role of the other receivers, and serve as a safety net for the QB. They have no one even close to that on the roster, but there are usually a couple of veteran guys available every off season and a couple of future #1's in basically every draft (MHJ may even come immediately this draft and be that guy from the jump).  They should have signed Hopkins.  Not what he once was, but still a back end #1. He'd have helped a lot.

They could have resigned Meyers AND added Hopkins easily enough. And even one additional decent o-lineman woukd have helped. Maybe an actual right tsckle. What we've been witnessing is GM malpractice.

I've been saying this stuff for 2 years.  Glad to see others have finally come around.  Bill is a horrid GM and is not a good head coach at this point.  Still a great defensive coach, he just can't run the show.  If he does leave New England for another job this summer, that will bear itself out again.

It’s been a real treat having your brilliant takes on the pats these last few years. Your win prediction last year was absolutely legendary. Can’t believe we survived all these years without your brilliance to guide us and help us understand our stupid organization that never wins anything.