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Re: Bronny James has cardiac arrest - is recovering
« Reply #105 on: April 07, 2024, 08:41:36 PM »

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What rule is being broken?

Is there are a rule that is being broken? Or do people think there should be a rule created to stop this from happening?

I am not sure what rule is being broken here.

A player under contract with one team can not negotiate with another team about future contracts. This is like the most basic rule of tampering. In this instance, Lebron can’t tell Philly he will sign with them for cheap if they draft his son. It would be a very clear cut example of tampering. What in the world is going on with this thread lol.

LeBron has not negotiated with any team. He has had no contact with Philadelphia. He has had no direct contact with any individual team. There is no tampering.

Re: Bronny James has cardiac arrest - is recovering
« Reply #106 on: April 07, 2024, 08:45:28 PM »

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Rob Parker saying that NBA Draft this year may be Bronny's only option of making it to the NBA because he cannot afford to return to college and risk having another bad season. Another season like this one would end his NBA dreams. But if he goes now, someone may take a shot on him.

Interesting viewpoint.

He would probably make more money in NIL than as a second round pick in the 50’s (which even then would not be on merit). I don’t know if the people saying this stuff realize he was a historically bad shooter his freshman year. You can’t do that as an undersized guard.
Do you really think money is a concern?  He's listed at 6'4" 210lbs.  That isn't undersized for a guard.  If Lebron is serious about taking a significant discount in order to play on the same team with his son, some teams (e.g. Sixers and Clips) should consider using a late 1st on Bronny.

I think he is closer to 6’3 I actually saw him at a game In person and he is not a big dude. He also is not a point guard he plays more like a shooting guard/small forward he is objectively small for how he plays. Dont really think this part is debatable. You also glossed over the most key part that he is a horrible shooter which is a problem for a guard of any size (27% from college three is like Andre Drummond shooting threes who shot 29% the one year he shot 1.5 per game.) And yea like I said it would probably warrant an investigation from the league if the lakers or Philly wasted a first round pick on him to get Lebron for cheap. That is the definition of rule break and would warrant a penalty on par with what the wolves got for Joe smith. I’m surprised anyone that is an nba fan would want a team to draft a guy that is not a top 100 prospect right now for the draft and giving him multiple guaranteed years of salary to get another star player at a discount. That’s just terrible for the league and also humiliating to Bronny to be used as a prop for that.

For all the reasons I have mentioned he probably won’t enter the draft but it is very baffling to me the amount of people that think teams just draft there friends homies and punt a first round pick. With the cba the first round picks are as valuable as ever. The league also wants to be run in a respectable manner.
If Lebron doesn't pick up his option and becomes a free agent and continues to say he'd take less money to play with Bronny, what rule is being broken if a team goes by his public statements and drafts Bronny?  Even if there is a bit of communication through the agent, how is the NBA going to prove it?  Late 1st round picks aren't that valuable.  Would it make you feel better if Bronny is taken in the 2nd like Giannis' brothers? 

I don't want it to happen but I'm not going to be surprised if it does happen.  Desperate team owners will do what it takes to win a championship.

Do you really not understand how a player saying I will opt out and take an under value contract with your team if you draft my son while he is under contract with the lakers breaks like 15 rules? Come on tazz this is objectively getting pretty dumb here.

And yes I have said it would still stink, but it is least tolerable if someone takes a flier on him late in the second because teams do waste those picks or take fliers on foreign players that may never come over. They are not even guaranteed money. The first round though is absolutely ridiculous and like I said would warrant an investigation.

It’s not the teams fault that Lebron is running his mouth.  If someone would be punished the league can only look at Lebron unless they can prove a private conversation took place with one of these teams.  Doubtful any kind of tampering investigation would take place, Lebrons mission to play with his son has been common knowledge for years now. 

Players conspiring to play together is so much worse than this IMO, and the league has barely acknowledged it.

That being said, If the kid gets drafted this year it’ll be embarrassing for Bronny and the league though IMO

Kind of baffled by the amount of people that aren’t getting what’s illegal here/basic cba stuff. Bronny is not a top 100 prospect and seems very unlikely to be an nba player. If you draft him in the first round (and some of these teams being mentioned like Philly or lakers) will likely have a pick at 18-22. Those picks come with guaranteed money of 6-9 million over 2-3years. For a team like Philly counting every single dollar to get max cap space or dealing with luxury tax they aren’t going to commit up to 9 million dollars without some assurance that Lebron will sign there for cheap, which is illegal because Lebron is under contract with lakers.  This is why the league would absolutely investigate it. This really isn’t hard.
Please point to the rule preventing Lebron from saying, which I think he already has said or at least implied, that he'll take less to play on the same team with Bronny.  Please point to the rule that prevents Lebron from taking less than he is worth to play wherever he wants.  The league can investigate whatever they want but it only matters what they can prove.  The league investigated Harden taking less to sign with the Sixers but couldn't prove there was any illegal deal in place. 

I said late 1st not mid 1st.  I'd envision the Sixers trading down.  Or like the Lakers and Clippers who don't have 1st rounders, they could trade into the late 1st.  However, the Sixers have the 41st pick so they could just use it on Bronny.

If you are going to move the goalposts and say whether they will be able to prove it. That is a different conversation. But I pointed out why it is clearly illegal and you said it wouldn’t even get an investigation so you are back pedaling faster than Mac jones behind our o line last year. (Which I get cause your original comments were clearly ridiculous). I would be very happy to make a massive Tommy point bet he won’t get drafted in the first. I don’t think he will even be in this draft. Just would like people to have a fundamental understanding of basic cba stuff and how contracts work.

Re: Bronny James has cardiac arrest - is recovering
« Reply #107 on: April 07, 2024, 09:00:25 PM »

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What rule is being broken?

Is there are a rule that is being broken? Or do people think there should be a rule created to stop this from happening?

I am not sure what rule is being broken here.

A player under contract with one team can not negotiate with another team about future contracts. This is like the most basic rule of tampering. In this instance, Lebron can’t tell Philly he will sign with them for cheap if they draft his son. It would be a very clear cut example of tampering. What in the world is going on with this thread lol.

LeBron has not negotiated with any team. He has had no contact with Philadelphia. He has had no direct contact with any individual team. There is no tampering.

It doesn’t seem like you are really keeping up with the conversation. If Philly drafted Bronny because lebron promised them he would sign with them that would unequivocally be tampering. That was what was being discussed. Obviously if he doesn’t do that it isn’t. Let’s try to not just muddle the conversation cause this is a very black and white case.

Re: Bronny James has cardiac arrest - is recovering
« Reply #108 on: April 07, 2024, 09:04:28 PM »

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What rule is being broken?

Is there are a rule that is being broken? Or do people think there should be a rule created to stop this from happening?

I am not sure what rule is being broken here.

A player under contract with one team can not negotiate with another team about future contracts. This is like the most basic rule of tampering. In this instance, Lebron can’t tell Philly he will sign with them for cheap if they draft his son. It would be a very clear cut example of tampering. What in the world is going on with this thread lol.

LeBron has not negotiated with any team. He has had no contact with Philadelphia. He has had no direct contact with any individual team. There is no tampering.

It doesn’t seem like you are really keeping up with the conversation. If Philly drafted Bronny because lebron promised them he would sign with them that would unequivocally be tampering. That was what was being discussed. Obviously if he doesn’t do that it isn’t. Let’s try to not just muddle the conversation cause this is a very black and white case.

Okay. So then there is direct contact and clear tampering. Agreed.

And if Philly drafts Bronny without LeBron promising to join but just based on his comments in the media thus far, there is no tampering.

Re: Bronny James has cardiac arrest - is recovering
« Reply #109 on: April 07, 2024, 09:59:34 PM »

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What rule is being broken?

Is there are a rule that is being broken? Or do people think there should be a rule created to stop this from happening?

I am not sure what rule is being broken here.

A player under contract with one team can not negotiate with another team about future contracts. This is like the most basic rule of tampering. In this instance, Lebron can’t tell Philly he will sign with them for cheap if they draft his son. It would be a very clear cut example of tampering. What in the world is going on with this thread lol.

LeBron has not negotiated with any team. He has had no contact with Philadelphia. He has had no direct contact with any individual team. There is no tampering.

It doesn’t seem like you are really keeping up with the conversation. If Philly drafted Bronny because lebron promised them he would sign with them that would unequivocally be tampering. That was what was being discussed. Obviously if he doesn’t do that it isn’t. Let’s try to not just muddle the conversation cause this is a very black and white case.

Okay. So then there is direct contact and clear tampering. Agreed.

And if Philly drafts Bronny without LeBron promising to join but just based on his comments in the media thus far, there is no tampering.
exactly.  Philly may just decide that the late 1st is a crap shoot and the likelihood of finding anyone other than a career back-up is small, so why not take the shot on Bronny.  Even if they don't land Sr., they may still be able to capitalize on junior making it a smart financial move.  As much as we fans don't give any thought to marketing and financial stuff (other than cap), owners sure do think about that stuff.  And there is clearly money that can be made off Lebron James, Jr. 
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Re: Bronny James has cardiac arrest - is recovering
« Reply #110 on: April 08, 2024, 12:14:39 AM »

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What rule is being broken?

Is there are a rule that is being broken? Or do people think there should be a rule created to stop this from happening?

I am not sure what rule is being broken here.

A player under contract with one team can not negotiate with another team about future contracts. This is like the most basic rule of tampering. In this instance, Lebron can’t tell Philly he will sign with them for cheap if they draft his son. It would be a very clear cut example of tampering. What in the world is going on with this thread lol.

LeBron has not negotiated with any team. He has had no contact with Philadelphia. He has had no direct contact with any individual team. There is no tampering.

It doesn’t seem like you are really keeping up with the conversation. If Philly drafted Bronny because lebron promised them he would sign with them that would unequivocally be tampering. That was what was being discussed. Obviously if he doesn’t do that it isn’t. Let’s try to not just muddle the conversation cause this is a very black and white case.

Okay. So then there is direct contact and clear tampering. Agreed.

And if Philly drafts Bronny without LeBron promising to join but just based on his comments in the media thus far, there is no tampering.
exactly.  Philly may just decide that the late 1st is a crap shoot and the likelihood of finding anyone other than a career back-up is small, so why not take the shot on Bronny.  Even if they don't land Sr., they may still be able to capitalize on junior making it a smart financial move.  As much as we fans don't give any thought to marketing and financial stuff (other than cap), owners sure do think about that stuff.  And there is clearly money that can be made off Lebron James, Jr.

Teams don’t punt first round picks anymore. But I’ll give you 100 Tommy points also if a team takes a prospect like Bronny not ranked in the top 100 in the first round. Otherwise you guys are spending a whole lot of time on nonsense scenarios here and to be honest I can’t really understand why. I get you are a Lebron fan but his legacy has nothing to do with if some team makes some ridiculous reach for Bronny in a wink wink deal that gets investigated by the league.
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Re: Bronny James has cardiac arrest - is recovering
« Reply #111 on: April 08, 2024, 12:31:20 AM »

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What rule is being broken?

Is there are a rule that is being broken? Or do people think there should be a rule created to stop this from happening?

I am not sure what rule is being broken here.

A player under contract with one team can not negotiate with another team about future contracts. This is like the most basic rule of tampering. In this instance, Lebron can’t tell Philly he will sign with them for cheap if they draft his son. It would be a very clear cut example of tampering. What in the world is going on with this thread lol.

LeBron has not negotiated with any team. He has had no contact with Philadelphia. He has had no direct contact with any individual team. There is no tampering.

It doesn’t seem like you are really keeping up with the conversation. If Philly drafted Bronny because lebron promised them he would sign with them that would unequivocally be tampering. That was what was being discussed. Obviously if he doesn’t do that it isn’t. Let’s try to not just muddle the conversation cause this is a very black and white case.

Okay. So then there is direct contact and clear tampering. Agreed.

And if Philly drafts Bronny without LeBron promising to join but just based on his comments in the media thus far, there is no tampering.
exactly.  Philly may just decide that the late 1st is a crap shoot and the likelihood of finding anyone other than a career back-up is small, so why not take the shot on Bronny.  Even if they don't land Sr., they may still be able to capitalize on junior making it a smart financial move.  As much as we fans don't give any thought to marketing and financial stuff (other than cap), owners sure do think about that stuff.  And there is clearly money that can be made off Lebron James, Jr.

The team that drafted maxey 21 three years ago deciding the 22nd pick in this draft is worthless would be pretty funny.

Re: Bronny James has cardiac arrest - is recovering
« Reply #112 on: April 08, 2024, 01:02:21 AM »

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What rule is being broken?

Is there are a rule that is being broken? Or do people think there should be a rule created to stop this from happening?

I am not sure what rule is being broken here.

A player under contract with one team can not negotiate with another team about future contracts. This is like the most basic rule of tampering. In this instance, Lebron can’t tell Philly he will sign with them for cheap if they draft his son. It would be a very clear cut example of tampering. What in the world is going on with this thread lol.

LeBron has not negotiated with any team. He has had no contact with Philadelphia. He has had no direct contact with any individual team. There is no tampering.

It doesn’t seem like you are really keeping up with the conversation. If Philly drafted Bronny because lebron promised them he would sign with them that would unequivocally be tampering. That was what was being discussed. Obviously if he doesn’t do that it isn’t. Let’s try to not just muddle the conversation cause this is a very black and white case.

Okay. So then there is direct contact and clear tampering. Agreed.

And if Philly drafts Bronny without LeBron promising to join but just based on his comments in the media thus far, there is no tampering.
exactly.  Philly may just decide that the late 1st is a crap shoot and the likelihood of finding anyone other than a career back-up is small, so why not take the shot on Bronny.  Even if they don't land Sr., they may still be able to capitalize on junior making it a smart financial move.  As much as we fans don't give any thought to marketing and financial stuff (other than cap), owners sure do think about that stuff.  And there is clearly money that can be made off Lebron James, Jr.

I really doubt there's any money to be made out of Bronny (on his own, outside of being used to lure LeBron).

He's not going to be selling tickets, he's not going to be bringing in any relevant sponsorships.  Markelle Fultz (9.1m) has more followers  than Bronny, Ben Simmons has about the same amount of followers (7.5m), Kyle Kuzma (~5m) and Tristan Thompson (~4m) are in the same ballpark.  Do you think these guys are driving any value to their team other than what they actually contribute on the floor?

Where do you think there's money to be made?

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Re: Bronny James has cardiac arrest - is recovering
« Reply #113 on: April 08, 2024, 01:45:52 AM »

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What rule is being broken?

Is there are a rule that is being broken? Or do people think there should be a rule created to stop this from happening?

I am not sure what rule is being broken here.

A player under contract with one team can not negotiate with another team about future contracts. This is like the most basic rule of tampering. In this instance, Lebron can’t tell Philly he will sign with them for cheap if they draft his son. It would be a very clear cut example of tampering. What in the world is going on with this thread lol.

LeBron has not negotiated with any team. He has had no contact with Philadelphia. He has had no direct contact with any individual team. There is no tampering.

It doesn’t seem like you are really keeping up with the conversation. If Philly drafted Bronny because lebron promised them he would sign with them that would unequivocally be tampering. That was what was being discussed. Obviously if he doesn’t do that it isn’t. Let’s try to not just muddle the conversation cause this is a very black and white case.

Okay. So then there is direct contact and clear tampering. Agreed.

And if Philly drafts Bronny without LeBron promising to join but just based on his comments in the media thus far, there is no tampering.
exactly.  Philly may just decide that the late 1st is a crap shoot and the likelihood of finding anyone other than a career back-up is small, so why not take the shot on Bronny.  Even if they don't land Sr., they may still be able to capitalize on junior making it a smart financial move.  As much as we fans don't give any thought to marketing and financial stuff (other than cap), owners sure do think about that stuff.  And there is clearly money that can be made off Lebron James, Jr.

I really doubt there's any money to be made out of Bronny (on his own, outside of being used to lure LeBron).

He's not going to be selling tickets, he's not going to be bringing in any relevant sponsorships.  Markelle Fultz (9.1m) has more followers  than Bronny, Ben Simmons has about the same amount of followers (7.5m), Kyle Kuzma (~5m) and Tristan Thompson (~4m) are in the same ballpark.  Do you think these guys are driving any value to their team other than what they actually contribute on the floor?

Where do you think there's money to be made?

There isn’t. This has just some devils advocate stuff that gotten pretty over board. Bronny will be in college next year and teams aren’t tampering and blowing first rounds pick.

Re: Bronny James has cardiac arrest - is recovering
« Reply #114 on: April 08, 2024, 06:11:39 AM »

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What rule is being broken?

Is there are a rule that is being broken? Or do people think there should be a rule created to stop this from happening?

I am not sure what rule is being broken here.

A player under contract with one team can not negotiate with another team about future contracts. This is like the most basic rule of tampering. In this instance, Lebron can’t tell Philly he will sign with them for cheap if they draft his son. It would be a very clear cut example of tampering. What in the world is going on with this thread lol.

LeBron has not negotiated with any team. He has had no contact with Philadelphia. He has had no direct contact with any individual team. There is no tampering.

It doesn’t seem like you are really keeping up with the conversation. If Philly drafted Bronny because lebron promised them he would sign with them that would unequivocally be tampering. That was what was being discussed. Obviously if he doesn’t do that it isn’t. Let’s try to not just muddle the conversation cause this is a very black and white case.

Okay. So then there is direct contact and clear tampering. Agreed.

And if Philly drafts Bronny without LeBron promising to join but just based on his comments in the media thus far, there is no tampering.
exactly.  Philly may just decide that the late 1st is a crap shoot and the likelihood of finding anyone other than a career back-up is small, so why not take the shot on Bronny.  Even if they don't land Sr., they may still be able to capitalize on junior making it a smart financial move.  As much as we fans don't give any thought to marketing and financial stuff (other than cap), owners sure do think about that stuff.  And there is clearly money that can be made off Lebron James, Jr.

I really doubt there's any money to be made out of Bronny (on his own, outside of being used to lure LeBron).

He's not going to be selling tickets, he's not going to be bringing in any relevant sponsorships.  Markelle Fultz (9.1m) has more followers  than Bronny, Ben Simmons has about the same amount of followers (7.5m), Kyle Kuzma (~5m) and Tristan Thompson (~4m) are in the same ballpark.  Do you think these guys are driving any value to their team other than what they actually contribute on the floor?

Where do you think there's money to be made?
media interest.  Obviously he'd have to be decent to sustain it, but initially there would be a lot of extra eyeballs on whatever team drafted him.  I don't think any team is drafting him and he will go back to school, but that doesn't mean there is a collusion or violation of the cba if a team does.
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Re: Bronny James has cardiac arrest - is recovering
« Reply #115 on: April 08, 2024, 06:12:34 AM »

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What rule is being broken?

Is there are a rule that is being broken? Or do people think there should be a rule created to stop this from happening?

I am not sure what rule is being broken here.

A player under contract with one team can not negotiate with another team about future contracts. This is like the most basic rule of tampering. In this instance, Lebron can’t tell Philly he will sign with them for cheap if they draft his son. It would be a very clear cut example of tampering. What in the world is going on with this thread lol.

LeBron has not negotiated with any team. He has had no contact with Philadelphia. He has had no direct contact with any individual team. There is no tampering.

It doesn’t seem like you are really keeping up with the conversation. If Philly drafted Bronny because lebron promised them he would sign with them that would unequivocally be tampering. That was what was being discussed. Obviously if he doesn’t do that it isn’t. Let’s try to not just muddle the conversation cause this is a very black and white case.

Okay. So then there is direct contact and clear tampering. Agreed.

And if Philly drafts Bronny without LeBron promising to join but just based on his comments in the media thus far, there is no tampering.
exactly.  Philly may just decide that the late 1st is a crap shoot and the likelihood of finding anyone other than a career back-up is small, so why not take the shot on Bronny.  Even if they don't land Sr., they may still be able to capitalize on junior making it a smart financial move.  As much as we fans don't give any thought to marketing and financial stuff (other than cap), owners sure do think about that stuff.  And there is clearly money that can be made off Lebron James, Jr.

The team that drafted maxey 21 three years ago deciding the 22nd pick in this draft is worthless would be pretty funny.
ah yes because every draft is the same.
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Re: Bronny James has cardiac arrest - is recovering
« Reply #116 on: April 08, 2024, 08:32:48 AM »

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What rule is being broken?

Is there are a rule that is being broken? Or do people think there should be a rule created to stop this from happening?

I am not sure what rule is being broken here.

A player under contract with one team can not negotiate with another team about future contracts. This is like the most basic rule of tampering. In this instance, Lebron can’t tell Philly he will sign with them for cheap if they draft his son. It would be a very clear cut example of tampering. What in the world is going on with this thread lol.

LeBron has not negotiated with any team. He has had no contact with Philadelphia. He has had no direct contact with any individual team. There is no tampering.

That's the thing.  Lebron has just made public statements that he'd like to play with his son someday or even just play against him if necessary.  But, ideally, pull a Griffey and play with him.  Can't fault the guy one bit for wanting to play with his son.

He's got a player option for next season.  He has until the end of June to pick it up.  If he opts out, he's a free agent.

Circling back to what I said pages ago,  what if you're Philly and you have a mid to late 1st rounder.  You feel like you're one piece away from being a title contender or thinking that you're winning a title.  Based on Lebron's comments from the past, wouldn't you seriously consider taking Bronny if you think that'll be enough to bring in Lebron and make you a legit title contender?  First rounders have certainly been spent on worse over the years. 

Would the league really step in on that or launch some tampering investigation based on Lebron's statements about wanting to play with his kid?  Doubtful.


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Re: Bronny James has cardiac arrest - is recovering
« Reply #117 on: April 08, 2024, 09:02:32 AM »

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What rule is being broken?

Is there are a rule that is being broken? Or do people think there should be a rule created to stop this from happening?

I am not sure what rule is being broken here.

A player under contract with one team can not negotiate with another team about future contracts. This is like the most basic rule of tampering. In this instance, Lebron can’t tell Philly he will sign with them for cheap if they draft his son. It would be a very clear cut example of tampering. What in the world is going on with this thread lol.

LeBron has not negotiated with any team. He has had no contact with Philadelphia. He has had no direct contact with any individual team. There is no tampering.

That's the thing.  Lebron has just made public statements that he'd like to play with his son someday or even just play against him if necessary.  But, ideally, pull a Griffey and play with him.  Can't fault the guy one bit for wanting to play with his son.

He's got a player option for next season.  He has until the end of June to pick it up.  If he opts out, he's a free agent.

Circling back to what I said pages ago,  what if you're Philly and you have a mid to late 1st rounder.  You feel like you're one piece away from being a title contender or thinking that you're winning a title.  Based on Lebron's comments from the past, wouldn't you seriously consider taking Bronny if you think that'll be enough to bring in Lebron and make you a legit title contender?  First rounders have certainly been spent on worse over the years. 

Would the league really step in on that or launch some tampering investigation based on Lebron's statements about wanting to play with his kid?  Doubtful.
of course not because even if Lebron said nothing, some team may do it anyway because they'd probably assume he woukd want to play with his kid.  Again, I don't think Bronny gets drafted at all, but it wouldn't surprise me if a team used a 2nd rounder on him and then he went back to school for another year.
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Re: Bronny James has cardiac arrest - is recovering
« Reply #118 on: April 08, 2024, 11:16:58 AM »

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What rule is being broken?

Is there are a rule that is being broken? Or do people think there should be a rule created to stop this from happening?

I am not sure what rule is being broken here.

A player under contract with one team can not negotiate with another team about future contracts. This is like the most basic rule of tampering. In this instance, Lebron can’t tell Philly he will sign with them for cheap if they draft his son. It would be a very clear cut example of tampering. What in the world is going on with this thread lol.

LeBron has not negotiated with any team. He has had no contact with Philadelphia. He has had no direct contact with any individual team. There is no tampering.

It doesn’t seem like you are really keeping up with the conversation. If Philly drafted Bronny because lebron promised them he would sign with them that would unequivocally be tampering. That was what was being discussed. Obviously if he doesn’t do that it isn’t. Let’s try to not just muddle the conversation cause this is a very black and white case.

Okay. So then there is direct contact and clear tampering. Agreed.

And if Philly drafts Bronny without LeBron promising to join but just based on his comments in the media thus far, there is no tampering.
exactly.  Philly may just decide that the late 1st is a crap shoot and the likelihood of finding anyone other than a career back-up is small, so why not take the shot on Bronny.  Even if they don't land Sr., they may still be able to capitalize on junior making it a smart financial move.  As much as we fans don't give any thought to marketing and financial stuff (other than cap), owners sure do think about that stuff.  And there is clearly money that can be made off Lebron James, Jr.

The team that drafted maxey 21 three years ago deciding the 22nd pick in this draft is worthless would be pretty funny.
ah yes because every draft is the same.

Snarky responses and pretty lame. I said nothing about the drafts being the same just that teams regularly get good players in this range. A team that got one a few years ago is going to realize this as much as anyone. I don’t get why so many posters think a team will give up the chance for a valuable asset they control for many years for some pipe dream based on random things Lebron has said (which he has also walked back). But this debate for a hypothetical situation has gone on far too long and I’ll certainly come back if he gets drafted in first round and say I was wrong.

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What rule is being broken?

Is there are a rule that is being broken? Or do people think there should be a rule created to stop this from happening?

I am not sure what rule is being broken here.

A player under contract with one team can not negotiate with another team about future contracts. This is like the most basic rule of tampering. In this instance, Lebron can’t tell Philly he will sign with them for cheap if they draft his son. It would be a very clear cut example of tampering. What in the world is going on with this thread lol.

LeBron has not negotiated with any team. He has had no contact with Philadelphia. He has had no direct contact with any individual team. There is no tampering.

That's the thing.  Lebron has just made public statements that he'd like to play with his son someday or even just play against him if necessary.  But, ideally, pull a Griffey and play with him.  Can't fault the guy one bit for wanting to play with his son.

He's got a player option for next season.  He has until the end of June to pick it up.  If he opts out, he's a free agent.

Circling back to what I said pages ago,  what if you're Philly and you have a mid to late 1st rounder.  You feel like you're one piece away from being a title contender or thinking that you're winning a title.  Based on Lebron's comments from the past, wouldn't you seriously consider taking Bronny if you think that'll be enough to bring in Lebron and make you a legit title contender?  First rounders have certainly been spent on worse over the years. 

Would the league really step in on that or launch some tampering investigation based on Lebron's statements about wanting to play with his kid?  Doubtful.
I personally think the league would launch an investigation if Philly drafted Bronny 20th or whatever. He is not an NBA prospect right now and it would be like drafting maverick carter. This isn’t going to happen though so we will never have this proven. If he is taken in the second round, especially late the league would let it go because teams take deep projects all the time over there and it doesn’t come with years of guaranteed money. I don’t know what to say other than that there is a reason Bronny hasn’t been in a first round mock in many months.