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Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - Draft OPEN
« Reply #645 on: August 08, 2023, 06:19:24 PM »

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I love AK-47's dragon back piece. It's right up there with Tim Duncan's wizard.
TD's wizard is better than his weird mechanical yin & yang back piece.

In case anyone is curious:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BNxyZRUD-Mc/

I find biomech to be a difficult style to appreciate most of the time (the skin rips look a bit OTT, mostly), and Duncan's back is no exception, but it's pretty good work overall - clean lines, good shading, and reads fairly well despite a fairly abstract concept.


Sorry I can't believe Divac of all people was sniped out from under me at the last second (HAVE YOU NO SHAME), final pick incoming.
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Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - Draft OPEN
« Reply #646 on: August 08, 2023, 06:22:18 PM »

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Got some spacing for Roy. Drazen has the 3rd highest career 3pt%. His last season 22.3 ppg, 3.5 apg, 1.3 spg, 2.7 rpg, 52.9% from 2, 44.9% from 3, 87% from line (on 5.2 attempts). Such a pure shooter and scorer. Solid team player. Good fit for the team.
2023 Historical Draft - Brooklyn Nets - 9th pick

Bigs - Pau, Amar'e, Issel, McGinnis, Roundfield
Wings - Dantley, Bowen, J. Jackson
Guards - Cheeks, Petrovic, Buse, Rip

Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - Draft OPEN
« Reply #647 on: August 08, 2023, 06:22:48 PM »

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I love AK-47's dragon back piece. It's right up there with Tim Duncan's wizard.
TD's wizard is better than his weird mechanical yin & yang back piece.

In case anyone is curious:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BNxyZRUD-Mc/

I find biomech to be a difficult style to appreciate most of the time (the skin rips look a bit OTT, mostly), and Duncan's back is no exception, but it's pretty good work overall - clean lines, good shading, and reads fairly well despite a fairly abstract concept.


Sorry I can't believe Divac of all people was sniped out from under me at the last second (HAVE YOU NO SHAME), final pick incoming.
The top is quite messy to me, but the bottom half (besides the yin & yang) is pretty clean. Not my style personally, but neither is being a legendary NBA player.

You might have to engage Dons in some trade talk ;)
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - Draft OPEN
« Reply #648 on: August 08, 2023, 06:24:10 PM »

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I like the Petrovic pick, by the way.  I'm not sure about "second best shooter of all-time" -- volume matters -- but he was excellent at it, and will give an outside spark to the Nets.
he was top 10 in attempts in 92, scaled back some in 93, but upped the FTr quite a bit.  Just a different era, when guys just didn't shoot that much.
2023 Historical Draft - Brooklyn Nets - 9th pick

Bigs - Pau, Amar'e, Issel, McGinnis, Roundfield
Wings - Dantley, Bowen, J. Jackson
Guards - Cheeks, Petrovic, Buse, Rip

Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - Draft OPEN
« Reply #649 on: August 08, 2023, 06:25:13 PM »

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Vlade Vlade, he likes to party, he don't cause trouble, he don't bother nobody.

Love the pick.  He was high on my list.  Has there ever been a more likeable Laker?


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Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - Draft OPEN
« Reply #650 on: August 08, 2023, 06:31:38 PM »

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I just started chanting "Vlade".

That pick just got me excited. Love me some Vlade Divac. Under-rated career on it's whole. His Sacramento years get a lot of attention but great years in Charlotte and LAL as well.

Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - Draft OPEN
« Reply #651 on: August 08, 2023, 06:32:32 PM »

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You know, there's an interesting situation here - we're a bunch of folks nerding out on the internet about a bunch of men (and sometimes women) playing a children's game at the absolute highest level. And, as anyone who's spent any time around athletes knows, it's a really incredible thing to watch these absolutely extraordinary people do their thing.

On Saturday night my girlfriend and I wound up on the train across from three absolute head-spinning model types - gorgeous, 6'3 in unreasonable heels for the city, size zeros on their worst days, wearing less fabric total than either one of us had in one of articles of clothing, you get the idea - and I was reminded of the fact that there are some people who are so smooth, so effortless in their day to day activities that, compared to me (roughly the size of Allen Iverson with the approximate muscle mass of Steve Urkel) and most people I see in my day-to-day life they might as well be aliens.

Implicit grace. It's a theme with most, but not all, of the really great NBA players. Style. Panache. Dare I say sexiness?

My next pick is not like that. My next pick is Joakim Noah.

edit: forgot an 'and'
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Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - Draft OPEN
« Reply #652 on: August 08, 2023, 06:34:00 PM »

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You know, there's an interesting situation here - we're a bunch of folks nerding out on the internet about a bunch of men (and sometimes women) playing a children's game at the absolute highest level. And, as anyone who's spent any time around athletes knows, it's a really incredible thing to watch these absolutely extraordinary people do their thing.

On Saturday night my girlfriend I wound up on the train across from three absolute head-spinning model types (gorgeous, 6'3 in unreasonable heels for the city, size zeros on their worst days, wearing less fabric total than either one of us had in one of articles of clothing, you get the idea), and I was reminded of the fact that there are some people who are so smooth, so effortless in their day to day activities that, compared to me (roughly the size of Allen Iverson with the approximate muscle mass of Steve Urkel) and most people I see in my day-to-day life they might as well be aliens.

Implicit grace. It's a theme with most, but not all, of the really great NBA players. Style. Panache. Dare I say sexiness?

My next pick is not like that. My next pick is Joakim Noah.

Great player, but my anti-binkie.


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Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - Draft OPEN
« Reply #653 on: August 08, 2023, 06:34:35 PM »

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Love me Joakim Noah. Such an incredible team player. Made everyone around him better on both ends despite being...maybe not so good at actual basketball. Just a guy you want on your team.

And he's hilarious.
2023 Historical Draft: Toronto Raptors

Point Guard: Anfernee Hardaway, Fat Lever, Terrell Brandon
Shooting Guard: Paul Westphal, Paul Pressey
Small Forward: Marques Johnson, Danny Granger
Power Forward: Jermaine O'Neal, Bobby Jones, Kiki Vandeweghe
Center: Marc Gasol, Serge Ibaka

Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - Draft OPEN
« Reply #654 on: August 08, 2023, 06:34:45 PM »

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You know, there's an interesting situation here - we're a bunch of folks nerding out on the internet about a bunch of men (and sometimes women) playing a children's game at the absolute highest level. And, as anyone who's spent any time around athletes knows, it's a really incredible thing to watch these absolutely extraordinary people do their thing.

On Saturday night my girlfriend I wound up on the train across from three absolute head-spinning model types - gorgeous, 6'3 in unreasonable heels for the city, size zeros on their worst days, wearing less fabric total than either one of us had in one of articles of clothing, you get the idea - and I was reminded of the fact that there are some people who are so smooth, so effortless in their day to day activities that, compared to me (roughly the size of Allen Iverson with the approximate muscle mass of Steve Urkel) and most people I see in my day-to-day life they might as well be aliens.

Implicit grace. It's a theme with most, but not all, of the really great NBA players. Style. Panache. Dare I say sexiness?

My next pick is not like that. My next pick is Joakim Noah.
Haha. Loved his game. Excellent defence & playmaking. Just happened to rub KG the wrong way...
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - Draft OPEN
« Reply #655 on: August 08, 2023, 06:34:49 PM »

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I think Tom Ziller once described him as 'Weird Garnett' and I think that sums up his appeal (or lack thereof) entirely.
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Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - Draft OPEN
« Reply #656 on: August 08, 2023, 06:35:13 PM »

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Got some spacing for Roy. Drazen has the 3rd highest career 3pt%. His last season 22.3 ppg, 3.5 apg, 1.3 spg, 2.7 rpg, 52.9% from 2, 44.9% from 3, 87% from line (on 5.2 attempts). Such a pure shooter and scorer. Solid team player. Good fit for the team.

I hadn't thought much about this but how highly would he rate as a scorer in this league of ours under the current day rules? Would Drazen be a top 5 scorer in the league? Top 10?

He's gotta be up there. Somewhere pretty high. He'd be close to unguardable in today's league. His ability to stretch the court. He has enough handles to drive. No hand-checking. More air-space to attack than he had in the early 90s.

Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - Draft OPEN
« Reply #657 on: August 08, 2023, 06:38:41 PM »

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Teams are updated in the team thread, link found in OP. Going to do a couple of lines on each team
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - Draft OPEN
« Reply #658 on: August 08, 2023, 06:40:03 PM »

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I was re-watching some games from that 2002 Team USA a while back. Maybe two months ago. I remember that Serbian team beating Team USA.

Vlade Divac was the best big man on the court. Ben Wallace was there for Team USA. Vlade's two way game completely outdid Big Ben. Elton Brand was also there. As was another still to be drafted big man. Vlade was simply the most complete of any of them. Elton Brand is a bit unfair because he was really a PF and not a C. But the other two were Cs and Vlade kicked their butt.

Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - Draft OPEN
« Reply #659 on: August 08, 2023, 06:46:07 PM »

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Figured Vlade would be a good counter to Lucas.  Trying to balance grittiness & finesse with the team I'm building.  Emphasis on ball movement too.


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