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Re: Free agency starts / reported signings (merged)
« Reply #975 on: September 19, 2023, 09:53:58 AM »

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C: Embiid, Mo Bamba
F: PJ Tucker, Paul Reed
F: T Harris, Oubre
G: Harden, D Melton
G: Maxey, P Beverley

Others: Montrez, Danny Green, Danuel House, Korkmaz

Not bad. Not bad at all.

I wonder if Oubre should start with T Harris moving to the bench instead. Give Philly a stronger bench scorer / game-changing substitution option. Oubre help improve the team speed. They are slow footed 2-5.

It really all comes down to Embiid and Harden.  It those two are both playing at full potential, they are a top team.  Kind of like the Lakers with LeBron and LeBrow.  For PHI, Harris and Tucker are not that good and I am not sure Maxey is a true #3 (although he has certainly shown a lot of potential).  I see PHI as a legit threat, but not because of Oubre or Bamba or Danny Green or any of the others.

Re: Free agency starts / reported signings (merged)
« Reply #976 on: September 19, 2023, 10:56:47 AM »

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https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2023/08/dj-steward-to-sign-training-camp-deal-with-celtics.html

Interesting prospect.  Former 5-star recruit who left after a season and went undrafted — he’s only 21 despite 2 years as a pro in the G League.  We’ll see what he looks like in camp, I guess.
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Re: Free agency starts / reported signings (merged)
« Reply #977 on: September 19, 2023, 12:48:53 PM »

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C: Embiid, Mo Bamba
F: PJ Tucker, Paul Reed
F: T Harris, Oubre
G: Harden, D Melton
G: Maxey, P Beverley

Others: Montrez, Danny Green, Danuel House, Korkmaz

Not bad. Not bad at all.

I wonder if Oubre should start with T Harris moving to the bench instead. Give Philly a stronger bench scorer / game-changing substitution option. Oubre help improve the team speed. They are slow footed 2-5.

It really all comes down to Embiid and Harden.  It those two are both playing at full potential, they are a top team.  Kind of like the Lakers with LeBron and LeBrow.  For PHI, Harris and Tucker are not that good and I am not sure Maxey is a true #3 (although he has certainly shown a lot of potential).  I see PHI as a legit threat, but not because of Oubre or Bamba or Danny Green or any of the others.
you don't think Maxey is a 3? Really?
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Re: Free agency starts / reported signings (merged)
« Reply #978 on: September 20, 2023, 08:05:18 AM »

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C: Embiid, Mo Bamba
F: PJ Tucker, Paul Reed
F: T Harris, Oubre
G: Harden, D Melton
G: Maxey, P Beverley

Others: Montrez, Danny Green, Danuel House, Korkmaz

Not bad. Not bad at all.

I wonder if Oubre should start with T Harris moving to the bench instead. Give Philly a stronger bench scorer / game-changing substitution option. Oubre help improve the team speed. They are slow footed 2-5.

It really all comes down to Embiid and Harden.  It those two are both playing at full potential, they are a top team.  Kind of like the Lakers with LeBron and LeBrow.  For PHI, Harris and Tucker are not that good and I am not sure Maxey is a true #3 (although he has certainly shown a lot of potential).  I see PHI as a legit threat, but not because of Oubre or Bamba or Danny Green or any of the others.
A 20pt scorer who shoots 43% from 3 isn't a true #3.  That's nuts.  He's also only 22 going into his 4th season so there is no reason to think he won't get even better. 

Re: Free agency starts / reported signings (merged)
« Reply #979 on: September 20, 2023, 08:25:47 AM »

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C: Embiid, Mo Bamba
F: PJ Tucker, Paul Reed
F: T Harris, Oubre
G: Harden, D Melton
G: Maxey, P Beverley

Others: Montrez, Danny Green, Danuel House, Korkmaz

Not bad. Not bad at all.

I wonder if Oubre should start with T Harris moving to the bench instead. Give Philly a stronger bench scorer / game-changing substitution option. Oubre help improve the team speed. They are slow footed 2-5.
Harris should stay in the starting lineup.  He's become a solid defender.  That starting offense has more than enough scoring.  Oubre is the better bench scoring option. 

Re: Free agency starts / reported signings (merged)
« Reply #980 on: September 20, 2023, 08:56:38 AM »

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C: Embiid, Mo Bamba
F: PJ Tucker, Paul Reed
F: T Harris, Oubre
G: Harden, D Melton
G: Maxey, P Beverley

Others: Montrez, Danny Green, Danuel House, Korkmaz

Not bad. Not bad at all.

I wonder if Oubre should start with T Harris moving to the bench instead. Give Philly a stronger bench scorer / game-changing substitution option. Oubre help improve the team speed. They are slow footed 2-5.

It really all comes down to Embiid and Harden.  It those two are both playing at full potential, they are a top team.  Kind of like the Lakers with LeBron and LeBrow.  For PHI, Harris and Tucker are not that good and I am not sure Maxey is a true #3 (although he has certainly shown a lot of potential).  I see PHI as a legit threat, but not because of Oubre or Bamba or Danny Green or any of the others.
A 20pt scorer who shoots 43% from 3 isn't a true #3.  That's nuts.  He's also only 22 going into his 4th season so there is no reason to think he won't get even better.

Kelly Oubre averaged 20 pts too (although not 40%+ from 3) so you really can't go just on that.  I guess I was thinking a "3" more in the mold of the old school big 3 where Ray Allen was a 3rd guy.  Teams, I admit, aren't really like that anymore.  Denver for example didn't have a 3 that was all that good (Porter?).  My main point is that I don't think Maxey, and certainly not Oubre, can make that much difference if Embiid and Harden aren't good.  If Embiid and Harden are good, PHI will be good.  Maxey is a good player, I guess I can't argue definitively that he is a "3" or not, it is too vague of a criteria, and it doesn't really matter anyway.  He is a good player, fits well next to Embiid and Harden, and helps the team in the role as their 3rd best player.

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« Reply #981 on: September 20, 2023, 02:24:25 PM »

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Who I would bet Oubre will play ahead of Tucker at SF  and Harris will play the four.  This was a good signing for the Sixers, as I see it.  Another guy who could have helped us while Brad was chasing guys like Svi....

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« Reply #982 on: September 20, 2023, 02:39:07 PM »

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Who I would bet Oubre will play ahead of Tucker at SF  and Harris will play the four.  This was a good signing for the Sixers, as I see it.  Another guy who could have helped us while Brad was chasing guys like Svi....

Again, you keep insisting that Brad could've signed Oubre but chose not to when there's been no evidence of that. Free agency doesn't work that way. Players also have to be interested in coming here. But the truth is, we weren't a great situation for him.

You just highlighted the fact that Oubre could have an opportunity to start in Philly when no such opportunity exists here. Our top seven is pretty set: Tatum/KP/JB/White/Al/Rob/Brogdon. Oubre's in a contract year, he needs an opportunity to showcase himself for next offseason.
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Re: Free agency starts / reported signings (merged)
« Reply #983 on: September 20, 2023, 05:25:47 PM »

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Oubre signed with the 76ers.

That sucks.
Eh. It always seems that teams improve markedly as soon as he leaves them.
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Re: Free agency starts / reported signings (merged)
« Reply #984 on: September 20, 2023, 05:28:46 PM »

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C: Embiid, Mo Bamba
F: PJ Tucker, Paul Reed
F: T Harris, Oubre
G: Harden, D Melton
G: Maxey, P Beverley

Others: Montrez, Danny Green, Danuel House, Korkmaz

Not bad. Not bad at all.

I wonder if Oubre should start with T Harris moving to the bench instead. Give Philly a stronger bench scorer / game-changing substitution option. Oubre help improve the team speed. They are slow footed 2-5.

It really all comes down to Embiid and Harden.  It those two are both playing at full potential, they are a top team.  Kind of like the Lakers with LeBron and LeBrow.  For PHI, Harris and Tucker are not that good and I am not sure Maxey is a true #3 (although he has certainly shown a lot of potential).  I see PHI as a legit threat, but not because of Oubre or Bamba or Danny Green or any of the others.
A 20pt scorer who shoots 43% from 3 isn't a true #3.  That's nuts.  He's also only 22 going into his 4th season so there is no reason to think he won't get even better.
I think Maxey has provided ample evidence that he is quite seriously good, but that this is often hampered by James Harden's presence. He averaged 25/5/4 without Harden vs 19/3/3 with him.

He's definitely still a #3 option there with Harden, but they need to get him the ball more to release his full potential.
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Re: Free agency starts / reported signings (merged)
« Reply #985 on: September 24, 2023, 09:08:27 PM »

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Entering training camp, the Mavs are keeping an open mind as it relates to competition for the starting center position. Lively, who stands at 7-foot-1 with a 7-foot-7 wingspan, will being camp starting with the regular core consisting of Luka Doncic, Kyrie Irving, and Grant Williams, to evaluate the rookie’s readiness for instant NBA impact. “It’s up for grabs,” Mavs coach Jason Kidd told Marc Stein on 97.1 The Freak when asked about the starting center job. “I will start Lively with the big group and see how that goes.” 16 hours ago – via Sports Illustrated

So it sounds like Grant is going to be in Dallas's big 3 along with Luka and Kyrie.  It will be interesting to see how it goes for Grant in Dallas. 

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« Reply #986 on: September 24, 2023, 09:33:30 PM »

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I think we as fans have to occasionally give front offices more respects for their scouting and interviewing process. I’m fallen victim to it myself thinking how in the world are Carmelo, Howard, cousins and whiteside unsigned parts of last season, but if every team agrees in it there is probably some really evaluation stuff happening. I remember some posters up in arms that Houston got Porter jr for free a few years back. Well guess why? This off-season it seems like woods and oubre were “steals.” But why? My guess is neither is a net positive over the course of the season. And yes some can argue that it is risk free, but I don’t think we should totally discount chemistry. When a guy becomes a Malcontent yes you can cut him, but he may made friends in the locker room and issues can linger (the tv show winning time did a really good job highlighting how chemistry derailed one of their seasons in the 80’s).

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« Reply #987 on: September 25, 2023, 12:00:47 PM »

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After two days of workouts warriors decline to sign Dwight Howard https://www.sfgate.com/warriors/article/dwight-howard-tweet-warriors-rejection-18385508.php I was rooting for him.

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« Reply #988 on: September 25, 2023, 12:09:31 PM »

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After two days of workouts warriors decline to sign Dwight Howard https://www.sfgate.com/warriors/article/dwight-howard-tweet-warriors-rejection-18385508.php I was rooting for him.

Can I ask why you were rooting for Dwight?
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« Reply #989 on: September 25, 2023, 12:12:59 PM »

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After two days of workouts warriors decline to sign Dwight Howard https://www.sfgate.com/warriors/article/dwight-howard-tweet-warriors-rejection-18385508.php I was rooting for him.

Can I ask why you were rooting for Dwight?

I mean the main reason is I kind of root for all the old guys to stay in the league. I think it a pretty incredible accomplishment when they can stay out there in a league with guys half their age. So like cousins, wall, Howard (Carmelo last year) Blake etc I just think it is cool when they can stay in the league.