Should we be worried about Horford?

[gouki88]

Not worried at all. He can just transition to the bench and play 20-25MPG. He's only making $10M this coming season.

That (mistakenly) implies someone is capable of stepping up and eating those minutes whilst playing at a similar level.

Horford's decline really worries me. We haven't found anyone to offset his decline + Timelord's propensity for being in street clothes. I don't think it helps that our offence has pivoted away from Horford's #1 strength (passing). He is essentially now just a shooter, which I do not like.

We need big man help.

If Rob plays 25mpg and AL gets 23mpg, that should help with wear and tear. Gallo can likely play some 5 in a pinch. Then you have Tatum as the starting PF with Gallo and Grant off the bench. Seems reasonable to me.

Rob plays that MPG on 50-65% of games. What happens in the others? Gallo is a combination of Rob’s proneness to injury and Horford’s age.

Seems reasonable if we want to be destroyed inside. That is a shockingly shallow big man group that is on the brink of collapse.

Rob played 23.5mpg last year and nearly 30mpg the year before. Yes, he missed games during the regular season, but has been available for the postseason which is really what matters. If you think that Brad should move on from Rob and find a more durable center, that’s a different conversation. If we are talking purely about depth, the Celtics have enough.

Lol. Rob played 96 regular season games in 2 seasons, missed a significant portion of last seasons playoff run, and only played ~20MPG in this most recent playoff run. His body is incapable of being a season-long 25+MPG guy.

The Celtics clearly do not have enough depth at the big spots. That is a real head-in-the-sand comment.

[Muzzy66]

Not worried at all. He can just transition to the bench and play 20-25MPG. He's only making $10M this coming season.

That (mistakenly) implies someone is capable of stepping up and eating those minutes whilst playing at a similar level.

Horford's decline really worries me. We haven't found anyone to offset his decline + Timelord's propensity for being in street clothes. I don't think it helps that our offence has pivoted away from Horford's #1 strength (passing). He is essentially now just a shooter, which I do not like.

We need big man help.

If Rob plays 25mpg and AL gets 23mpg, that should help with wear and tear. Gallo can likely play some 5 in a pinch. Then you have Tatum as the starting PF with Gallo and Grant off the bench. Seems reasonable to me.

Rob plays that MPG on 50-65% of games. What happens in the others? Gallo is a combination of Rob’s proneness to injury and Horford’s age.

Seems reasonable if we want to be destroyed inside. That is a shockingly shallow big man group that is on the brink of collapse.

Rob played 23.5mpg last year and nearly 30mpg the year before. Yes, he missed games during the regular season, but has been available for the postseason which is really what matters. If you think that Brad should move on from Rob and find a more durable center, that’s a different conversation. If we are talking purely about depth, the Celtics have enough.

Lol. Rob played 96 regular season games in 2 seasons, missed a significant portion of last seasons playoff run, and only played ~20MPG in this most recent playoff run. His body is incapable of being a season-long 25+MPG guy.

The Celtics clearly do not have enough depth at the big spots. That is a real head-in-the-sand comment.

I agree with this 100%.  We cannot depend on Horford at his age/mileage and we definitely can't depend on Rob.  I like Rob a lot when he's healthy, but every year he's either missing crucial playoff games or being held back by minutes restrictions.  You cannot build team chemistry when your starting lineup changes constantly because you are relying on a 37 year old and a guy made of glass.  We either need to trade Rob with a more durable and dependable starting big man, or we need to bring in a third big who is good enough that he we can start him for extended stretches if we need to without a dramatic drop-off in effectiveness.

[Goldstar88]

Not worried at all. He can just transition to the bench and play 20-25MPG. He's only making $10M this coming season.

That (mistakenly) implies someone is capable of stepping up and eating those minutes whilst playing at a similar level.

Horford's decline really worries me. We haven't found anyone to offset his decline + Timelord's propensity for being in street clothes. I don't think it helps that our offence has pivoted away from Horford's #1 strength (passing). He is essentially now just a shooter, which I do not like.

We need big man help.

If Rob plays 25mpg and AL gets 23mpg, that should help with wear and tear. Gallo can likely play some 5 in a pinch. Then you have Tatum as the starting PF with Gallo and Grant off the bench. Seems reasonable to me.

Rob plays that MPG on 50-65% of games. What happens in the others? Gallo is a combination of Rob’s proneness to injury and Horford’s age.

Seems reasonable if we want to be destroyed inside. That is a shockingly shallow big man group that is on the brink of collapse.

Rob played 23.5mpg last year and nearly 30mpg the year before. Yes, he missed games during the regular season, but has been available for the postseason which is really what matters. If you think that Brad should move on from Rob and find a more durable center, that’s a different conversation. If we are talking purely about depth, the Celtics have enough.

Lol. Rob played 96 regular season games in 2 seasons, missed a significant portion of last seasons playoff run, and only played ~20MPG in this most recent playoff run. His body is incapable of being a season-long 25+MPG guy.

The Celtics clearly do not have enough depth at the big spots. That is a real head-in-the-sand comment.

Rob is injury prone, but you can’t just eliminate him from the depth chart altogether which is what you seem to be trying to do. If Rob is available for the playoffs which has been the case the last two seasons, that’s what matters. You may have missed it, but he played in every game during the playoffs this year.

[gouki88]

Not worried at all. He can just transition to the bench and play 20-25MPG. He's only making $10M this coming season.

That (mistakenly) implies someone is capable of stepping up and eating those minutes whilst playing at a similar level.

Horford's decline really worries me. We haven't found anyone to offset his decline + Timelord's propensity for being in street clothes. I don't think it helps that our offence has pivoted away from Horford's #1 strength (passing). He is essentially now just a shooter, which I do not like.

We need big man help.

If Rob plays 25mpg and AL gets 23mpg, that should help with wear and tear. Gallo can likely play some 5 in a pinch. Then you have Tatum as the starting PF with Gallo and Grant off the bench. Seems reasonable to me.

Rob plays that MPG on 50-65% of games. What happens in the others? Gallo is a combination of Rob’s proneness to injury and Horford’s age.

Seems reasonable if we want to be destroyed inside. That is a shockingly shallow big man group that is on the brink of collapse.

Rob played 23.5mpg last year and nearly 30mpg the year before. Yes, he missed games during the regular season, but has been available for the postseason which is really what matters. If you think that Brad should move on from Rob and find a more durable center, that’s a different conversation. If we are talking purely about depth, the Celtics have enough.

Lol. Rob played 96 regular season games in 2 seasons, missed a significant portion of last seasons playoff run, and only played ~20MPG in this most recent playoff run. His body is incapable of being a season-long 25+MPG guy.

The Celtics clearly do not have enough depth at the big spots. That is a real head-in-the-sand comment.

Rob is injury prone, but you can’t just eliminate him from the depth chart altogether which is what you seem to be trying to do. If Rob is available for the playoffs which has been the case the last two seasons, that’s what matters. You may have missed it, but he played in every game during the playoffs this year.

Not really. Just accounting for the 30-50% of games he will miss. You're continued ignoring of his missed games, even in the playoffs. You may have missed it, but he missed playoff games last season and was clearly below 100%.