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Re: Smart’s got to go..
« Reply #30 on: June 22, 2023, 12:46:34 AM »

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I have no idea if this works out but credit to Stevens for the shake up. This trade definitely sent some tremors in that locker room.

Re: Smart’s got to go..
« Reply #31 on: June 22, 2023, 12:48:37 AM »

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I didn’t think Stevens had it in him to trade Smart lol not sold on the return though. Losing another guy who defined the defensive identity this team had. There better be another shoe to drop with those picks.

Not sold on the return? Two first rounders and KP. That’s an incredible return. Smarts defense was not great last year, neither was his decision making with the ball in his hand. He’s also turning 30 next season. This was the time to move him. Bravo, Brad.
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At some point you have to blame the performance on the court on the players on the court. Every loss is not the coach's fault and every win isn't because of the players.

Re: Smart’s got to go..
« Reply #32 on: June 22, 2023, 12:50:38 AM »

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I didn’t think Stevens had it in him to trade Smart lol not sold on the return though. Losing another guy who defined the defensive identity this team had. There better be another shoe to drop with those picks.

Not sold on the return? Two first rounders and KP. That’s an incredible return. Smarts defense was not great last year, neither was his decision making with the ball in his hand. He’s also turning 30 next season. This was the time to move him. Bravo, Brad.
Yeah, as far as prospective returns for Smart this is as good as I could have imagined. More talented player and draft capital in return!
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Re: Smart’s got to go..
« Reply #33 on: June 22, 2023, 01:00:15 AM »

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I didn’t think Stevens had it in him to trade Smart lol not sold on the return though. Losing another guy who defined the defensive identity this team had. There better be another shoe to drop with those picks.

Not sold on the return? Two first rounders and KP. That’s an incredible return. Smarts defense was not great last year, neither was his decision making with the ball in his hand. He’s also turning 30 next season. This was the time to move him. Bravo, Brad.
Yeah, as far as prospective returns for Smart this is as good as I could have imagined. More talented player and draft capital in return!

Finally something we can agree on, Gouki!  :laugh:

I’m still in shock over this trade… Wow.

Updated depth chart anyone?

https://www.espn.com/nba/team/depth/_/name/bos


Quoting Nick from the now locked Ime thread:
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At some point you have to blame the performance on the court on the players on the court. Every loss is not the coach's fault and every win isn't because of the players.

Re: Smart’s got to go..
« Reply #34 on: June 22, 2023, 02:43:00 AM »

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I didn’t think Stevens had it in him to trade Smart lol not sold on the return though. Losing another guy who defined the defensive identity this team had. There better be another shoe to drop with those picks.

Not sold on the return? Two first rounders and KP. That’s an incredible return. Smarts defense was not great last year, neither was his decision making with the ball in his hand. He’s also turning 30 next season. This was the time to move him. Bravo, Brad.
Yeah, as far as prospective returns for Smart this is as good as I could have imagined. More talented player and draft capital in return!

Finally something we can agree on, Gouki!  :laugh:

I’m still in shock over this trade… Wow.

Updated depth chart anyone?

https://www.espn.com/nba/team/depth/_/name/bos

That depth chart puts Brogdon as starting pg. I think it’s DW.  But I also think Brad isn’t done.

Re: Smart’s got to go..
« Reply #35 on: June 22, 2023, 02:47:22 AM »

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I didn’t think Stevens had it in him to trade Smart lol not sold on the return though. Losing another guy who defined the defensive identity this team had. There better be another shoe to drop with those picks.

Not sold on the return? Two first rounders and KP. That’s an incredible return. Smarts defense was not great last year, neither was his decision making with the ball in his hand. He’s also turning 30 next season. This was the time to move him. Bravo, Brad.
Yeah, as far as prospective returns for Smart this is as good as I could have imagined. More talented player and draft capital in return!

Finally something we can agree on, Gouki!  :laugh:

I’m still in shock over this trade… Wow.

Updated depth chart anyone?

https://www.espn.com/nba/team/depth/_/name/bos

That depth chart puts Brogdon as starting pg. I think it’s DW.  But I also think Brad isn’t done.
Still having Brogdon (alongside Horford, and Grant in a potential S&T) there to dangle is super intriguing. Easily capable of putting together a significant offer
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PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
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SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Smart’s got to go..
« Reply #36 on: June 22, 2023, 06:58:39 AM »

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I didn’t think Stevens had it in him to trade Smart lol not sold on the return though. Losing another guy who defined the defensive identity this team had. There better be another shoe to drop with those picks.

Not sold on the return? Two first rounders and KP. That’s an incredible return. Smarts defense was not great last year, neither was his decision making with the ball in his hand. He’s also turning 30 next season. This was the time to move him. Bravo, Brad.

TP agreed. His defense was lackluster last season and his ability to be a floor general never developed same issues every year with his decision making. This was a great haul.
ok fine

Re: Smart’s got to go..
« Reply #37 on: June 22, 2023, 07:06:09 AM »

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Smart + two #1s for Spoelstra, haha.

Fire Joe ?   ;D

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« Reply #38 on: June 22, 2023, 09:28:41 AM »

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I'm keeping an eye on the Golden State pick. If they have injury problems, we could end up in the lottery.

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« Reply #39 on: June 22, 2023, 09:37:34 AM »

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I'm keeping an eye on the Golden State pick. If they have injury problems, we could end up in the lottery.

Another great pick watch!

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« Reply #40 on: June 22, 2023, 10:07:03 AM »

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I didn’t think Stevens had it in him to trade Smart lol not sold on the return though. Losing another guy who defined the defensive identity this team had. There better be another shoe to drop with those picks.

Not sold on the return? Two first rounders and KP. That’s an incredible return. Smarts defense was not great last year, neither was his decision making with the ball in his hand. He’s also turning 30 next season. This was the time to move him. Bravo, Brad.

As the saying goes, it's better to trade a year too early than year too late.
Back to wanting Joe fired.

Re: Smart’s got to go..
« Reply #41 on: June 22, 2023, 10:07:53 AM »

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I didn’t think Stevens had it in him to trade Smart lol not sold on the return though. Losing another guy who defined the defensive identity this team had. There better be another shoe to drop with those picks.

Not sold on the return? Two first rounders and KP. That’s an incredible return. Smarts defense was not great last year, neither was his decision making with the ball in his hand. He’s also turning 30 next season. This was the time to move him. Bravo, Brad.
Yeah, as far as prospective returns for Smart this is as good as I could have imagined. More talented player and draft capital in return!

Finally something we can agree on, Gouki!  :laugh:

I’m still in shock over this trade… Wow.

Updated depth chart anyone?

https://www.espn.com/nba/team/depth/_/name/bos

That depth chart puts Brogdon as starting pg. I think it’s DW.  But I also think Brad isn’t done.
Still having Brogdon (alongside Horford, and Grant in a potential S&T) there to dangle is super intriguing. Easily capable of putting together a significant offer

Sounds like Brogdons injury will prevent him from being traded this summer. I wouldn’t want to move Horford. He’s a perfect backup 4/5 and is making only $10M/year. They are going to need his leadership with Smart gone. I expect Grant and Pritchard to be traded.
« Last Edit: June 22, 2023, 10:21:35 AM by Goldstar88 »
Quoting Nick from the now locked Ime thread:
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At some point you have to blame the performance on the court on the players on the court. Every loss is not the coach's fault and every win isn't because of the players.

Re: Smart’s got to go..
« Reply #42 on: June 22, 2023, 02:58:41 PM »

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I will be rooting for Smart in Memphis, except when they play Boston. He was fortunate to be moved to a good team. Marcus will be their new Tony Allen.

Just like that, Smart — the most tenured Celtic, the sixth pick in the 2014 draft, the backbone of this franchise — was gone. According to league sources, Smart reacted to the news with disbelief. “A gut punch,” said one source close to the point guard. “Complete shock.” – via Boston Globe

Smart joined a brief call with his closest confidants late Wednesday night, sources said, and expressed hurt that out of all the guards on the roster, the Celtics decided to part ways with him. He had come so far with the franchise and was determined to hang its first championship banner since 2008. He believed they were so close. But as frustration began to swell, sources said, Smart quickly reset. He reminded those close to him that as personal as it might feel, and as strong as his ties to the organization seem, this is ultimately a business. And this is sometimes how things go. – via Boston Globe

« Last Edit: June 22, 2023, 03:17:38 PM by Goldstar88 »
Quoting Nick from the now locked Ime thread:
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At some point you have to blame the performance on the court on the players on the court. Every loss is not the coach's fault and every win isn't because of the players.

Re: Smart’s got to go..
« Reply #43 on: June 22, 2023, 03:12:45 PM »

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I'm keeping an eye on the Golden State pick. If they have injury problems, we could end up in the lottery.

Another great pick watch!

Yeah - always fun to pick watch throughout the season!

Re: Smart’s got to go..
« Reply #44 on: June 22, 2023, 05:16:48 PM »

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I didn’t think Stevens had it in him to trade Smart lol not sold on the return though. Losing another guy who defined the defensive identity this team had. There better be another shoe to drop with those picks.

Not sold on the return? Two first rounders and KP. That’s an incredible return. Smarts defense was not great last year, neither was his decision making with the ball in his hand. He’s also turning 30 next season. This was the time to move him. Bravo, Brad.
Yeah, as far as prospective returns for Smart this is as good as I could have imagined. More talented player and draft capital in return!

Finally something we can agree on, Gouki!  :laugh:

I’m still in shock over this trade… Wow.

Updated depth chart anyone?

https://www.espn.com/nba/team/depth/_/name/bos

That depth chart puts Brogdon as starting pg. I think it’s DW.  But I also think Brad isn’t done.
Still having Brogdon (alongside Horford, and Grant in a potential S&T) there to dangle is super intriguing. Easily capable of putting together a significant offer

Sounds like Brogdons injury will prevent him from being traded this summer. I wouldn’t want to move Horford. He’s a perfect backup 4/5 and is making only $10M/year. They are going to need his leadership with Smart gone. I expect Grant and Pritchard to be traded.
Does it? My understanding was that Brogdon didn’t get moved because there wasn’t time for a physical, not over too serious injury concerns.
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)