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Re: Heat (0-0) at Celtics (0-0) ECF Game #1 5/17/23
« Reply #810 on: May 17, 2023, 11:06:33 PM »

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If the other team hits 6 more threes than this Celtics team on better than 50% from three they aren't going to win that game.

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When you're regularly doubling off of corner three point shooters or playing way too far off on help defense, it's easy to hit more threes. Just an awful defensive strategy.



Their defense was atrocious. You think these clowns would get tired of no showing on defense and blowing games. Butler got to any spot on the floor that he wanted. Guys shooting wide open 3’s.
No wonder why they have now lost 4 games at home in the playoffs.

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Re: Heat (0-0) at Celtics (0-0) ECF Game #1 5/17/23
« Reply #811 on: May 17, 2023, 11:06:41 PM »

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Lo and behold, our star is out of rhythm

Kind of happens when you freeze him out and stop going to him after a masterful first half. Another coaching failure that he can't even recognize. Already getting coached circles around.

Ya I'm sorry can we not do this? Tatum just dropped 51 points like 4 days ago, now we have to pretend he's so mentally weak that him not getting the for a couple minutes caused hium to turn it over 3 times in like 60 seconds?

Nope. He made some mistakes. His fault, not the coaches.
It was the coaches fault that he didn't play an acceptable amount. The coach sucks

he played >41 minutes, more than any other celtic.

Re: Heat (0-0) at Celtics (0-0) ECF Game #1 5/17/23
« Reply #812 on: May 17, 2023, 11:07:16 PM »

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Lo and behold, our star is out of rhythm

Kind of happens when you freeze him out and stop going to him after a masterful first half. Another coaching failure that he can't even recognize. Already getting coached circles around.

Ya I'm sorry can we not do this? Tatum just dropped 51 points like 4 days ago, now we have to pretend he's so mentally weak that him not getting the for a couple minutes caused hium to turn it over 3 times in like 60 seconds?

Nope. He made some mistakes. His fault, not the coaches.

Who is calling him mentally weak? This is EVERY player. You can't just go from consistently getting the ball in the first half and getting in a rhythm, to barely getting any action and then expect to pick up right where you left off.

This has nothign to do with Tatum as a player. Every player is going to be like that, because it's about rhythm. That's on the coach to recognize this and make the appropriate adjustments, which of course does not happen with our kindergarten level coach.

I'm sorry, but no. I disagree with this entire sentiment. It was literally like a week ago where he missed almost literally every shot he took for 44 minutes then hit 4 threes to win game 6. He didn't need some great "rythm" then. he made plays. tonight was the opposite, great for 44 then nothing down the stretch. It happens.

A player sucking is on the player. Mazzula didn't force Tatum to throw the ball to Buitler, jump without a plan, or drag his pivot foot.

First off, your argument isn't valid and doesn't follow from the premises. Shooting and missing is NOT the same thing as not shooting at all. The old basketball adage is that "shooters shoot" and they'll eventually shoot themselves back into a rhythm. You simply can't do that if you're not getting the shots in teh first place, as it takes away your entire rhythm. And this is not even considering that we've seen all year long that everything runs through Tatum and we go as he goes. Icing him for most of the second half is absolutely a major mental mistake by both the team but especially the coach who is supposed to recognize that and adjust accordingly.
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Re: Heat (0-0) at Celtics (0-0) ECF Game #1 5/17/23
« Reply #813 on: May 17, 2023, 11:07:22 PM »

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Team was playing good ball when Smart was the facilitator. Then he decided to start shooting and forgot about assists.  That was when the game turned around. 
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Re: Heat (0-0) at Celtics (0-0) ECF Game #1 5/17/23
« Reply #814 on: May 17, 2023, 11:07:36 PM »

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This team really isn't fun to watch a good majority of the time. Complete opposite team from last year that was very easy to root for. Just dumb basketball from the head coach on down.

Yeah, I was just going to ask if anybody actually enjoys watching this team play anymore. Sure, they have their high moments, but they constantly disappoint and underachieve.

I wish I could become a game on in the background while I do other stuff during the regular season kind of guy. And just not watch the postseason at all. Only one team can win it all and it seems we are stuck with the early 90s Buffalo Bills.

Re: Heat (0-0) at Celtics (0-0) ECF Game #1 5/17/23
« Reply #815 on: May 17, 2023, 11:07:57 PM »

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If they play a "random" offense according to Smart.

If they don't play consistent, tough defense.

If they don't call timeouts.

If they continue to sleepwalk.

What does Joe actually do then?  Seriously.

Re: Heat (0-0) at Celtics (0-0) ECF Game #1 5/17/23
« Reply #816 on: May 17, 2023, 11:08:51 PM »

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TNT On YouTube tv blew that for me. Whole second half was out. 🤬🤬

My TNT/YouTube TV stayed on.
Where are you ?

On second thought, you were the fortunate one for not having to watch that meltdown.
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Re: Heat (0-0) at Celtics (0-0) ECF Game #1 5/17/23
« Reply #817 on: May 17, 2023, 11:09:52 PM »

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If they play a "random" offense according to Smart.

If they don't play consistent, tough defense.

If they don't call timeouts.

If they continue to sleepwalk.

What does Joe actually do then?  Seriously.

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Re: Heat (0-0) at Celtics (0-0) ECF Game #1 5/17/23
« Reply #818 on: May 17, 2023, 11:10:22 PM »

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If they play a "random" offense according to Smart.

If they don't play consistent, tough defense.

If they don't call timeouts.

If they continue to sleepwalk.

What does Joe actually do then?  Seriously.

Apparently he quotes the movie, The Town, a lot. That has to count for something.

Re: Heat (0-0) at Celtics (0-0) ECF Game #1 5/17/23
« Reply #819 on: May 17, 2023, 11:11:08 PM »

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Lo and behold, our star is out of rhythm

Kind of happens when you freeze him out and stop going to him after a masterful first half. Another coaching failure that he can't even recognize. Already getting coached circles around.

Ya I'm sorry can we not do this? Tatum just dropped 51 points like 4 days ago, now we have to pretend he's so mentally weak that him not getting the for a couple minutes caused hium to turn it over 3 times in like 60 seconds?

Nope. He made some mistakes. His fault, not the coaches.

Who is calling him mentally weak? This is EVERY player. You can't just go from consistently getting the ball in the first half and getting in a rhythm, to barely getting any action and then expect to pick up right where you left off.

This has nothign to do with Tatum as a player. Every player is going to be like that, because it's about rhythm. That's on the coach to recognize this and make the appropriate adjustments, which of course does not happen with our kindergarten level coach.

I'm sorry, but no. I disagree with this entire sentiment. It was literally like a week ago where he missed almost literally every shot he took for 44 minutes then hit 4 threes to win game 6. He didn't need some great "rythm" then. he made plays. tonight was the opposite, great for 44 then nothing down the stretch. It happens.

A player sucking is on the player. Mazzula didn't force Tatum to throw the ball to Buitler, jump without a plan, or drag his pivot foot.

First off, your argument isn't valid and doesn't follow from the premises. Shooting and missing is NOT the same thing as not shooting at all. The old basketball adage is that "shooters shoot" and they'll eventually shoot themselves back into a rhythm. You simply can't do that if you're not getting the shots in teh first place, as it takes away your entire rhythm. And this is not even considering that we've seen all year long that everything runs through Tatum and we go as he goes. Icing him for most of the second half is absolutely a major mental mistake by both the team but especially the coach who is supposed to recognize that and adjust accordingly.

Mazzula has his problems but this is one Mazzula tried to fix by calling a timeout and getting Tatum involved and first thing Tatum does is throw the ball to Butler.

Honestly i don't even think how much Tatum was involved was even a problem. The C's got great looks preceding the Tatum turnover stretch. Wide open three from brown. Wide open three from Horford. Didn't knock either down. Sometimes you run good offense and just don't hit shots. 

You want to criticize Mazzula ask why the hell he's playing Payton Pritchard in the ECF.

Re: Heat (0-0) at Celtics (0-0) ECF Game #1 5/17/23
« Reply #820 on: May 17, 2023, 11:11:51 PM »

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Lo and behold, our star is out of rhythm

Kind of happens when you freeze him out and stop going to him after a masterful first half. Another coaching failure that he can't even recognize. Already getting coached circles around.

Ya I'm sorry can we not do this? Tatum just dropped 51 points like 4 days ago, now we have to pretend he's so mentally weak that him not getting the for a couple minutes caused hium to turn it over 3 times in like 60 seconds?

Nope. He made some mistakes. His fault, not the coaches.
It was the coaches fault that he didn't play an acceptable amount. The coach sucks

he played >41 minutes, more than any other celtic.
And he should have played more. Butler played more. There were critical moments when he should have been inserted (and fed) and wasn't. Conversely, Brown played too much. White did not play nearly enough
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Re: Heat (0-0) at Celtics (0-0) ECF Game #1 5/17/23
« Reply #821 on: May 17, 2023, 11:12:11 PM »

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TNT On YouTube tv blew that for me. Whole second half was out. 🤬🤬

My TNT/YouTube TV stayed on.
Where are you ?

On second thought, you were the fortunate one for not having to watch that meltdown.
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Re: Heat (0-0) at Celtics (0-0) ECF Game #1 5/17/23
« Reply #822 on: May 17, 2023, 11:12:35 PM »

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This team is so exhausting to watch. Can’t trust them at all

Re: Heat (0-0) at Celtics (0-0) ECF Game #1 5/17/23
« Reply #823 on: May 17, 2023, 11:12:48 PM »

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TNT On YouTube tv blew that for me. Whole second half was out. 🤬🤬

My TNT/YouTube TV stayed on.
Where are you ?

On second thought, you were the fortunate one for not having to watch that meltdown.

I’m in Vermont and TNT on YouTube TV went out with about 4 minutes to go. I was kind of happy about it

Re: Heat (0-0) at Celtics (0-0) ECF Game #1 5/17/23
« Reply #824 on: May 17, 2023, 11:14:21 PM »

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Lo and behold, our star is out of rhythm

Kind of happens when you freeze him out and stop going to him after a masterful first half. Another coaching failure that he can't even recognize. Already getting coached circles around.

Ya I'm sorry can we not do this? Tatum just dropped 51 points like 4 days ago, now we have to pretend he's so mentally weak that him not getting the for a couple minutes caused hium to turn it over 3 times in like 60 seconds?

Nope. He made some mistakes. His fault, not the coaches.
It was the coaches fault that he didn't play an acceptable amount. The coach sucks

he played >41 minutes, more than any other celtic.
And he should have played more. Butler played more. There were critical moments when he should have been inserted (and fed) and wasn't. Conversely, Brown played too much. White did not play nearly enough

Tatum was -9 in this game. Brown was +1. Single game plus minus is obviously noisy but they didn't really lose because Tatum didn't play enough. They lost becasue when he did play they got outscored.