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Re: Western Conference Finals
« Reply #240 on: May 18, 2023, 09:41:17 PM »

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There you go!

That is how you defend the LeBron high PnR. Force the screener to make a jump shot especially if it is AD. Great job by Jokic to seal off the paint and force AD into a shot that he has shot terribly this year.

Re: Western Conference Finals
« Reply #241 on: May 18, 2023, 09:41:18 PM »

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This is the worst game van gundy and Jackson have called. The head of refereeing clearly explained why it was a flagrant and they are still whining about it a quarter later and openly mocking the refs. That’s just not good for the product

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« Reply #242 on: May 18, 2023, 09:42:22 PM »

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I think the Embid over jokic mvp is going to age like milk. Their impact on the game is just not close

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« Reply #243 on: May 18, 2023, 09:42:40 PM »

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Jokic dominating Davis on both ends right now and Davis looks scared. Only thing keeping nuggets close right now

I don't think AD is scared of Jokic but I definitely think AD is scared to shoot a jumper. His confidence is shot. He has missed so many in the previous two series. He has no confidence in his jump-shot.

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« Reply #244 on: May 18, 2023, 09:43:10 PM »

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Terrible defense by Lebron there. Half hearted swipe at ball and gives up uncontested dunk to a lousy foul shooter. Nuggets are back!

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« Reply #245 on: May 18, 2023, 09:43:49 PM »

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Jokic's positioning off the ball on defense is brilliant. He is cutting off so many driving lanes for LAL's players.

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« Reply #246 on: May 18, 2023, 09:45:27 PM »

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Ooof, Murray made that a tough shot on himself.

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« Reply #247 on: May 18, 2023, 09:47:28 PM »

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Denver lucky not to be down more. They haven't played a good game. Jokic has bailed the others out with his strong play. The other guys need to step up.

MPJ, Bruce Brown, KCP, A Gordon. Step up.

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« Reply #248 on: May 18, 2023, 09:48:23 PM »

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Denver has to be feeling good to only be down 5 despite all that, including a big LAL run, Hachimura looking like Japanese Jordan and the referees
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« Reply #249 on: May 18, 2023, 09:50:00 PM »

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Well everyone in the nuggets has played pretty awful except for brilliance from jokic (Murray 3-13 with a decent amount of open threes missing). Lakers Lebron has been solid, Davis bad, hachimura on pace for best game of his career. Everyone else for lakers has been pretty irrelevant . Celtics strong favorite vanderbilt again a -8 in 8 minutes. Not sure we will see him in second half much.

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« Reply #250 on: May 18, 2023, 10:07:44 PM »

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Murray and Porter stinking up the joint.

Re: Western Conference Finals
« Reply #251 on: May 18, 2023, 10:12:20 PM »

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I'd like to see Vanderbilt play differently on defense.

Sort of the inverse of the Hachimura & AD partnership where Hachimura is the man defender on Jokic and they use AD as the free safety cleaning up on team D and giving a big man double team onto Jokic. So the inverse being AD as the man defender on Jokic and Vanderbilt as the free safety & big man double team.

Vanderbilt is playing too stagnant on defense off the ball. He is guarding a very limited offensive threat in A Gordon. A guy who does not look to score most of the time. Vanderbilt needs to be much more aggressive / active as a help defender playing off of Gordon. He needs to be concentrated on reducing driving lanes, reducing passing lanes, clogging lanes for cutters and being the main helper (big man help) on Jokic.

Vanderbilt is very good defensively in normal circumstances and very good at forcing turnovers. The question is does Vanderbilt have the defensive IQ to be a defensive playmaker off the ball like this? I haven't seen him do it before. He has struggled with it tonight. He is playing too passively on defense and more towards being a solid system defender rather than a free safety type who does his own thing.

Anyway, I'd love to see him try. If he cannot do this, he does not have much value in this series. He is a liability if he continues to play this way in the 2nd half.

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« Reply #252 on: May 18, 2023, 10:15:21 PM »

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« Reply #253 on: May 18, 2023, 10:17:46 PM »

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Re: Western Conference Finals
« Reply #254 on: May 18, 2023, 10:18:03 PM »

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I'd like to see Vanderbilt play differently on defense.

Sort of the inverse of the Hachimura & AD partnership where Hachimura is the man defender on Jokic and they use AD as the free safety cleaning up on team D and giving a big man double team onto Jokic. So the inverse being AD as the man defender on Jokic and Vanderbilt as the free safety & big man double team.

Vanderbilt is playing too stagnant on defense off the ball. He is guarding a very limited offensive threat in A Gordon. A guy who does not look to score most of the time. Vanderbilt needs to be much more aggressive / active as a help defender playing off of Gordon. He needs to be concentrated on reducing driving lanes, reducing passing lanes, clogging lanes for cutters and being the main helper (big man help) on Jokic.

Vanderbilt is very good defensively in normal circumstances and very good at forcing turnovers. The question is does Vanderbilt have the defensive IQ to be a defensive playmaker off the ball like this? I haven't seen him do it before. He has struggled with it tonight. He is playing too passively on defense and more towards being a solid system defender rather than a free safety type who does his own thing.

Anyway, I'd love to see him try. If he cannot do this, he does not have much value in this series. He is a liability if he continues to play this way in the 2nd half.

He is so bad offensively it doesn’t really even matter. This is why he is on back end of lakers rotation despite starting. Don’t believe he has cracked 20 minutes since game 2 of warriors.