Why did PJ get away with a groin shot on Tatam?

[Big333223]

I don't believe Tucker didn't know Tatum was there. Sorry. I think he got away with one.

[GreenEnvy]

I don't believe Tucker didn't know Tatum was there. Sorry. I think he got away with one.

It’s crazy that people think it was an accident. Nothing about that was a natural motion. He saw Tatum make the pass past him to the right as Tatum went past his left, he then flung his arm around with clear intention to whack Tatum. Maybe not where it landed, but he meant to catch him.

Ridiculous that it wasn’t reviewed, for whatever reason they want to blame it on.

[Yuckabuck33]

Refs said it wasn't a reviewable play.  I have no idea regarding the rules of when the refs can look at a play for a flagrant, and when they can't.

So hypothetically, if PJ had punched Tatum in the face and no ref saw it, there would be no review. I don't buy they couldn't look at it because every time a dude lands on the floor they look to see if it was a flagrant.

Forget hypotheticals. Remember Game 5 1987 ECF when Robert Parish punched Bill Laimbeer in the face and no foul was called?

[radiohead]

This is a totally different era though. They review almost everything. Just look at Dejounte’s suspension. His offense came after the game. Why can’t they look at that dirty move by PJ? Or check if Embiid entered the playing court during the whole fracas.

[droopdog7]

I don't believe Tucker didn't know Tatum was there. Sorry. I think he got away with one.

It’s crazy that people think it was an accident. Nothing about that was a natural motion. He saw Tatum make the pass past him to the right as Tatum went past his left, he then flung his arm around with clear intention to whack Tatum. Maybe not where it landed, but he meant to catch him.

Ridiculous that it wasn’t reviewed, for whatever reason they want to blame it on.

Who says anything about a natural motion and what does that mean anyway?  Tucker swung his arm in frustration.  He didn’t know Tatum we there and for anyone to say otherwise is to call him a completely dirty player who intentionally punched JT in the nuts because I guess, he’s evil.

Let’s try to be at least somewhat borderline objective sometimes.

[tenn_smoothie]

Refs said it wasn't a reviewable play.  I have no idea regarding the rules of when the refs can look at a play for a flagrant, and when they can't.

So hypothetically, if PJ had punched Tatum in the face and no ref saw it, there would be no review. I don't buy they couldn't look at it because every time a dude lands on the floor they look to see if it was a flagrant.

Forget hypotheticals. Remember Game 5 1987 ECF when Robert Parish punched Bill Laimbeer in the face and no foul was called?

That was because the officials viewed the punch as warranted.

[Big333223]

I don't believe Tucker didn't know Tatum was there. Sorry. I think he got away with one.

It’s crazy that people think it was an accident. Nothing about that was a natural motion. He saw Tatum make the pass past him to the right as Tatum went past his left, he then flung his arm around with clear intention to whack Tatum. Maybe not where it landed, but he meant to catch him.

Ridiculous that it wasn’t reviewed, for whatever reason they want to blame it on.

Who says anything about a natural motion and what does that mean anyway?  Tucker swung his arm in frustration.  He didn’t know Tatum we there and for anyone to say otherwise is to call him a completely dirty player who intentionally punched JT in the nuts because I guess, he’s evil.

Let’s try to be at least somewhat borderline objective sometimes.

I don't buy that. Watch the clip again. Tucker is watching Tatum come down the court, measuring him as they get closer to the basket. Tatum doesn't come out of nowhere, Tucker knows exactly where he is when he turns to follow the pass. And then when he swings his arm backwards and hits Tatum he doesn't look to see what his hand just hit, I believe, because he already knew he hit Tatum.

That doesn't make Tucker evil but Tucker is definitely a guy who lets his emotions get the better of him pretty often and acts out.

[86MaxwellSmart]

I don't believe Tucker didn't know Tatum was there. Sorry. I think he got away with one.

It’s crazy that people think it was an accident. Nothing about that was a natural motion. He saw Tatum make the pass past him to the right as Tatum went past his left, he then flung his arm around with clear intention to whack Tatum. Maybe not where it landed, but he meant to catch him.

Ridiculous that it wasn’t reviewed, for whatever reason they want to blame it on.

Who says anything about a natural motion and what does that mean anyway?  Tucker swung his arm in frustration.  He didn’t know Tatum we there and for anyone to say otherwise is to call him a completely dirty player who intentionally punched JT in the nuts because I guess, he’s evil.

Let’s try to be at least somewhat borderline objective sometimes.

I don't buy that. Watch the clip again. Tucker is watching Tatum come down the court, measuring him as they get closer to the basket. Tatum doesn't come out of nowhere, Tucker knows exactly where he is when he turns to follow the pass. And then when he swings his arm backwards and hits Tatum he doesn't look to see what his hand just hit, I believe, because he already knew he hit Tatum.

That doesn't make Tucker evil but Tucker is definitely a guy who lets his emotions get the better of him pretty often and acts out.

He absolutely knew Tatum was coming down the lane---I fully expected Tatum to get two FTs and the ball back...cost us at least 2 points maybe 5 points....but they came out of commercial and the 76ers were inbounding the the ball...I was like what the hell???

[Vermont Green]

What I don't understand is if it was a reviewable incident or not as it was a "no-call".  I can understand an official missing it or depending on the angle, thinking it wasn't intentional, but with all the replay angles, it was clear to me that it was worthy of a technical foul at least and maybe a flagrant.

Ancient history now though.

Celtics need to just keep doing what they know they need to do.

[liam]

What I don't understand is if it was a reviewable incident or not as it was a "no-call".  I can understand an official missing it or depending on the angle, thinking it wasn't intentional, but with all the replay angles, it was clear to me that it was worthy of a technical foul at least and maybe a flagrant.

Ancient history now though.

Celtics need to just keep doing what they know they need to do.

The league could've looked at this after the game. If you're a Sixer you get to touch anyone's nuts.

[hwangjini_1]

Refs said it wasn't a reviewable play.  I have no idea regarding the rules of when the refs can look at a play for a flagrant, and when they can't.

So hypothetically, if PJ had punched Tatum in the face and no ref saw it, there would be no review. I don't buy they couldn't look at it because every time a dude lands on the floor they look to see if it was a flagrant.

Forget hypotheticals. Remember Game 5 1987 ECF when Robert Parish punched Bill Laimbeer in the face and no foul was called?

another great moment in celtics history. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4kmMJ4MKW0

[droopdog7]

I don't believe Tucker didn't know Tatum was there. Sorry. I think he got away with one.

It’s crazy that people think it was an accident. Nothing about that was a natural motion. He saw Tatum make the pass past him to the right as Tatum went past his left, he then flung his arm around with clear intention to whack Tatum. Maybe not where it landed, but he meant to catch him.

Ridiculous that it wasn’t reviewed, for whatever reason they want to blame it on.

Who says anything about a natural motion and what does that mean anyway?  Tucker swung his arm in frustration.  He didn’t know Tatum we there and for anyone to say otherwise is to call him a completely dirty player who intentionally punched JT in the nuts because I guess, he’s evil.

Let’s try to be at least somewhat borderline objective sometimes.

I don't buy that. Watch the clip again. Tucker is watching Tatum come down the court, measuring him as they get closer to the basket. Tatum doesn't come out of nowhere, Tucker knows exactly where he is when he turns to follow the pass. And then when he swings his arm backwards and hits Tatum he doesn't look to see what his hand just hit, I believe, because he already knew he hit Tatum.

That doesn't make Tucker evil but Tucker is definitely a guy who lets his emotions get the better of him pretty often and acts out.

He absolutely knew Tatum was coming down the lane---I fully expected Tatum to get two FTs and the ball back...cost us at least 2 points maybe 5 points....but they came out of commercial and the 76ers were inbounding the the ball...I was like what the hell???

Seen the clip many times and all I can say is that we live in two different realities. 

https://twitter.com/somedubvids/status/1653210538598621184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1653210538598621184%7Ctwgr%5Efc63e0946287b3608a474471a19c0ec413e43567%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fuproxx.com%2Fdimemag%2Fjayson-tatum-nut-shot-video-pj-tucker-celtics-76ers%2F

[Neurotic Guy]

I don't believe Tucker didn't know Tatum was there. Sorry. I think he got away with one.

It’s crazy that people think it was an accident. Nothing about that was a natural motion. He saw Tatum make the pass past him to the right as Tatum went past his left, he then flung his arm around with clear intention to whack Tatum. Maybe not where it landed, but he meant to catch him.

Ridiculous that it wasn’t reviewed, for whatever reason they want to blame it on.

Who says anything about a natural motion and what does that mean anyway?  Tucker swung his arm in frustration.  He didn’t know Tatum we there and for anyone to say otherwise is to call him a completely dirty player who intentionally punched JT in the nuts because I guess, he’s evil.

Let’s try to be at least somewhat borderline objective sometimes.

I don't buy that. Watch the clip again. Tucker is watching Tatum come down the court, measuring him as they get closer to the basket. Tatum doesn't come out of nowhere, Tucker knows exactly where he is when he turns to follow the pass. And then when he swings his arm backwards and hits Tatum he doesn't look to see what his hand just hit, I believe, because he already knew he hit Tatum.

That doesn't make Tucker evil but Tucker is definitely a guy who lets his emotions get the better of him pretty often and acts out.

He absolutely knew Tatum was coming down the lane---I fully expected Tatum to get two FTs and the ball back...cost us at least 2 points maybe 5 points....but they came out of commercial and the 76ers were inbounding the the ball...I was like what the hell???

Seen the clip many times and all I can say is that we live in two different realities. 

https://twitter.com/somedubvids/status/1653210538598621184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1653210538598621184%7Ctwgr%5Efc63e0946287b3608a474471a19c0ec413e43567%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fuproxx.com%2Fdimemag%2Fjayson-tatum-nut-shot-video-pj-tucker-celtics-76ers%2F

I give it a 1% chance that PJ was swinging for nuts.

I’d say high likelihood that PJ swung his arm instinctively, knowing Tatum was charging to the hoop in order to impeded Tatum even if slightly.  No ill intent but worthy of a foul call imo. Theis would have been called.

[droopdog7]

I don't believe Tucker didn't know Tatum was there. Sorry. I think he got away with one.

It’s crazy that people think it was an accident. Nothing about that was a natural motion. He saw Tatum make the pass past him to the right as Tatum went past his left, he then flung his arm around with clear intention to whack Tatum. Maybe not where it landed, but he meant to catch him.

Ridiculous that it wasn’t reviewed, for whatever reason they want to blame it on.

Who says anything about a natural motion and what does that mean anyway?  Tucker swung his arm in frustration.  He didn’t know Tatum we there and for anyone to say otherwise is to call him a completely dirty player who intentionally punched JT in the nuts because I guess, he’s evil.

Let’s try to be at least somewhat borderline objective sometimes.

I don't buy that. Watch the clip again. Tucker is watching Tatum come down the court, measuring him as they get closer to the basket. Tatum doesn't come out of nowhere, Tucker knows exactly where he is when he turns to follow the pass. And then when he swings his arm backwards and hits Tatum he doesn't look to see what his hand just hit, I believe, because he already knew he hit Tatum.

That doesn't make Tucker evil but Tucker is definitely a guy who lets his emotions get the better of him pretty often and acts out.

He absolutely knew Tatum was coming down the lane---I fully expected Tatum to get two FTs and the ball back...cost us at least 2 points maybe 5 points....but they came out of commercial and the 76ers were inbounding the the ball...I was like what the hell???

Seen the clip many times and all I can say is that we live in two different realities. 

https://twitter.com/somedubvids/status/1653210538598621184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1653210538598621184%7Ctwgr%5Efc63e0946287b3608a474471a19c0ec413e43567%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fuproxx.com%2Fdimemag%2Fjayson-tatum-nut-shot-video-pj-tucker-celtics-76ers%2F

I give it a 1% chance that PJ was swinging for nuts.

I’d say high likelihood that PJ swung his arm instinctively, knowing Tatum was charging to the hoop in order to impeded Tatum even if slightly.  No ill intent but worthy of a foul call imo. Theis would have been called.

I think it's okay to use common sense.  As I recall, the sixers were getting back in transition and someone clearly blew an assignment.  You can see tucker come to that realization as he looks to the corner and see no one there.  For a split second, I seems to want to will the defender next to him to be other there.  Then he clearly swings his arm in frustration.  It was not any kind of block out attempt for sure.  And while he might have been able to predict that JT was there, I would say the odds of that are about 1%.

And then you have to also infer that PJ is the kind of guy that would intentionally swing at a guy in any situation, for no apparent reason except to hurt the guy.  I understand gamesmanship, and doing things to agitate, and stuff like that.  But this action, if on purpose, would cross all those lines. 

So taken all that into account, I am fairly certain it was not on purpose.

[BASS_THUMPER]

*sippin*