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Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #765 on: May 22, 2023, 03:07:40 AM »

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Watching this interview just shows how far apart we are in terms of coaching. Spo mentioned the growing pains of trying something new  as the season went along. That the losses only made them stronger and made them work harder. He also mentioned how they have this “pent up anger” which he didn’t exactly say why, but probably implied that they wanted to get back at Boston for losing out last season.

Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #766 on: May 22, 2023, 04:09:01 AM »

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This has been a ticking time bomb since they ost the coach they wanted to lead them Udoka.
I don’t think any of the players disliked Joe .  But they thought they had a solid core of great coaches who had their backs …who just evaporated seemingly over night and left them with a guy that they may not have trusted to be THE head coach for years to come.

The players should have MORE say about Udoka ,  instead they were blindsided ,  and their concerns or feelings were not considered.  I think Brown , Smart , White and Brogdon were NOT the happy campers with Boston’s front office decision.

They knew Joe was not a full time head coach material .  But didn’t speak up when they should have .

Yeah, it's so hard to know what to think about the Ime situation, because so little reliable information came out about it. On one hand, that's good to handle your affairs (no pun intended  ;D) privately, but on the other hand when you're having to dismiss a popular coach like this, can't give a real solid reason why, and it leads to this kind of downfall, that's a problem.

Hard situation. The fact that Ime was hired so quickly after being dismissed here suggests that it was an affair with someone within or associated with the organization, which made a return untenable. Just unfortunate that Ime couldn't keep it in his pants.

We've been through this in other threads but just to get everyone else back up to speed, the bolded is far and away the positive spin on the best guess, and the silence was always going to be expected on both sides. That's just how public-facing corporations deal with these kinds of situations when you have longer-term contracts at play.

Keeping in mind that we made it to the Finals on the back of one missed three pointer last season, I'd say the difference between Udoka and Mazza (assuming they each get one season as Boston HC, which looks possible) could come down to winning in 7 in the ECF or getting swept in the ECF. That's not the end of the world, but it's certainly a step back - even if some of this is also on Horford's decline and our shallowness at the big position.

edit: a word.
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"...unceasingly we are bombarded with pseudo-realities manufactured by very sophisticated people using very sophisticated electronic mechanisms. I do not distrust their motives; I distrust their power. They have a lot of it."

Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #767 on: May 22, 2023, 04:32:03 AM »

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Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #768 on: May 22, 2023, 06:10:18 AM »

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if Bud and Nick Nurse got fired. idk how you don't fire mazzulla.

its either the players or the coaching if you are ownership....and a lesser version of this team made the playoffs last year. so its pretty obviously coaching.

if he's already lost the team, thats it. its over. its a shame that we wasted one of the best rosters in years on this guy. with those comments from him you cant bring him back. I mean you had Horford coaching during timeouts. where is your head coach?

a team with this caliber roster shouldn't have that kind of coaching staff.

Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #769 on: May 22, 2023, 07:11:08 AM »

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I can’t imagine a scenario where we keep Joe and all the core players. There’s certainly something wrong. If Brad insists on keeping Joe, I think we’ll see some main guys traded. I’m guessing one would be Smart, specially after he basically threw Joe under the bus in one interview.

Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #770 on: May 22, 2023, 07:22:06 AM »

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I can’t imagine a scenario where we keep Joe and all the core players. There’s certainly something wrong. If Brad insists on keeping Joe, I think we’ll see some main guys traded. I’m guessing one would be Smart, specially after he basically threw Joe under the bus in one interview.

If you are keeping Joe and trading core players because they "called out Joe" then Brad has no feel on the team.

you have a team that played tough defense that made it to the finals.

you UPGRADED the roster and now have a team that plays no defense and is swept by an 8th seed in the ECF.

only thing changed is the coaching.....but its the players?

Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #771 on: May 22, 2023, 08:38:47 AM »

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NO MORE DOCTORS

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Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #772 on: May 22, 2023, 08:44:24 AM »

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Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #773 on: May 22, 2023, 08:46:31 AM »

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i will take him over joe or doc rivers
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Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #774 on: May 22, 2023, 08:48:49 AM »

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Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #775 on: May 22, 2023, 09:19:00 AM »

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I prefer Nick nurse at this point or Jay wright.

Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #776 on: May 22, 2023, 09:20:44 AM »

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I prefer Nick nurse at this point or Jay wright.

nurse is the top guy

brad should already have him on retainer in a backdoor deal  if he knows anything about being a GM.

joe is gone. if not it will be suicide for this franchise. wyc may be cheap but he is not that dumb. or so id like to think.
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Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #777 on: May 22, 2023, 09:23:46 AM »

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Bring Bird back to run it. Let him pick his own coach.

Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #778 on: May 22, 2023, 09:25:23 AM »

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Bring Bird back to run it. Let him pick his own coach.

id take him over soft weak brad all day
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Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #779 on: May 22, 2023, 09:27:40 AM »

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Build a wall Van Gundy is a pretty decent coach, to be honest.
"...unceasingly we are bombarded with pseudo-realities manufactured by very sophisticated people using very sophisticated electronic mechanisms. I do not distrust their motives; I distrust their power. They have a lot of it."