Celtics Sign Justin Champagnie to 15th Roster Spot

[gouki88]

I can see why Stevens signed Champagnie; he has potential. From the few highlights that I've seen, he's shown the same strengths that this scouting report highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTzlRXGXrx0&ab_channel=AdamSpinella

In addition to that, he has good handles and driving ability for a former college big, and plays at a controlled pace; and the most important for Stevens, he's a versatile defender (has the athleticism, agility, strength, and length to effectively guard 2-4).

I don't expect a player filling the 15th roster spot to receive minutes outside of blowouts and practice this season; but if he does and plays well, we'll have advanced clarity on the the Grant-Celtics extension.

Fun video. Liked a lot about his game; at one point tho, it said "best in a role where he can stay close to the basket". That was not encouraging for a 6'6" player. Which, I suppose, is why he's fighting for a spot at the end of the bench. But who knows. Good luck, Justin C. Have a productive summer!

I think Champagnie is taller than Grant.

Grant doesn’t have to play close to the basket on offense, and he’s freakishly strong - strong enough that Embiid and Giannis can’t root him easily. If Justin C can turn himself into a 40% 3-point shooter and is a versatile defender, he has a bright future in this league. If he can’t shoot and depends on putbacks and back cuts, the road is a lot harder.

Asking someone who shot 28% from 3pt in college to become a 40% shooter from deep is a near impossible ask. There is a reason he only averaged 0.8 shots per game from 3pt last year.

Also, he’s 6’6”/206lbs. That’s not someone that is going to be guarding PF’s in the NBA.

Ironically, you've just described Grant Williams

So are you saying that since Grant did it, anyone can?

Please quote me saying that.

It's just funny that a really obvious example was a part of this conversation, yet you wrote it as "near impossible".

There are also plenty of examples in general. Al Horford, Tyrese Maxey, Kawhi Leonard, Jerami Grant, De'Anthony Melton, Jrue Holiday, Mike Conley and more are all guys who were 30% or thereabouts in college (except Horford, who was 0%) and have turned into elite shooters from deep. That was just from looking at this season's leader-board too.

[Goldstar88]

I can see why Stevens signed Champagnie; he has potential. From the few highlights that I've seen, he's shown the same strengths that this scouting report highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTzlRXGXrx0&ab_channel=AdamSpinella

In addition to that, he has good handles and driving ability for a former college big, and plays at a controlled pace; and the most important for Stevens, he's a versatile defender (has the athleticism, agility, strength, and length to effectively guard 2-4).

I don't expect a player filling the 15th roster spot to receive minutes outside of blowouts and practice this season; but if he does and plays well, we'll have advanced clarity on the the Grant-Celtics extension.

Fun video. Liked a lot about his game; at one point tho, it said "best in a role where he can stay close to the basket". That was not encouraging for a 6'6" player. Which, I suppose, is why he's fighting for a spot at the end of the bench. But who knows. Good luck, Justin C. Have a productive summer!

I think Champagnie is taller than Grant.

Grant doesn’t have to play close to the basket on offense, and he’s freakishly strong - strong enough that Embiid and Giannis can’t root him easily. If Justin C can turn himself into a 40% 3-point shooter and is a versatile defender, he has a bright future in this league. If he can’t shoot and depends on putbacks and back cuts, the road is a lot harder.

Asking someone who shot 28% from 3pt in college to become a 40% shooter from deep is a near impossible ask. There is a reason he only averaged 0.8 shots per game from 3pt last year.

Also, he’s 6’6”/206lbs. That’s not someone that is going to be guarding PF’s in the NBA.

Ironically, you've just described Grant Williams

So are you saying that since Grant did it, anyone can?

Please quote me saying that.

It's just funny that a really obvious example was a part of this conversation, yet you wrote it as "near impossible".

There are also plenty of examples in general. Al Horford, Tyrese Maxey, Kawhi Leonard, Jerami Grant, De'Anthony Melton, Jrue Holiday, Mike Conley and more are all guys who were 30% or thereabouts in college (except Horford, who was 0%) and have turned into elite shooters from deep. That was just from looking at this season's leader-board too.

Just trying to figure out what you meant. So all those guys listed are career 40% 3pt shooters?  Or did they do it just once, or…

[gouki88]

I can see why Stevens signed Champagnie; he has potential. From the few highlights that I've seen, he's shown the same strengths that this scouting report highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTzlRXGXrx0&ab_channel=AdamSpinella

In addition to that, he has good handles and driving ability for a former college big, and plays at a controlled pace; and the most important for Stevens, he's a versatile defender (has the athleticism, agility, strength, and length to effectively guard 2-4).

I don't expect a player filling the 15th roster spot to receive minutes outside of blowouts and practice this season; but if he does and plays well, we'll have advanced clarity on the the Grant-Celtics extension.

Fun video. Liked a lot about his game; at one point tho, it said "best in a role where he can stay close to the basket". That was not encouraging for a 6'6" player. Which, I suppose, is why he's fighting for a spot at the end of the bench. But who knows. Good luck, Justin C. Have a productive summer!

I think Champagnie is taller than Grant.

Grant doesn’t have to play close to the basket on offense, and he’s freakishly strong - strong enough that Embiid and Giannis can’t root him easily. If Justin C can turn himself into a 40% 3-point shooter and is a versatile defender, he has a bright future in this league. If he can’t shoot and depends on putbacks and back cuts, the road is a lot harder.

Asking someone who shot 28% from 3pt in college to become a 40% shooter from deep is a near impossible ask. There is a reason he only averaged 0.8 shots per game from 3pt last year.

Also, he’s 6’6”/206lbs. That’s not someone that is going to be guarding PF’s in the NBA.

Ironically, you've just described Grant Williams

So are you saying that since Grant did it, anyone can?

Please quote me saying that.

It's just funny that a really obvious example was a part of this conversation, yet you wrote it as "near impossible".

There are also plenty of examples in general. Al Horford, Tyrese Maxey, Kawhi Leonard, Jerami Grant, De'Anthony Melton, Jrue Holiday, Mike Conley and more are all guys who were 30% or thereabouts in college (except Horford, who was 0%) and have turned into elite shooters from deep. That was just from looking at this season's leader-board too.

Just trying to figure out what you meant. So all those guys listed are career 40% 3pt shooters?  Or did they do it just once, or…

Do you not have access to the internet?

The point is that it is, in fact, not remotely a "near impossible ask".

[Goldstar88]

I can see why Stevens signed Champagnie; he has potential. From the few highlights that I've seen, he's shown the same strengths that this scouting report highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTzlRXGXrx0&ab_channel=AdamSpinella

In addition to that, he has good handles and driving ability for a former college big, and plays at a controlled pace; and the most important for Stevens, he's a versatile defender (has the athleticism, agility, strength, and length to effectively guard 2-4).

I don't expect a player filling the 15th roster spot to receive minutes outside of blowouts and practice this season; but if he does and plays well, we'll have advanced clarity on the the Grant-Celtics extension.

Fun video. Liked a lot about his game; at one point tho, it said "best in a role where he can stay close to the basket". That was not encouraging for a 6'6" player. Which, I suppose, is why he's fighting for a spot at the end of the bench. But who knows. Good luck, Justin C. Have a productive summer!

I think Champagnie is taller than Grant.

Grant doesn’t have to play close to the basket on offense, and he’s freakishly strong - strong enough that Embiid and Giannis can’t root him easily. If Justin C can turn himself into a 40% 3-point shooter and is a versatile defender, he has a bright future in this league. If he can’t shoot and depends on putbacks and back cuts, the road is a lot harder.

Asking someone who shot 28% from 3pt in college to become a 40% shooter from deep is a near impossible ask. There is a reason he only averaged 0.8 shots per game from 3pt last year.

Also, he’s 6’6”/206lbs. That’s not someone that is going to be guarding PF’s in the NBA.

Ironically, you've just described Grant Williams

So are you saying that since Grant did it, anyone can?

Please quote me saying that.

It's just funny that a really obvious example was a part of this conversation, yet you wrote it as "near impossible".

There are also plenty of examples in general. Al Horford, Tyrese Maxey, Kawhi Leonard, Jerami Grant, De'Anthony Melton, Jrue Holiday, Mike Conley and more are all guys who were 30% or thereabouts in college (except Horford, who was 0%) and have turned into elite shooters from deep. That was just from looking at this season's leader-board too.

Just trying to figure out what you meant. So all those guys listed are career 40% 3pt shooters?  Or did they do it just once, or…

Do you not have access to the internet?

The point is that it is, in fact, not remotely a "near impossible ask".

Just thought you might know off hand. So what do you think the chances are that Justin Champagnie becomes a 40% 3pt shooter? In terms of a percentage. 

[hwangjini_1]

I don’t see the appeal. They should have just signed Luka Samanic. He can actually shoot. Or Tony Snell if they preferred a wing. He at least has an NBA resume.

well, that chance has come and gone. i wish him luck with his new team.

https://www.deseret.com/2023/4/6/23673787/luka-samanic-agrees-to-multi-year-deal-with-the-utah-jazz

[radiohead]

I don’t see the appeal. They should have just signed Luka Samanic. He can actually shoot. Or Tony Snell if they preferred a wing. He at least has an NBA resume.

well, that chance has come and gone. i wish him luck with his new team.

https://www.deseret.com/2023/4/6/23673787/luka-samanic-agrees-to-multi-year-deal-with-the-utah-jazz

I hope this doesn’t bite us in the end. I really wanted Luka to be that 15th man. We had him right in our own yard. Then again, I’m sure Brad has his reasons. I was a huge Jabari fan and we all know how that turned out.

[Sophomore]

I can see why Stevens signed Champagnie; he has potential. From the few highlights that I've seen, he's shown the same strengths that this scouting report highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTzlRXGXrx0&ab_channel=AdamSpinella

In addition to that, he has good handles and driving ability for a former college big, and plays at a controlled pace; and the most important for Stevens, he's a versatile defender (has the athleticism, agility, strength, and length to effectively guard 2-4).

I don't expect a player filling the 15th roster spot to receive minutes outside of blowouts and practice this season; but if he does and plays well, we'll have advanced clarity on the the Grant-Celtics extension.

Fun video. Liked a lot about his game; at one point tho, it said "best in a role where he can stay close to the basket". That was not encouraging for a 6'6" player. Which, I suppose, is why he's fighting for a spot at the end of the bench. But who knows. Good luck, Justin C. Have a productive summer!

I think Champagnie is taller than Grant.

Grant doesn’t have to play close to the basket on offense, and he’s freakishly strong - strong enough that Embiid and Giannis can’t root him easily. If Justin C can turn himself into a 40% 3-point shooter and is a versatile defender, he has a bright future in this league. If he can’t shoot and depends on putbacks and back cuts, the road is a lot harder.

Asking someone who shot 28% from 3pt in college to become a 40% shooter from deep is a near impossible ask. There is a reason he only averaged 0.8 shots per game from 3pt last year.

Also, he’s 6’6”/206lbs. That’s not someone that is going to be guarding PF’s in the NBA.

Ironically, you've just described Grant Williams

Grant does have about 30 pounds on him.

Yep. Also, people really undersell the importance of his strength, and what an asset that is. When P3 tested his leg strength before the combine, he tested in the 96th percentile of all NBA players. Not all rookies - all players, including fully developed players who had years in NBA strength programs. At age 20. What it means is that no one goes through Williams on defense, even bigger centers. That he can also stay in front of most guards is even better. Sure, I wish he was 6'9", but if he keeps his shooting confidence and understands his role - and ideally, loses the habit of reacting to every foul call like a WWE baddie -  he's a solid role player on a contending team.

https://theathletic.com/996385/2019/06/14/grant-williams-and-the-challenge-of-scouting-a-player-whose-role-will-be-different-in-the-nba/

[radiohead]

I don’t see the appeal. They should have just signed Luka Samanic. He can actually shoot. Or Tony Snell if they preferred a wing. He at least has an NBA resume.

well, that chance has come and gone. i wish him luck with his new team.

https://www.deseret.com/2023/4/6/23673787/luka-samanic-agrees-to-multi-year-deal-with-the-utah-jazz

I hope this doesn’t bite us in the end. I really wanted Luka to be that 15th man. We had him right in our own yard. Then again, I’m sure Brad has his reasons. I was a huge Jabari fan and we all know how that turned out.

Luka had a pretty good 23/8 in Utah’s win vs Denver. It’s a no bearing game but still.

[Damiano Brancopreto]

I think signing a center would have been more logical...

[bello_man09]

I liked what i saw he even hit a 3...dude is not 6-6 though.

[bello_man09]

I think signing a center would have been more logical...

We got Blake, Luke, AL, - I l know Rob is Fragile but luke is the one we have to ask why he is not the roster.

[Vermont Green]

I think adding Champagnie rounds us out well.  Things are a little skewed because Gallinari is on the roster, taking up a spot, but not available to play.  For the regular season, we can "call up" Davison to take Gallinari's spot but we can't do that in the playoffs.  We will only have 14 players for the playoffs.  I don't think there was a need for another center after we got Muscala.  A versatile wing seems the best match.

Smart    White        Davison (2-way)
Brown    Brogdon    Pritchard
Tatum    Hauser      Champagie
Horford   Grant       Muscala
RWill       Griffin      Kornet

Injured:  Gallinari

This is just the roster spots by position.  The rotation will be whatever it is of course (see other thread).  White may start over Smart or RWill.  Hopefully, RWill is all healed and ready to start.  I think we need him.  We are at our best with him in the starting line up, so long as he is 100%.  Same with Smart in my mind, so long as he is 100% which I don't think he has been for while.

The good news is that if Smart is not 100%, we have White.  What a luxury.  RWill is not so easy to replace if he is not full strength.  That is why we have gone small so much this season.

[footey]

JC looked decent in final game. Much better than Jackson as 15th man.

Plus could see everyone saying, when he comes in at the end of a blow out win:

Break out the Champagnie!!

[bello_man09]

JC looked decent in final game. Much better than Jackson as 15th man.

Plus could see everyone saying, when he comes in at the end of a blow out win:

Break out the Champagnie!!

LOL justin Jackson reminded me of nadar- them boys came out gunning for 15th end guys on the Roster..lol

[gouki88]

JC looked decent in final game. Much better than Jackson as 15th man.

Plus could see everyone saying, when he comes in at the end of a blow out win:

Break out the Champagnie!!

LOL justin Jackson reminded me of nadar- them boys came out gunning for 15th end guys on the Roster..lol

Abdel Nader had a mini resurgence in OKC, which made many here wish we'd kept him (he was one of my least favourite players ever). Then he went to Phoenix, played 38 games in 2 seasons, and disappeared