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Re: Celtics Sign Justin Champagnie to 15th Roster Spot
« Reply #30 on: April 06, 2023, 05:57:16 PM »

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Sure wish we could find and develop a solid back up center like Kessler.  We lack physicality inside, and pay for it against guys like Embiid and Jokic.
Embiid averaged 44.5PPG against Kessler this season, and to me Kessler doesn't have the kind of frame that will fill out to bang with those kinds of guys.
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Re: Celtics Sign Justin Champagnie to 15th Roster Spot
« Reply #31 on: April 06, 2023, 06:02:22 PM »

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Sure wish we could find and develop a solid back up center like Kessler.  We lack physicality inside, and pay for it against guys like Embiid and Jokic.

You mean 22nd overall pick, rookie center who is starting Walker Kessler? I'm not sure those guys are "developed" as backups so much as gifted and immediately sought after.

Re: Celtics Sign Justin Champagnie to 15th Roster Spot
« Reply #32 on: April 06, 2023, 11:03:39 PM »

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I can see why Stevens signed Champagnie; he has potential. From the few highlights that I've seen, he's shown the same strengths that this scouting report highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTzlRXGXrx0&ab_channel=AdamSpinella

In addition to that, he has good handles and driving ability for a former college big, and plays at a controlled pace; and the most important for Stevens, he's a versatile defender (has the athleticism, agility, strength, and length to effectively guard 2-4).

I don't expect a player filling the 15th roster spot to receive minutes outside of blowouts and practice this season; but if he does and plays well, we'll have advanced clarity on the the Grant-Celtics extension.

Fun video. Liked a lot about his game; at one point tho, it said "best in a role where he can stay close to the basket". That was not encouraging for a 6'6" player. Which, I suppose, is why he's fighting for a spot at the end of the bench. But who knows. Good luck, Justin C. Have a productive summer!

Re: Celtics Sign Justin Champagnie to 15th Roster Spot
« Reply #33 on: April 07, 2023, 08:21:33 AM »

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I can see why Stevens signed Champagnie; he has potential. From the few highlights that I've seen, he's shown the same strengths that this scouting report highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTzlRXGXrx0&ab_channel=AdamSpinella

In addition to that, he has good handles and driving ability for a former college big, and plays at a controlled pace; and the most important for Stevens, he's a versatile defender (has the athleticism, agility, strength, and length to effectively guard 2-4).

I don't expect a player filling the 15th roster spot to receive minutes outside of blowouts and practice this season; but if he does and plays well, we'll have advanced clarity on the the Grant-Celtics extension.

Fun video. Liked a lot about his game; at one point tho, it said "best in a role where he can stay close to the basket". That was not encouraging for a 6'6" player. Which, I suppose, is why he's fighting for a spot at the end of the bench. But who knows. Good luck, Justin C. Have a productive summer!

I think Champagnie is taller than Grant.

Re: Celtics Sign Justin Champagnie to 15th Roster Spot
« Reply #34 on: April 07, 2023, 08:41:32 AM »

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I can see why Stevens signed Champagnie; he has potential. From the few highlights that I've seen, he's shown the same strengths that this scouting report highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTzlRXGXrx0&ab_channel=AdamSpinella

In addition to that, he has good handles and driving ability for a former college big, and plays at a controlled pace; and the most important for Stevens, he's a versatile defender (has the athleticism, agility, strength, and length to effectively guard 2-4).

I don't expect a player filling the 15th roster spot to receive minutes outside of blowouts and practice this season; but if he does and plays well, we'll have advanced clarity on the the Grant-Celtics extension.

Fun video. Liked a lot about his game; at one point tho, it said "best in a role where he can stay close to the basket". That was not encouraging for a 6'6" player. Which, I suppose, is why he's fighting for a spot at the end of the bench. But who knows. Good luck, Justin C. Have a productive summer!

I think Champagnie is taller than Grant.

Grant doesn’t have to play close to the basket on offense, and he’s freakishly strong - strong enough that Embiid and Giannis can’t root him easily. If Justin C can turn himself into a 40% 3-point shooter and is a versatile defender, he has a bright future in this league. If he can’t shoot and depends on putbacks and back cuts, the road is a lot harder.

Re: Celtics Sign Justin Champagnie to 15th Roster Spot
« Reply #35 on: April 07, 2023, 09:41:54 AM »

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I can see why Stevens signed Champagnie; he has potential. From the few highlights that I've seen, he's shown the same strengths that this scouting report highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTzlRXGXrx0&ab_channel=AdamSpinella

In addition to that, he has good handles and driving ability for a former college big, and plays at a controlled pace; and the most important for Stevens, he's a versatile defender (has the athleticism, agility, strength, and length to effectively guard 2-4).

I don't expect a player filling the 15th roster spot to receive minutes outside of blowouts and practice this season; but if he does and plays well, we'll have advanced clarity on the the Grant-Celtics extension.

Fun video. Liked a lot about his game; at one point tho, it said "best in a role where he can stay close to the basket". That was not encouraging for a 6'6" player. Which, I suppose, is why he's fighting for a spot at the end of the bench. But who knows. Good luck, Justin C. Have a productive summer!

I think Champagnie is taller than Grant.

Grant doesn’t have to play close to the basket on offense, and he’s freakishly strong - strong enough that Embiid and Giannis can’t root him easily. If Justin C can turn himself into a 40% 3-point shooter and is a versatile defender, he has a bright future in this league. If he can’t shoot and depends on putbacks and back cuts, the road is a lot harder.

Asking someone who shot 28% from 3pt in college to become a 40% shooter from deep is a near impossible ask. There is a reason he only averaged 0.8 shots per game from 3pt last year.

Also, he’s 6’6”/206lbs. That’s not someone that is going to be guarding PF’s in the NBA.
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Re: Celtics Sign Justin Champagnie to 15th Roster Spot
« Reply #36 on: April 07, 2023, 10:42:50 AM »

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I don’t see the appeal. They should have just signed Luka Samanic. He can actually shoot. Or Tony Snell if they preferred a wing. He at least has an NBA resume.

Re: Celtics Sign Justin Champagnie to 15th Roster Spot
« Reply #37 on: April 07, 2023, 12:05:19 PM »

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They signed the wrong Champagnie brother!  :blank:

Yeh.  Julian has been going goofy for the Spurs this week!
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Re: Celtics Sign Justin Champagnie to 15th Roster Spot
« Reply #38 on: April 07, 2023, 12:36:54 PM »

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They signed the wrong Champagnie brother!  :blank:

Yeh.  Julian has been going goofy for the Spurs this week!

Julian is/was always the better prospect. Even coming out of college. Spurs are just better as an organization at identifying talent.
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Re: Celtics Sign Justin Champagnie to 15th Roster Spot
« Reply #39 on: April 07, 2023, 12:43:22 PM »

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They signed the wrong Champagnie brother!  :blank:

Yeh.  Julian has been going goofy for the Spurs this week!

Julian is/was always the better prospect. Even coming out of college. Spurs are just better as an organization at identifying talent.

I don't understand what you are basing this on.  The Spurs are a near last place team.  Whatever talent they have identified lately is not doing so well.  Meanwhile, the Celtics are one of favorites to win a title based on a team that was largely assembled by identifying and drafting talent.  Then there is Hauser, not drafted but identified.

Re: Celtics Sign Justin Champagnie to 15th Roster Spot
« Reply #40 on: April 07, 2023, 12:47:03 PM »

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I can see why Stevens signed Champagnie; he has potential. From the few highlights that I've seen, he's shown the same strengths that this scouting report highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTzlRXGXrx0&ab_channel=AdamSpinella

In addition to that, he has good handles and driving ability for a former college big, and plays at a controlled pace; and the most important for Stevens, he's a versatile defender (has the athleticism, agility, strength, and length to effectively guard 2-4).

I don't expect a player filling the 15th roster spot to receive minutes outside of blowouts and practice this season; but if he does and plays well, we'll have advanced clarity on the the Grant-Celtics extension.

Fun video. Liked a lot about his game; at one point tho, it said "best in a role where he can stay close to the basket". That was not encouraging for a 6'6" player. Which, I suppose, is why he's fighting for a spot at the end of the bench. But who knows. Good luck, Justin C. Have a productive summer!

I think Champagnie is taller than Grant.

Grant doesn’t have to play close to the basket on offense, and he’s freakishly strong - strong enough that Embiid and Giannis can’t root him easily. If Justin C can turn himself into a 40% 3-point shooter and is a versatile defender, he has a bright future in this league. If he can’t shoot and depends on putbacks and back cuts, the road is a lot harder.

Asking someone who shot 28% from 3pt in college to become a 40% shooter from deep is a near impossible ask. There is a reason he only averaged 0.8 shots per game from 3pt last year.

Also, he’s 6’6”/206lbs. That’s not someone that is going to be guarding PF’s in the NBA.

Yeah, I’m not saying he’s *going* to become a 3-point shooter. I am saying if he can’t it’s a lot harder to see how he earns a place in the NBA. If I was his agent I’d tell him to give it his best. How many non-shooting 6’6” guards last in the league?

Re: Celtics Sign Justin Champagnie to 15th Roster Spot
« Reply #41 on: April 07, 2023, 01:03:55 PM »

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They signed the wrong Champagnie brother!  :blank:

Yeh.  Julian has been going goofy for the Spurs this week!

You don’t t
Julian is/was always the better prospect. Even coming out of college. Spurs are just better as an organization at identifying talent.

I don't understand what you are basing this on.  The Spurs are a near last place team.  Whatever talent they have identified lately is not doing so well.  Meanwhile, the Celtics are one of favorites to win a title based on a team that was largely assembled by identifying and drafting talent.  Then there is Hauser, not drafted but identified.

Im talking about their history of identifying talent later in the first round/second. Or bringing in undrafted players. For example:

Devin Vasell #11
Tre Jones #41
Keldon Johnson #29
Lonnie Walker #18
Derrick White #29
Dejounte Murray #29
Kyle Anderson #30
Cory Joseph #29
Dajuan Blair #37
George Hill# 26
Tiago Splitter #29
Ian Mahinimi #28
Beno Udrih #28
Luis Scola #57
Tony Parker #28
Many Ginobli #57
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Re: Celtics Sign Justin Champagnie to 15th Roster Spot
« Reply #42 on: April 07, 2023, 05:27:01 PM »

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I can see why Stevens signed Champagnie; he has potential. From the few highlights that I've seen, he's shown the same strengths that this scouting report highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTzlRXGXrx0&ab_channel=AdamSpinella

In addition to that, he has good handles and driving ability for a former college big, and plays at a controlled pace; and the most important for Stevens, he's a versatile defender (has the athleticism, agility, strength, and length to effectively guard 2-4).

I don't expect a player filling the 15th roster spot to receive minutes outside of blowouts and practice this season; but if he does and plays well, we'll have advanced clarity on the the Grant-Celtics extension.

Fun video. Liked a lot about his game; at one point tho, it said "best in a role where he can stay close to the basket". That was not encouraging for a 6'6" player. Which, I suppose, is why he's fighting for a spot at the end of the bench. But who knows. Good luck, Justin C. Have a productive summer!

I think Champagnie is taller than Grant.

Grant doesn’t have to play close to the basket on offense, and he’s freakishly strong - strong enough that Embiid and Giannis can’t root him easily. If Justin C can turn himself into a 40% 3-point shooter and is a versatile defender, he has a bright future in this league. If he can’t shoot and depends on putbacks and back cuts, the road is a lot harder.

Asking someone who shot 28% from 3pt in college to become a 40% shooter from deep is a near impossible ask. There is a reason he only averaged 0.8 shots per game from 3pt last year.

Also, he’s 6’6”/206lbs. That’s not someone that is going to be guarding PF’s in the NBA.
Ironically, you've just described Grant Williams
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PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Celtics Sign Justin Champagnie to 15th Roster Spot
« Reply #43 on: April 07, 2023, 05:37:34 PM »

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I can see why Stevens signed Champagnie; he has potential. From the few highlights that I've seen, he's shown the same strengths that this scouting report highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTzlRXGXrx0&ab_channel=AdamSpinella

In addition to that, he has good handles and driving ability for a former college big, and plays at a controlled pace; and the most important for Stevens, he's a versatile defender (has the athleticism, agility, strength, and length to effectively guard 2-4).

I don't expect a player filling the 15th roster spot to receive minutes outside of blowouts and practice this season; but if he does and plays well, we'll have advanced clarity on the the Grant-Celtics extension.

Fun video. Liked a lot about his game; at one point tho, it said "best in a role where he can stay close to the basket". That was not encouraging for a 6'6" player. Which, I suppose, is why he's fighting for a spot at the end of the bench. But who knows. Good luck, Justin C. Have a productive summer!

I think Champagnie is taller than Grant.

Grant doesn’t have to play close to the basket on offense, and he’s freakishly strong - strong enough that Embiid and Giannis can’t root him easily. If Justin C can turn himself into a 40% 3-point shooter and is a versatile defender, he has a bright future in this league. If he can’t shoot and depends on putbacks and back cuts, the road is a lot harder.

Asking someone who shot 28% from 3pt in college to become a 40% shooter from deep is a near impossible ask. There is a reason he only averaged 0.8 shots per game from 3pt last year.

Also, he’s 6’6”/206lbs. That’s not someone that is going to be guarding PF’s in the NBA.
Ironically, you've just described Grant Williams

So are you saying that since Grant did it, anyone can?
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Re: Celtics Sign Justin Champagnie to 15th Roster Spot
« Reply #44 on: April 07, 2023, 05:39:33 PM »

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I can see why Stevens signed Champagnie; he has potential. From the few highlights that I've seen, he's shown the same strengths that this scouting report highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTzlRXGXrx0&ab_channel=AdamSpinella

In addition to that, he has good handles and driving ability for a former college big, and plays at a controlled pace; and the most important for Stevens, he's a versatile defender (has the athleticism, agility, strength, and length to effectively guard 2-4).

I don't expect a player filling the 15th roster spot to receive minutes outside of blowouts and practice this season; but if he does and plays well, we'll have advanced clarity on the the Grant-Celtics extension.

Fun video. Liked a lot about his game; at one point tho, it said "best in a role where he can stay close to the basket". That was not encouraging for a 6'6" player. Which, I suppose, is why he's fighting for a spot at the end of the bench. But who knows. Good luck, Justin C. Have a productive summer!

I think Champagnie is taller than Grant.

Grant doesn’t have to play close to the basket on offense, and he’s freakishly strong - strong enough that Embiid and Giannis can’t root him easily. If Justin C can turn himself into a 40% 3-point shooter and is a versatile defender, he has a bright future in this league. If he can’t shoot and depends on putbacks and back cuts, the road is a lot harder.

Asking someone who shot 28% from 3pt in college to become a 40% shooter from deep is a near impossible ask. There is a reason he only averaged 0.8 shots per game from 3pt last year.

Also, he’s 6’6”/206lbs. That’s not someone that is going to be guarding PF’s in the NBA.
Ironically, you've just described Grant Williams

Grant does have about 30 pounds on him.