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Re: Miles Bridges UFA in March - stay away or interested?
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2023, 02:59:36 PM »

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Hell, no.  He's a POS.

Also, after the whole Ibaka thing, there's no way in hell the organization would bring this kid in.

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Re: Miles Bridges UFA in March - stay away or interested?
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2023, 05:57:26 PM »

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I was just wondering, what is the perception of his situation among forum users.

Bridges will likely sit out the year.  The only team it would make sense for him to sign with is Charlotte, because they have his Bird rights.  It might make sense for Charlotte to do it now, since they're a bottom feeder and he could serve much of his suspension now.  There have been several reports that they eventually want him back.

For me personally, I'd like to see him never play in the NBA again.  I don't feel that way about every instance of domestic violence.  Rehabilitation and genuine remorse for a momentary event can happen.  But, in Bridges case he beat his girlfriend / the mother of his children severely.  She suffered a concussion, a broken nose, bruised ribs and a strained neck from strangulation.  She had bruises all over her body. 

Beyond my own personal misgivings, I don't think Brad would sign him, even for a minimum contract.  Players joining the Celtics have repeatedly talked about how our locker room chemistry is the best they've seen.  There's no need to ruin that.

Curious what your take on our coach is? He too, went way too far in multiple occasions years ago. It seems he turned his life around.

https://www.si.com/nba/celtics/.amp/top-stories/celtics-believe-in-joe-mazzulla-and-how-his-domestic-battery-arrest-has-since-shaped-him

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« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2023, 07:02:23 PM »

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I was just wondering, what is the perception of his situation among forum users.

Bridges will likely sit out the year.  The only team it would make sense for him to sign with is Charlotte, because they have his Bird rights.  It might make sense for Charlotte to do it now, since they're a bottom feeder and he could serve much of his suspension now.  There have been several reports that they eventually want him back.

For me personally, I'd like to see him never play in the NBA again.  I don't feel that way about every instance of domestic violence.  Rehabilitation and genuine remorse for a momentary event can happen.  But, in Bridges case he beat his girlfriend / the mother of his children severely.  She suffered a concussion, a broken nose, bruised ribs and a strained neck from strangulation.  She had bruises all over her body. 

Beyond my own personal misgivings, I don't think Brad would sign him, even for a minimum contract.  Players joining the Celtics have repeatedly talked about how our locker room chemistry is the best they've seen.  There's no need to ruin that.

Curious what your take on our coach is? He too, went way too far in multiple occasions years ago. It seems he turned his life around.

https://www.si.com/nba/celtics/.amp/top-stories/celtics-believe-in-joe-mazzulla-and-how-his-domestic-battery-arrest-has-since-shaped-him

Did he beat the living hell out of the mother of his children?

I don’t know the details of the DV allegations against Mazz.  Were their medical records? Extreme injuries?  Did it happen in front of children?  Was he convicted?

I do know Mazz quit drinking, turned his life around, and worked himself up from the bottom rung.
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Re: Miles Bridges UFA in March - stay away or interested?
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2023, 09:27:30 PM »

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I was just wondering, what is the perception of his situation among forum users.

Bridges will likely sit out the year.  The only team it would make sense for him to sign with is Charlotte, because they have his Bird rights.  It might make sense for Charlotte to do it now, since they're a bottom feeder and he could serve much of his suspension now.  There have been several reports that they eventually want him back.

For me personally, I'd like to see him never play in the NBA again.  I don't feel that way about every instance of domestic violence.  Rehabilitation and genuine remorse for a momentary event can happen.  But, in Bridges case he beat his girlfriend / the mother of his children severely.  She suffered a concussion, a broken nose, bruised ribs and a strained neck from strangulation.  She had bruises all over her body. 

Beyond my own personal misgivings, I don't think Brad would sign him, even for a minimum contract.  Players joining the Celtics have repeatedly talked about how our locker room chemistry is the best they've seen.  There's no need to ruin that.

Curious what your take on our coach is? He too, went way too far in multiple occasions years ago. It seems he turned his life around.

https://www.si.com/nba/celtics/.amp/top-stories/celtics-believe-in-joe-mazzulla-and-how-his-domestic-battery-arrest-has-since-shaped-him

Did he beat the living hell out of the mother of his children?

I don’t know the details of the DV allegations against Mazz.  Were their medical records? Extreme injuries?  Did it happen in front of children?  Was he convicted?

I do know Mazz quit drinking, turned his life around, and worked himself up from the bottom rung.

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The alleged incident occurred on April 18 and the criminal complaint was filed on April 19. Mazzulla was arraigned last Friday and released on a $5,000 personal recognizance bond.

It was the second arrest for Mazzulla within a year. Last summer, while attending a Pittsburgh Pirates game, he and teammate Cam Thoroughman became involved with security personnel. He pleaded guilty to charges of public intoxication and disorderly conduct.
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Re: Miles Bridges UFA in March - stay away or interested?
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2023, 09:33:29 PM »

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   If a team chose to pick up Bridges I’d be surprised they wanted the press they have to deal with. It’s just not worth it , to me.  I think in order for if to work he has to be in a serious title contending team.
  There will always be corporations, businesses willing to take on people who did sone heinous things to get a buck .
  It’s a fans choice whether or not they want to still support that the organization. But most people will support and cheer if he’s scoring for their team. Even if they think he may do it again.
  I mean look at Hollywood . People still go and support movies when people have sone heinous things. People still go to church on Sundays. It’s up to the people individual . I certainly wouldn’t think a person is a BAD person for still supporting the team.
  But I certainly rather they didn’t.
 

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« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2023, 11:22:30 PM »

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For what it’s worth, Bridges remains a restricted free agent and Charlotte holds his Bird rights.  No other team is going to sign him right now, because they get a bad PR hit AND Charlotte would match.  In the summer this is likely also true, but certainly now.  Expect him to sign a deal for a good bit of money overall but not much in guarantee so they can move on if he has any more trouble.

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« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2023, 01:54:10 AM »

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He is set to become an unrestricted free agent in March. The league will likely impose a suspension. Somewhat similar offense resulted in 25 game suspension few years back (Jeffrey Taylor?). If he was signed immediately and received a similar punishment, he could be back during the playoffs. Definitely the best player among the free agents. He did commit a heinous act, though. Should the team stay away or do you believe that once an individual receives a punishment, he or she is rehabilitated and it is fair to bring him in. Or is he too much of a risk for our locker room? Or will he sign with the Hornets anyway??

My opinion hasn't changed from when the news first broke. I don't think he's the right fit. I get it that everyone deserves a second chance after they've undergone their punishment. He can get that elsewhere, from a team that is more desperate than us. I think it would be a big risk that we don't need to take. I'm sure other teams will though, their need (and desperation) might be greater.
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« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2023, 03:29:36 AM »

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For what it’s worth, Bridges remains a restricted free agent and Charlotte holds his Bird rights.  No other team is going to sign him right now, because they get a bad PR hit AND Charlotte would match.  In the summer this is likely also true, but certainly now.  Expect him to sign a deal for a good bit of money overall but not much in guarantee so they can move on if he has any more trouble.

Maybe I’m wrong, but I’ve read that he’s restricted free agency ends in March, thus the topic. But I get the sentiment that he isn’t welcome here at the moment. I don’t live in the US, so I probably didn’t read as many details as others. I also never said that I’m for bringing him in. I just thought it is an interesting question that nobody asked.

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« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2023, 03:52:56 AM »

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For what it’s worth, Bridges remains a restricted free agent and Charlotte holds his Bird rights.  No other team is going to sign him right now, because they get a bad PR hit AND Charlotte would match.  In the summer this is likely also true, but certainly now.  Expect him to sign a deal for a good bit of money overall but not much in guarantee so they can move on if he has any more trouble.

Maybe I’m wrong, but I’ve read that he’s restricted free agency ends in March, thus the topic. But I get the sentiment that he isn’t welcome here at the moment. I don’t live in the US, so I probably didn’t read as many details as others. I also never said that I’m for bringing him in. I just thought it is an interesting question that nobody asked.

https://nypost.com/2022/07/01/hornets-miles-bridges-wife-mychelle-johnson-shares-photos-of-alleged-domestic-violence-attack/
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« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2023, 06:29:51 AM »

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For what it’s worth, Bridges remains a restricted free agent and Charlotte holds his Bird rights.  No other team is going to sign him right now, because they get a bad PR hit AND Charlotte would match.  In the summer this is likely also true, but certainly now.  Expect him to sign a deal for a good bit of money overall but not much in guarantee so they can move on if he has any more trouble.

Maybe I’m wrong, but I’ve read that he’s restricted free agency ends in March, thus the topic. But I get the sentiment that he isn’t welcome here at the moment. I don’t live in the US, so I probably didn’t read as many details as others. I also never said that I’m for bringing him in. I just thought it is an interesting question that nobody asked.

Once March 1st passes, his only option this year is to sign with Charlotte or not play in the NBA this year, in which case he’s a restricted free agent again next year.  Between now and March 1st he can sign with another team, but Charlotte can match.  In other words, he’s no longer a free agent after March 1st, not that his restricted status has ended.

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« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2023, 06:38:05 AM »

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For what it’s worth, Bridges remains a restricted free agent and Charlotte holds his Bird rights.  No other team is going to sign him right now, because they get a bad PR hit AND Charlotte would match.  In the summer this is likely also true, but certainly now.  Expect him to sign a deal for a good bit of money overall but not much in guarantee so they can move on if he has any more trouble.

Maybe I’m wrong, but I’ve read that he’s restricted free agency ends in March, thus the topic. But I get the sentiment that he isn’t welcome here at the moment. I don’t live in the US, so I probably didn’t read as many details as others. I also never said that I’m for bringing him in. I just thought it is an interesting question that nobody asked.

Once March 1st passes, his only option this year is to sign with Charlotte or not play in the NBA this year, in which case he’s a restricted free agent again next year.  Between now and March 1st he can sign with another team, but Charlotte can match.  In other words, he’s no longer a free agent after March 1st, not that his restricted status has ended.

https://www.si.com/nba/hornets/.amp/news/miles-bridges-contract

This article states the following:

‘If an agreement can't be reached by the two camps, then Bridges could let the qualifying offer expire on March 1st and become an unrestricted free agent. At that point he could sign with anyone, likely on a vet minimum due to limited CAP space within the league. But that won't happen. Can you imagine, Bridges signing for a vet minimum with the Celtics and helping them win the championship? There's no way I see Adam Silver and the NBA letting that happen, so I expect any suspension to be long enough it would rule this possibility out.’

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« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2023, 06:56:44 AM »

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For what it’s worth, Bridges remains a restricted free agent and Charlotte holds his Bird rights.  No other team is going to sign him right now, because they get a bad PR hit AND Charlotte would match.  In the summer this is likely also true, but certainly now.  Expect him to sign a deal for a good bit of money overall but not much in guarantee so they can move on if he has any more trouble.

Maybe I’m wrong, but I’ve read that he’s restricted free agency ends in March, thus the topic. But I get the sentiment that he isn’t welcome here at the moment. I don’t live in the US, so I probably didn’t read as many details as others. I also never said that I’m for bringing him in. I just thought it is an interesting question that nobody asked.

Once March 1st passes, his only option this year is to sign with Charlotte or not play in the NBA this year, in which case he’s a restricted free agent again next year.  Between now and March 1st he can sign with another team, but Charlotte can match.  In other words, he’s no longer a free agent after March 1st, not that his restricted status has ended.

https://www.si.com/nba/hornets/.amp/news/miles-bridges-contract

This article states the following:

‘If an agreement can't be reached by the two camps, then Bridges could let the qualifying offer expire on March 1st and become an unrestricted free agent. At that point he could sign with anyone, likely on a vet minimum due to limited CAP space within the league. But that won't happen. Can you imagine, Bridges signing for a vet minimum with the Celtics and helping them win the championship? There's no way I see Adam Silver and the NBA letting that happen, so I expect any suspension to be long enough it would rule this possibility out.’

That author is just incorrect, which speaks to the further degradation of Sports Illustrated as a quality source.  From Larry Coon:

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An offer sheet can be signed during the July Moratorium (see question number 105), however the two-day matching period does not commence until the end of the Moratorium. An offer sheet cannot be signed after March 1. If the player does not sign an offer sheet by that date, his only choice is to re-sign with his previous team (or remain unsigned for the rest of the season). This happened with Wilson Chandler, who signed in China during the 2011 lockout and did not return to the NBA until after March 1, 2012. Chandler ended up re-signing with the Nuggets to a five-year contract shortly after returning to the United States.

Other things that are wrong in the article:

1) It says the Hornets and Bridges could let the qualifying offer expire.  That has already happened (it did in October 1st when the sides chose not to extend it, but Bridges is still restricted).

2) It suggests that the Hornets might want a three-year offer because that would give them full Bird rights on Bridges.  While that is technically true (it would), because they already have full Bird rights in on Bridges, a deal of any length would maintain those Burd rights — the clock don’t reset when you re-sign with the team that has your Bird rights.

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« Reply #27 on: February 17, 2023, 07:22:12 AM »

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For what it’s worth, Bridges remains a restricted free agent and Charlotte holds his Bird rights.  No other team is going to sign him right now, because they get a bad PR hit AND Charlotte would match.  In the summer this is likely also true, but certainly now.  Expect him to sign a deal for a good bit of money overall but not much in guarantee so they can move on if he has any more trouble.

Maybe I’m wrong, but I’ve read that he’s restricted free agency ends in March, thus the topic. But I get the sentiment that he isn’t welcome here at the moment. I don’t live in the US, so I probably didn’t read as many details as others. I also never said that I’m for bringing him in. I just thought it is an interesting question that nobody asked.

Once March 1st passes, his only option this year is to sign with Charlotte or not play in the NBA this year, in which case he’s a restricted free agent again next year.  Between now and March 1st he can sign with another team, but Charlotte can match.  In other words, he’s no longer a free agent after March 1st, not that his restricted status has ended.

https://www.si.com/nba/hornets/.amp/news/miles-bridges-contract

This article states the following:

‘If an agreement can't be reached by the two camps, then Bridges could let the qualifying offer expire on March 1st and become an unrestricted free agent. At that point he could sign with anyone, likely on a vet minimum due to limited CAP space within the league. But that won't happen. Can you imagine, Bridges signing for a vet minimum with the Celtics and helping them win the championship? There's no way I see Adam Silver and the NBA letting that happen, so I expect any suspension to be long enough it would rule this possibility out.’

That author is just incorrect, which speaks to the further degradation of Sports Illustrated as a quality source.  From Larry Coon:

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An offer sheet can be signed during the July Moratorium (see question number 105), however the two-day matching period does not commence until the end of the Moratorium. An offer sheet cannot be signed after March 1. If the player does not sign an offer sheet by that date, his only choice is to re-sign with his previous team (or remain unsigned for the rest of the season). This happened with Wilson Chandler, who signed in China during the 2011 lockout and did not return to the NBA until after March 1, 2012. Chandler ended up re-signing with the Nuggets to a five-year contract shortly after returning to the United States.

Other things that are wrong in the article:

1) It says the Hornets and Bridges could let the qualifying offer expire.  That has already happened (it did in October 1st when the sides chose not to extend it, but Bridges is still restricted).

2) It suggests that the Hornets might want a three-year offer because that would give them full Bird rights on Bridges.  While that is technically true (it would), because they already have full Bird rights in on Bridges, a deal of any length would maintain those Burd rights — the clock don’t reset when you re-sign with the team that has your Bird rights.

Thanks for the clarification. Most RFAs end up signing new multi-year contracts or occasionally sign a one-year offer sheet. I didn’t remember any other instance of the processes getting dragged late into a season, I forgot about Wilson Chandler situation. I apologize for starting an entire topic based on an untrue information.

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« Reply #28 on: February 17, 2023, 07:27:11 AM »

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« Reply #29 on: February 17, 2023, 07:40:10 AM »

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I was just wondering, what is the perception of his situation among forum users.

Bridges will likely sit out the year.  The only team it would make sense for him to sign with is Charlotte, because they have his Bird rights.  It might make sense for Charlotte to do it now, since they're a bottom feeder and he could serve much of his suspension now.  There have been several reports that they eventually want him back.

For me personally, I'd like to see him never play in the NBA again.  I don't feel that way about every instance of domestic violence.  Rehabilitation and genuine remorse for a momentary event can happen.  But, in Bridges case he beat his girlfriend / the mother of his children severely.  She suffered a concussion, a broken nose, bruised ribs and a strained neck from strangulation.  She had bruises all over her body. 

Beyond my own personal misgivings, I don't think Brad would sign him, even for a minimum contract.  Players joining the Celtics have repeatedly talked about how our locker room chemistry is the best they've seen.  There's no need to ruin that.

Curious what your take on our coach is? He too, went way too far in multiple occasions years ago. It seems he turned his life around.

https://www.si.com/nba/celtics/.amp/top-stories/celtics-believe-in-joe-mazzulla-and-how-his-domestic-battery-arrest-has-since-shaped-him

Did he beat the living hell out of the mother of his children?

I don’t know the details of the DV allegations against Mazz.  Were their medical records? Extreme injuries?  Did it happen in front of children?  Was he convicted?

I do know Mazz quit drinking, turned his life around, and worked himself up from the bottom rung.

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Mazzulla, from Johnston, R.I., was arrested and charged with domestic battery after an incident at de Lazy Lizard nightclub in Morgantown. Mazzulla allegedly grabbed a woman by the neck at the bar.

The alleged incident occurred on April 18 and the criminal complaint was filed on April 19. Mazzulla was arraigned last Friday and released on a $5,000 personal recognizance bond.

It was the second arrest for Mazzulla within a year. Last summer, while attending a Pittsburgh Pirates game, he and teammate Cam Thoroughman became involved with security personnel. He pleaded guilty to charges of public intoxication and disorderly conduct.

Yeah, that's about all I know.  We can assume it was a current or former dating partner, although it could have been another family member.  He was let out on PR bond, so the crime wasn't deemed horrific by the judge / bondsman.  We know he "grabbed" the neck, but there's no allegation of strangulation.  And, presumably no conviction.  There's a giant lack of information.


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