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True or False: We Play Better as a Team Without JB

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Re: True or False: We Play Better as a Team Without JB
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2023, 04:46:13 PM »

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Let’s do Timelord next.

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Winning games without a guy doesn’t mean we’re better without him.


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Re: True or False: We Play Better as a Team Without JB
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2023, 04:46:17 PM »

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True or false: Some fans don't appreciate how great the Celtics have been this year.

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Re: True or False: We Play Better as a Team Without JB
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2023, 04:47:02 PM »

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Let’s do Timelord next.

Then Smart.

Winning games without a guy doesn’t mean we’re better without him.

How many games have we won since Bird retired?

Re: True or False: We Play Better as a Team Without JB
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2023, 04:47:47 PM »

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Let’s do Timelord next.

Then Smart.

Winning games without a guy doesn’t mean we’re better without him.

We’re not better without JB. Nobody is saying that. He’s a talented guy who brings value to the team. But the team seems to play better without JB. It’s maddening. It makes me wonder why. And if we could exchange the value JB brings for another teammate that makes us play better than we play with (or without) JB, well, why would we not do that?

Re: True or False: We Play Better as a Team Without JB
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2023, 04:49:02 PM »

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Re: True or False: We Play Better as a Team Without JB
« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2023, 04:50:00 PM »

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Let’s do Timelord next.

Then Smart.

Winning games without a guy doesn’t mean we’re better without him.

We’re not better without JB. He’s a talented guy who brings value to the team. But the team seems to play better without JB. It’s maddening. It makes me wonder why.

Didn't we get to the finals with JB last year? Did you watch that? Wasn't JB our best player in the finals?
I think you're missing something...

Re: True or False: We Play Better as a Team Without JB
« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2023, 04:51:04 PM »

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It is JT’s and JB’s iso 3s that is holding our offense back. If they can reduce those inefficient plays then the sky is the limit with this team offensively.

Re: True or False: We Play Better as a Team Without JB
« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2023, 04:52:44 PM »

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It is JT’s and JB’s iso 3s that is holding our offense back. If they can reduce those inefficient plays then the sky is the limit with this team offensively.

Aren't we the first place team? Holding us back from what?

Re: True or False: We Play Better as a Team Without JB
« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2023, 04:53:08 PM »

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Let’s do Timelord next.

Then Smart.

Winning games without a guy doesn’t mean we’re better without him.
There's also a difference between regular season games and playoff games. The C's roster is set up to get them through the regular season, but come playoffs talent matters, and Jaylen is talent. I think some are forgetting how guys like Pritchard and Grant were nowhere to be found vs Golden State - when they were needed.

Re: True or False: We Play Better as a Team Without JB
« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2023, 04:53:57 PM »

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It is JT’s and JB’s iso 3s that is holding our offense back. If they can reduce those inefficient plays then the sky is the limit with this team offensively.

TP. And it seems we don’t see those iso 3s so much when JB is out but JT is in. It’s almost like they get into this mindless competition between the two, to the detriment of our team play.

Re: True or False: We Play Better as a Team Without JB
« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2023, 04:55:09 PM »

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It is JT’s and JB’s iso 3s that is holding our offense back. If they can reduce those inefficient plays then the sky is the limit with this team offensively.

Aren't we the first place team? Holding us back from what?
From winning against those lesser teams, of course.

Re: True or False: We Play Better as a Team Without JB
« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2023, 04:55:50 PM »

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It is JT’s and JB’s iso 3s that is holding our offense back. If they can reduce those inefficient plays then the sky is the limit with this team offensively.

TP. And it seems we don’t see those iso 3s so much when JB is out but JT is in. It’s almost like they get into this mindless competition between the two, to the detriment of our team play.

Actually we DID see it today multiple times from JT.  He needs to get better at that, and so does Jaylen.  It was discussed multiple times in the gamethread by at least myself and Atzar.  That in no way makes us better as a team without JB.  You are just contorting things to try and prove a point that is just false.

Re: True or False: We Play Better as a Team Without JB
« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2023, 05:00:55 PM »

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Now 8-1 without Brown this year and Memphis is obviously an excellent team.  Entering today Brown's on/off differential per 100 possessions was -3.5, which will only get worse after today's game.

Year after year it is the same thing.  The team just doesn't miss Brown when he doesn't play.
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Re: True or False: We Play Better as a Team Without JB
« Reply #28 on: February 12, 2023, 05:01:14 PM »

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It is JT’s and JB’s iso 3s that is holding our offense back. If they can reduce those inefficient plays then the sky is the limit with this team offensively.

Aren't we the first place team? Holding us back from what?
From winning against those lesser teams, of course.

LOL. We just beat The Grizz and 76ers...

Re: True or False: We Play Better as a Team Without JB
« Reply #29 on: February 12, 2023, 05:03:38 PM »

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Now 8-1 without Brown this year and Memphis is obviously an excellent team.  Entering today Brown's on/off differential per 100 possessions was -3.5, which will only get worse after today's game.

Year after year it is the same thing.  The team just doesn't miss Brown when he doesn't play.

TP for giving data on our win record without Brown. That extrapolates to a record of 73-9. 9 games is over 10% of the regular season, too, so we’re starting to veer from too small of a sample size to a small sample size. Frankly, I hope JB skips the mask and is out another month, so we can see what happens with that 8-1 record.