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Re: #JKJB
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2023, 09:42:17 AM »

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Durant said that he was never interested in Boston, even after that goofy meeting with Kelly Olynyk and Tom Brady on Long Island.

I’m also not sure why people are adding fuel to the idea that JB doesn’t want to be here. What evidence do we have of this?

People who want to trade him for other reasons grab onto this to strengthen their case.

Sure it’s possible. And it’s also very possible Durant is injured again or demands a trade. It’s also very likely Durant’s decline continues, possibly pretty fast. He’s still really good, but a few years ago he was the best big-game player on the planet, no questions asked. That guy is already gone - as anybody who watched the first round last year can remember. This year he’s still an all-star - when healthy. Next year? Who knows.

Re: #JKJB
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2023, 10:26:36 AM »

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My thoughts:  the Celtics finish first in the East, JB makes All-NBA and signs a supermax extension, and trade “rumors” finally quiet for a year or two.

Now, if on draft night the Nets want to accept Brogdon + White + three or four #1s, I'd think about it.


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« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2023, 10:29:06 AM »

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My thoughts:  the Celtics finish first in the East, JB makes All-NBA and signs a supermax extension, and trade “rumors” finally quiet for a year or two.

Works for me.


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Re: #JKJB
« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2023, 10:43:14 AM »

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They're not trading Jaylen before the deadline.

It's all media fabrication and fanboy wishful thinking stuff.

Stephen A gonna Stephen A.


I am sure he has sources that said this.  On the Nets who want a return at a Jaylen Brown level.   

Re: #JKJB
« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2023, 11:40:35 AM »

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They're not trading Jaylen before the deadline.

It's all media fabrication and fanboy wishful thinking stuff.

Stephen A gonna Stephen A.


I am sure he has sources that said this.  On the Nets who want a return at a Jaylen Brown level.

Yep.


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« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2023, 12:16:40 PM »

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In appreciation of Jaylen, he's really been lights out from mid-range this year.

bball-ref has him at .554 from 10-16 ft, up from .474 last year and previous career high of .488.

NBA.com has him at 51.6% from mid range (6th in the league), 57.0% from 10-14 ft (3rd in the league), 55.0% from 8-16 ft (4th in the league).  (To get leaders, I filtered for a minimum of 20 makes).

Every time Jaylen drives and pulls up from ~15 feet, I'm expecting it to go in.  That's the highest praise I can bestow on a shooter.

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Re: #JKJB
« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2023, 10:28:29 PM »

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this is looking more and more like a missed opportunity for the c’s.

jb is an elite athlete, even by nba standards, but has significant flaws that aren’t improving (ball handling, shot selection, turnovers, footwork, transition defense, bbiq).

in hindsight, pbs should have risked it and pulled the trigger.

Re: #JKJB
« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2023, 10:31:14 PM »

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this is looking more and more like a missed opportunity for the c’s.

jb is an elite athlete, even by nba standards, but has significant flaws that aren’t improving (ball handling, shot selection, turnovers, footwork, transition defense, bbiq).

in hindsight, pbs should have risked it and pulled the trigger.

for 90% of the game tonight, we saw improvement in a lot of those areas.  9 assists, moving the ball well, pick and choosing his spots to attack the rim.  You can't just ignore most of the game and then come out and say we should trade JB because of this 'lack of improvement'.   JB wasn't the problem tonight.  Team rebounding was the main reason we lost.  We gave them WAY to many 2nd, 3rd, 4th opportunities. 

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« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2023, 10:45:55 PM »

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this is looking more and more like a missed opportunity for the c’s.

jb is an elite athlete, even by nba standards, but has significant flaws that aren’t improving (ball handling, shot selection, turnovers, footwork, transition defense, bbiq).

in hindsight, pbs should have risked it and pulled the trigger.

for 90% of the game tonight, we saw improvement in a lot of those areas.  9 assists, moving the ball well, pick and choosing his spots to attack the rim.  You can't just ignore most of the game and then come out and say we should trade JB because of this 'lack of improvement'.   JB wasn't the problem tonight.  Team rebounding was the main reason we lost.  We gave them WAY to many 2nd, 3rd, 4th opportunities.

jb shot us out of the game late in 4Q/OT. 46% FG, 14% 3pt, 4 TO, 3 missed FT, poor defense most of the game, stupid fouls in crunch time, and horrific shot selection and iso when the game was on the line. at one point late in the game, i think he missed six shots in a row on six c’s possessions. if you’re gonna be a $106,000,000 guy, you have to play like a closer.

stating jb played well 90% of the game is arguable but even if that was true, 90% gets you a nice shoe deal but it doesn’t win championships.

give me kd for jb at the deadline all day.

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« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2023, 10:49:58 PM »

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this is looking more and more like a missed opportunity for the c’s.

jb is an elite athlete, even by nba standards, but has significant flaws that aren’t improving (ball handling, shot selection, turnovers, footwork, transition defense, bbiq).

in hindsight, pbs should have risked it and pulled the trigger.

for 90% of the game tonight, we saw improvement in a lot of those areas.  9 assists, moving the ball well, pick and choosing his spots to attack the rim.  You can't just ignore most of the game and then come out and say we should trade JB because of this 'lack of improvement'.   JB wasn't the problem tonight.  Team rebounding was the main reason we lost.  We gave them WAY to many 2nd, 3rd, 4th opportunities.

jb shot us out of the game late in 4Q/OT. 46% FG, 14% 3pt, 4 TO, 3 missed FT, poor defense most of the game, stupid fouls in crunch time, and horrific shot selection and iso when the game was on the line. at one point late in the game, i think he missed six shots in a row on six c’s possessions. if you’re gonna be a $106,000,000 guy, you have to play like a closer.

stating jb played well 90% of the game is arguable but even if that was true, 90% gets you a nice shoe deal but it doesn’t win championships.

give me kd for jb at the deadline all day.

well JB pretty much did the bolded last night.  Game on the line, scores on a tough post up, gets fouled makes the FT to drag our lifeless body into OT.  So tonight if after a 3OT game last night and 40+ min again tonight if JB can't save our lack of rebounding all by himself, I am going to give him a pass.

JB tonight:  45 minutes 32/13/9 with 1 key block on DM
JB last night: 47 minutes 29/8/1 w/ 4 steals, one game saving steal against Randle

To me that is adequate to JKJB

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« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2023, 10:53:39 PM »

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this is looking more and more like a missed opportunity for the c’s.

jb is an elite athlete, even by nba standards, but has significant flaws that aren’t improving (ball handling, shot selection, turnovers, footwork, transition defense, bbiq).

in hindsight, pbs should have risked it and pulled the trigger.

for 90% of the game tonight, we saw improvement in a lot of those areas.  9 assists, moving the ball well, pick and choosing his spots to attack the rim.  You can't just ignore most of the game and then come out and say we should trade JB because of this 'lack of improvement'.   JB wasn't the problem tonight.  Team rebounding was the main reason we lost.  We gave them WAY to many 2nd, 3rd, 4th opportunities.

jb shot us out of the game late in 4Q/OT. 46% FG, 14% 3pt, 4 TO, 3 missed FT, poor defense most of the game, stupid fouls in crunch time, and horrific shot selection and iso when the game was on the line. at one point late in the game, i think he missed six shots in a row on six c’s possessions. if you’re gonna be a $106,000,000 guy, you have to play like a closer.

stating jb played well 90% of the game is arguable but even if that was true, 90% gets you a nice shoe deal but it doesn’t win championships.

give me kd for jb at the deadline all day.

Jaylen Brown was the only reasons this game was at all close. About the only thing he did poorly was shoot the threes, pretty much everything else was good to great.

Dude played 135 minutes in four days and was probably our best player in that stretch as yet people are STILL going to try and gaslight this blog into thinking Brown is the porblem. Please Stop Its Embarrassing.

Re: #JKJB
« Reply #26 on: March 07, 2023, 12:35:20 AM »

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this is looking more and more like a missed opportunity for the c’s.

jb is an elite athlete, even by nba standards, but has significant flaws that aren’t improving (ball handling, shot selection, turnovers, footwork, transition defense, bbiq).

in hindsight, pbs should have risked it and pulled the trigger.

for 90% of the game tonight, we saw improvement in a lot of those areas.  9 assists, moving the ball well, pick and choosing his spots to attack the rim.  You can't just ignore most of the game and then come out and say we should trade JB because of this 'lack of improvement'.   JB wasn't the problem tonight.  Team rebounding was the main reason we lost.  We gave them WAY to many 2nd, 3rd, 4th opportunities.

jb shot us out of the game late in 4Q/OT. 46% FG, 14% 3pt, 4 TO, 3 missed FT, poor defense most of the game, stupid fouls in crunch time, and horrific shot selection and iso when the game was on the line. at one point late in the game, i think he missed six shots in a row on six c’s possessions. if you’re gonna be a $106,000,000 guy, you have to play like a closer.

stating jb played well 90% of the game is arguable but even if that was true, 90% gets you a nice shoe deal but it doesn’t win championships.

give me kd for jb at the deadline all day.

Jaylen Brown was the only reasons this game was at all close. About the only thing he did poorly was shoot the threes, pretty much everything else was good to great.

Dude played 135 minutes in four days and was probably our best player in that stretch as yet people are STILL going to try and gaslight this blog into thinking Brown is the porblem. Please Stop Its Embarrassing.

that knife cuts both ways, i.e. the game was close, not a 14 point regulation victory, because jb shot us out of it down the stretch. not as much of an issue, if you’re not the $106MM man whom we kept over kd.

don’t lose sight of the point here: we’re not discussing jb in a vacuum, but whether pbs should have pulled the trigger on kd. h2h, kd scores more (and more efficiently), rebounds the same, produces more assists, and offers additional length the c’s sorely need.

we’re biased because jb wears green but any objective person takes kd every time.

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« Reply #27 on: March 07, 2023, 07:49:53 AM »

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this is looking more and more like a missed opportunity for the c’s.

jb is an elite athlete, even by nba standards, but has significant flaws that aren’t improving (ball handling, shot selection, turnovers, footwork, transition defense, bbiq).

in hindsight, pbs should have risked it and pulled the trigger.

for 90% of the game tonight, we saw improvement in a lot of those areas.  9 assists, moving the ball well, pick and choosing his spots to attack the rim.  You can't just ignore most of the game and then come out and say we should trade JB because of this 'lack of improvement'.   JB wasn't the problem tonight.  Team rebounding was the main reason we lost.  We gave them WAY to many 2nd, 3rd, 4th opportunities.

jb shot us out of the game late in 4Q/OT. 46% FG, 14% 3pt, 4 TO, 3 missed FT, poor defense most of the game, stupid fouls in crunch time, and horrific shot selection and iso when the game was on the line. at one point late in the game, i think he missed six shots in a row on six c’s possessions. if you’re gonna be a $106,000,000 guy, you have to play like a closer.

stating jb played well 90% of the game is arguable but even if that was true, 90% gets you a nice shoe deal but it doesn’t win championships.

give me kd for jb at the deadline all day.

Jaylen Brown was the only reasons this game was at all close. About the only thing he did poorly was shoot the threes, pretty much everything else was good to great.

Dude played 135 minutes in four days and was probably our best player in that stretch as yet people are STILL going to try and gaslight this blog into thinking Brown is the porblem. Please Stop Its Embarrassing.

that knife cuts both ways, i.e. the game was close, not a 14 point regulation victory, because jb shot us out of it down the stretch. not as much of an issue, if you’re not the $106MM man whom we kept over kd.

don’t lose sight of the point here: we’re not discussing jb in a vacuum, but whether pbs should have pulled the trigger on kd. h2h, kd scores more (and more efficiently), rebounds the same, produces more assists, and offers additional length the c’s sorely need.

we’re biased because jb wears green but any objective person takes kd every time.

No, we don't take KD every time.  There was a time maybe, but trading for KD at this point means you want a single title (see the LA Rams).  If you want a dynasty, you are not sending JB for KD.  It all goes back to drafting and the failure of this team to draft in the mid and late lottery.  Go through and look at the selections and see who was still there.  IMO, the worse was 2020 taking Nesmith at 14 with Cole Anthony sitting right there!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Celtics_draft_history

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Re: #JKJB
« Reply #28 on: March 07, 2023, 08:01:30 AM »

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C: Horford, Rob Williams
F: Durant, G Williams
F: Tatum, Hauser
G: Brogdon, D White
G: Smart, (D White)

With Muscala and Pritchard also available.

Man, imagine the offensive firepower of Tatum & Durant together along with Brogdon moving into the starting lineup to give the team another creator off the dribble. Wow.

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« Reply #29 on: March 07, 2023, 08:05:53 AM »

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this is looking more and more like a missed opportunity for the c’s.

jb is an elite athlete, even by nba standards, but has significant flaws that aren’t improving (ball handling, shot selection, turnovers, footwork, transition defense, bbiq).

in hindsight, pbs should have risked it and pulled the trigger.

for 90% of the game tonight, we saw improvement in a lot of those areas.  9 assists, moving the ball well, pick and choosing his spots to attack the rim.  You can't just ignore most of the game and then come out and say we should trade JB because of this 'lack of improvement'.   JB wasn't the problem tonight.  Team rebounding was the main reason we lost.  We gave them WAY to many 2nd, 3rd, 4th opportunities.

jb shot us out of the game late in 4Q/OT. 46% FG, 14% 3pt, 4 TO, 3 missed FT, poor defense most of the game, stupid fouls in crunch time, and horrific shot selection and iso when the game was on the line. at one point late in the game, i think he missed six shots in a row on six c’s possessions. if you’re gonna be a $106,000,000 guy, you have to play like a closer.

stating jb played well 90% of the game is arguable but even if that was true, 90% gets you a nice shoe deal but it doesn’t win championships.

give me kd for jb at the deadline all day.

Jaylen Brown was the only reasons this game was at all close. About the only thing he did poorly was shoot the threes, pretty much everything else was good to great.

Dude played 135 minutes in four days and was probably our best player in that stretch as yet people are STILL going to try and gaslight this blog into thinking Brown is the porblem. Please Stop Its Embarrassing.

that knife cuts both ways, i.e. the game was close, not a 14 point regulation victory, because jb shot us out of it down the stretch. not as much of an issue, if you’re not the $106MM man whom we kept over kd.

don’t lose sight of the point here: we’re not discussing jb in a vacuum, but whether pbs should have pulled the trigger on kd. h2h, kd scores more (and more efficiently), rebounds the same, produces more assists, and offers additional length the c’s sorely need.

we’re biased because jb wears green but any objective person takes kd every time.

No, we don't take KD every time.  There was a time maybe, but trading for KD at this point means you want a single title (see the LA Rams).  If you want a dynasty, you are not sending JB for KD.  It all goes back to drafting and the failure of this team to draft in the mid and late lottery.  Go through and look at the selections and see who was still there.  IMO, the worse was 2020 taking Nesmith at 14 with Cole Anthony sitting right there!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Celtics_draft_history
It doesn't even mean a single title - Kevin Durant has never won a championship without being on the same team as 3 NBA All Stars. He's very famously failed to win a championship on two separate teams when paired with 2 All Stars (or All-NBA talent, if you prefer).

KD is a very good basketball player, but he's evidently not the ticket to a championship unless you're already a championship-calibre team.
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