Celtics Dump Vonleh

[bdm860]

I thought he looked serviceable as a backup big the first few games of the season, besides averaging about 10 fouls per 36 min, ya that's not going to fly.

[liam]

I thought something was up when Griffin and not Vonleh played in garbage time the other night.

[Kuberski33]

Vonleh was a buy low signing anyway and he's reached his due date so they move on. He couldn't crack the rotation, end of story. The end roster spots are for projects so they'll move someone else in.  It's not going to be anyone with any track record in the league, that's for sure.

except Boston had and still does have plenty of available minutes for a veteran big man.  A lot of "crap" has played a lot of minutes for the Celtics this year.  A ring chasing vet could actually get solid playing time for the C's.  someone like that was always a better option than someone like Vonleh who was so bad he wasn't even in the league last year.  I mean he wasn't an undrafted rookie, dude was in the league several years and was just terrible.

I think Luke is serviceable. That said they do have some roster flexibility and Pritchard, who has some value. If you're going to move on from Grant next season and can bring in his replacement now via trade - maybe something is up?

[celticsclay]

Post-Brogdon, the whole summer was a giant waste.

I mostly agree.  I still like the Hauser signing.

Hauser was good and frankly Kornet or Griffin would have been ok if he was the 14th man (1 not both).  I wasn't a huge fan of the Gallinari signing, but he is at least a credible player and would have been fine but for the injury.  My issue at the time, since, and still now has been the crap that comprises the roster spots of Vonleh, Jackson, and Griffin/Kornet.  3 wasted roster spots, which is totally unacceptable given the trade exception and other veterans that were available for the minimum.  Those should not be on the roster for a team that claims it wants to contend and for which paying the tax apparently isn't an issue.  At least they have dumped one of those spots (though cost cash to do so).  See who they actually fill into that spot before I get too excited about it.

I tend to agree with you but wondering what ring chasing vets actually wanted to sign here. Over the summer I wanted to sign one or two guys like Carmelo, cousins, whiteside, Aldridge or Dwight. However the fact that not a single team has signed them even with some injuries around the league seems to suggest all teams are viewing these guys as not nba quality players.

[Vermont Green]

There was another thread asking what are we going to do with our non-guaranteed players, I guess this is now one answer.  My reply was I did not think they would cut someone just to cut them.  At this point, that is proving wrong, they did exactly that with Vonleh.  This might not be the end of it though.  They may have something in the works and need to open a roster spot.  Surprised it was Vonleh and not Jackson though.

[Kuberski33]

There was another thread asking what are we going to do with our non-guaranteed players, I guess this is now one answer.  My reply was I did not think they would cut someone just to cut them.  At this point, that is proving wrong, they did exactly that with Vonleh.  This might not be the end of it though.  They may have something in the works and need to open a roster spot.  Surprised it was Vonleh and not Jackson though.

Keith Smith tweeted that dumping Vonleh now saves them $7 million in tax.

[Birdman]

Bench going be Celtics downfall once again

[Vermont Green]

There was another thread asking what are we going to do with our non-guaranteed players, I guess this is now one answer.  My reply was I did not think they would cut someone just to cut them.  At this point, that is proving wrong, they did exactly that with Vonleh.  This might not be the end of it though.  They may have something in the works and need to open a roster spot.  Surprised it was Vonleh and not Jackson though.

Keith Smith tweeted that dumping Vonleh now saves them $7 million in tax.

What would have been the difference if they had just cut him?  Is the $7M tax savings in relation to cutting him before the guarantee kicked in?  Or is this in relation to if they had kept him all season?

[Rikibellevie]

I Hope this spot will go to a real atlethic big option.
If it would be better to have a Real 2B option at center right now, cause Horford Plays way to much, there is no hurry and it may be smarter to wait buyouts. We are still at the top of the league even with some playing Time for Kornet ans Griffin. I am ok with loosing 2 or 3 loss more and wait for the good oportunities at C ans SG.

And for the argue that our 8-15th rotation is too weak for a contender, compare with other east contenders :
C's : Gallo, Hauser, Pritchard, Blake, Kornet, Davison Kabengele
Bucks : Ingles Nwora Matthews Hill Ibaka Thanasis Mamuk
Nets : Watanabe Mills Sumner Sharpe  Morris Edwards Williams

This 2 teams are our biggest opposition to go to final. Do tout really feel their end bench is better than our end rotation or scrubs ?
I don t, Bucks have more old confirmed players in the décline, when we have just Griffin. And thé young Nets sub have near to O PO contribution.
Yes Gallo is missing, but injuries happens ans Hauser is here to take his chance like a Sumner in Bkn or a Nwora in Bucks.
I trust PBS to Make the 2 last little move to fond a Big and a Gallo replacement for PO. Nothing urging, not the Time to panic or complain about a normal situation on a leading team on early january.

[Celtics4ever]

You were right, Roy!

[knuckleballer]

I wonder if Samanic will get the roster spot.  Or maybe they will just wait until after the trade deadline and buyouts.

[radiohead]

Interesting that the Spurs have been our trade partners of late.

[hwangjini_1]

There was another thread asking what are we going to do with our non-guaranteed players, I guess this is now one answer.  My reply was I did not think they would cut someone just to cut them.  At this point, that is proving wrong, they did exactly that with Vonleh.  This might not be the end of it though.  They may have something in the works and need to open a roster spot.  Surprised it was Vonleh and not Jackson though.

Keith Smith tweeted that dumping Vonleh now saves them $7 million in tax.

What would have been the difference if they had just cut him?  Is the $7M tax savings in relation to cutting him before the guarantee kicked in?  Or is this in relation to if they had kept him all season?

as i understand this, so the deal is basically...

boston sends vonleh to SA with enough cash to cover his remaining guarantees. this save the celtics roughly $6-7 million in tax at the end of the year, as opposed to waiving him.

SAgets Vonleh, and the cash, waives him at no cost to them, but saves money because they are $16 million below the floor. meaning they spend boston's cash but get closer to the floor and have to pay out less later.

the celtics will likely get either a never to convey 2nd or draft rights to some nobody. but right now i think the flexibility of an open roster spot is more valuable.

this shows me that PBS is hard at work.

[Wretch]

Don't the Cs also get a small (vet min) TPE? So they can take on a player on a min contract without send out a player and saving their larger TPEs.

[BitterJim]

Don't the Cs also get a small (vet min) TPE? So they can take on a player on a min contract without send out a player and saving their larger TPEs.

You can already acquire minimum contracts in a trade without needing to match salaries/use a TPE so no, not really.