Celtics Undervaluing Grant?

[Ed Monix]

HoopsHype's Michael Scotto reported the team "never offered more than $50 million guaranteed over four years." Scotto previously reported in October the 6'6" forward was believed to be wanting a deal paying him $12-14 million annually.

Williams is now due to hit restricted free agency in the offseason. That allows the Celtics to match any offer sheet he signs, but they may not utilize that luxury when the moment arrives.

According to Scotto, Boston might balk if Williams is handed a deal worth $18 million or more from another team.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

HoopsHype's Michael Scotto reported the team "never offered more than $50 million guaranteed over four years." Scotto previously reported in October the 6'6" forward was believed to be wanting a deal paying him $12-14 million annually.

Williams is now due to hit restricted free agency in the offseason. That allows the Celtics to match any offer sheet he signs, but they may not utilize that luxury when the moment arrives.

According to Scotto, Boston might balk if Williams is handed a deal worth $18 million or more from another team.

If he wants $12-$14M annually, a 4-year deal worth $50M comes fits that range (at $12.5M per year). I'd be willing to go a little higher, maybe $15M per.

[Goldstar88]

I’d imagine that they offered him the same deal that Timelord received, which I think is more than fair. Grant is not the Talent Rob is, but he’s durable which evens the scale.

[Celtics4ever]

A lot of this will depend on Sam Hauser's performance this year as I see it.   Can he be consistent enough that we do not need Grant?   

[SparzWizard]

Obviously we can't keep everyone as they want to get paid. Well, if GWill can put up solid numbers consistently then Wyc and PBS will pay him. And yes, that also depends on Hauser on whether he pans out and if he can fill the GWill role for cheap.

[nickagneta]

A lot of this will depend on Sam Hauser's performance this year as I see it.   Can he be consistent enough that we do not need Grant?   

Doubt Hauser has anything to do with it. Yeah, both can shoot threes at a high rate but Grant is a tough, versatile defender that can credibly guard some really tough bigger guys at a very good level. His tremendous strength allows him to deny position and beat up on players defensively and in a seven game playoff series that proves extremely valuable.

Grant's contract will depend on Grant's performance and demands and have nothing to do with Hauser. My guess is the team might go as high as 4 years at $15 million per year. But if Grant is looking for current Marcus Smart type money, he will be allowed to walk.

[radiohead]

I think Grant’s excellent play is mainly due to the players around him and the system as well. He’s a role player who can very well be replaced if his asking price becomes too much. Of course we all want GWill to remain with the Cs because we saw him grow year after year to what he is now. It’ll be interesting to see how much other teams are willing to offer him.

[slamtheking]

A lot of this will depend on Sam Hauser's performance this year as I see it.   Can he be consistent enough that we do not need Grant?   

Doubt Hauser has anything to do with it. Yeah, both can shoot threes at a high rate but Grant is a tough, versatile defender that can credibly guard some really tough bigger guys at a very good level. His tremendous strength allows him to deny position and beat up on players defensively and in a seven game playoff series that proves extremely valuable.

Grant's contract will depend on Grant's performance and demands and have nothing to do with Hauser. My guess is the team might go as high as 4 years at $15 million per year. But if Grant is looking for current Marcus Smart type money, he will be allowed to walk.

I'm pretty much in agreement on this except I think if Grant has a really good year, they may match anything up to $18 mill per year.  they're not exactly loaded up front and trying to fill his space on the roster would require a trade for anyone close to comparable.  might as well sign him and keep that hole filled

[Roy H.]

How does his value compare to other mid-salary guys, like Smart and White?

[radiohead]

How does his value compare to other mid-salary guys, like Smart and White?

Another good question is if his value will increase if the Celtics win it all this year? The pressure will be there to “run it back”?

[gouki88]

How does his value compare to other mid-salary guys, like Smart and White?

Smart's 4/76 and White's 4/70 are hopefully not the ballpark we are looking at for Grant. I think Timelord money is more appropriate - he is less dynamic and impactful than the Timelord, but more durable

[PAOBoston]

Think they do the same thing they did with Smart. Let him hit FA and see what is out there. If someone throws crazy money at him, let him walk. If he signs for something reasonable, then great. I would not overextend to sign this guy.

I appreciate his hard work in improving his game but he has significant limitations and honestly think Cs could find a swing player elsewhere for a cheaper price. He’s good shooting the 3 but can’t really defend, rebound, or pass very well.

Ownership has already shown and unwillingness to overspend (letting TPE expire) so I don’t think they are going to throw the bag at him if he wants anything more than like $10 mil.

[Kuberski33]

I think someone will offer him more than they are willing to spend. I guess the anticipation is that they can find someone to deliver a sizeable percentage of what Grant does for a lot less money.  Not sure I agree. But this is the type of situation where your GM earns his money. And I trust Brad.

[MattyIce]

How does his value compare to other mid-salary guys, like Smart and White?

Another good question is if his value will increase if the Celtics win it all this year? The pressure will be there to “run it back”?

good question, let’s hope we get an answer!

[Celtics2021]

How does his value compare to other mid-salary guys, like Smart and White?

What do you think Smart would have gotten on the open market last summer?