NBA Season 2022-23

[radiohead]

Come on home, Nerlens!



Adrian Wojnarowski: Center Nerlens Noel and the Detroit Pistons have completed a contract buyout, his agent @George Langberg tells ESPN. Noel can join a team and become eligible for a playoff roster. – via Twitter wojespn

This makes so much sense as Detroit is stacked with young bigs. Nerlens could be the perfect back up for Rob.

[tazzmaniac]

Wow, Jokic with 40pts on a ridiculous 14-21 FGA and 12-15 FTA along with 17 rebounds and 10 assists. That is insane production and efficiency.

3 steals for good measure as well.

To me this is the most wild stat about Jokic's season:

Per ESPN: Jokic ties the record for most consecutive games shooting at least 50%, joining Robert Williams at 48 straight games.

It's impressive enough for Rob to have part of that record, but he's scoring mostly on lobs, layups and put-backs.  Jokic has an all-around offensive game, and he's barely missing.

That's incredible. It doesn't even make sense that he has been able to do that with all the long shots, midrange shots and difficult shots he takes. And with that volume of shots too.

Yeah, Jokic nearly triples the amount of PPG of RWIII and is the main (sometimes only) focus of opposition defences.

Shaq only shot better from the field than Jokic has this season once, and it was his brief stint in Boston.

If Jokic is the main focus of opposition defenses, how come he isn't even in the top 20 players who face double teams? 
https://nbacourtoptix.nba.com/en/metrics/double-teams

In your opinion, who / what is the focus of defenses playing Denver?

Does there have to be a focus?  Defend Jokic straight up most of the time.  To compare Jokic to Shaq is ridonculous. 

[Phantom255x]

Shams is reporting Lebron could be out indefinitely for a period of time due to his foot/ankle injury

Would be a massive loss for LAL in their playoff hopes

[Who]

Shams is reporting Lebron could be out indefinitely for a period of time due to his foot/ankle injury

Would be a massive loss for LAL in their playoff hopes

They could probably hang in there without him. D Russell will help cover LeBron's absence better than LAL has been able to do in the past. Anthony Davis will go back to NOP mode and put up huge numbers with the team operating around him again instead of around LeBron.

They could still play .500 ball.

[Moranis]

Man the Warriors bungled Wiseman.  He has been playing pretty well for Detroit. 

11/5
8/10
10/10

and so far tonight 19/5

Shooting well over 50% in the almost 4 games. 

Not a good defender, but he clearly has solid instincts around the rim and he is still just 21.  What a disaster for GS to waste the #2 pick on a guy that was a terrible fit for them and then to sell him off for a guy you let walk in free agency the prior summer.  Just a mess.

[Goldstar88]

Least the 76ers lost tonight.

[Goldstar88]

He’s almost as injury prone as Hayward. Yeesh.

Charlotte Hornets star LaMelo Ball suffered a fracture in his right ankle during Monday night's win over the Detroit Pistons, the team announced after the game.

[celticsclay]

Wow, Jokic with 40pts on a ridiculous 14-21 FGA and 12-15 FTA along with 17 rebounds and 10 assists. That is insane production and efficiency.

3 steals for good measure as well.

To me this is the most wild stat about Jokic's season:

Per ESPN: Jokic ties the record for most consecutive games shooting at least 50%, joining Robert Williams at 48 straight games.

It's impressive enough for Rob to have part of that record, but he's scoring mostly on lobs, layups and put-backs.  Jokic has an all-around offensive game, and he's barely missing.

That's incredible. It doesn't even make sense that he has been able to do that with all the long shots, midrange shots and difficult shots he takes. And with that volume of shots too.

Yeah, Jokic nearly triples the amount of PPG of RWIII and is the main (sometimes only) focus of opposition defences.

Shaq only shot better from the field than Jokic has this season once, and it was his brief stint in Boston.

If Jokic is the main focus of opposition defenses, how come he isn't even in the top 20 players who face double teams? 
https://nbacourtoptix.nba.com/en/metrics/double-teams

You know you can be an Embid fan without constantly trying to denigrate jokic? I like Embid too, quite a bit. But the stuff you are saying is just weird and petty. Like saying the nuggets would still make playoffs without jokic with a still recovering Murray and Gordon as a big two was just weird.

[celticsclay]

Man the Warriors bungled Wiseman.  He has been playing pretty well for Detroit. 

11/5
8/10
10/10

and so far tonight 19/5

Shooting well over 50% in the almost 4 games. 

Not a good defender, but he clearly has solid instincts around the rim and he is still just 21.  What a disaster for GS to waste the #2 pick on a guy that was a terrible fit for them and then to sell him off for a guy you let walk in free agency the prior summer.  Just a mess.

I dunno. Wiseman could turn out to be decent and is still young, but putting up some numbers for Detroit right now is not really indicative of being an nba contributer. I believe bagley had a string of games like this when he first got there and I am No longer very high on him
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[tazzmaniac]

Wow, Jokic with 40pts on a ridiculous 14-21 FGA and 12-15 FTA along with 17 rebounds and 10 assists. That is insane production and efficiency.

3 steals for good measure as well.

To me this is the most wild stat about Jokic's season:

Per ESPN: Jokic ties the record for most consecutive games shooting at least 50%, joining Robert Williams at 48 straight games.

It's impressive enough for Rob to have part of that record, but he's scoring mostly on lobs, layups and put-backs.  Jokic has an all-around offensive game, and he's barely missing.

That's incredible. It doesn't even make sense that he has been able to do that with all the long shots, midrange shots and difficult shots he takes. And with that volume of shots too.

Yeah, Jokic nearly triples the amount of PPG of RWIII and is the main (sometimes only) focus of opposition defences.

Shaq only shot better from the field than Jokic has this season once, and it was his brief stint in Boston.

If Jokic is the main focus of opposition defenses, how come he isn't even in the top 20 players who face double teams? 
https://nbacourtoptix.nba.com/en/metrics/double-teams

You know you can be an Embid fan without constantly trying to denigrate jokic? I like Embid too, quite a bit. But the stuff you are saying is just weird and petty. Like saying the nuggets would still make playoffs without jokic with a still recovering Murray and Gordon as a big two was just weird.

Apparently a few posts to provide some balance to the pedestal most everyone on here puts Jokic on is "constantly denigrating".  The Nuggets have a big lead in the West so with Murray, Gordon and Porter I think they would still make the playoffs albeit they could lose in the play-in games.  How is it denigrating accurately pointing out that Jokic is not an elite 2-way player like Giannis, Embiid and Tatum?  I think it is stupid that defense isn't given any weight for MVP.  I don't think he should be a 3 straight MVP with Jordan, Bird, Chamberlain and Russell. 

As for the latest post when someone says "Jokic is the main (sometimes only) focus of defenses", that says to me Jokic must be getting double teamed a lot especially when Shaq is mentioned in the post.  So I was surprised when Jokic was not in the top 20 players being double teamed.  Now maybe you have some other definition for main (sometimes only) focus of defenses or some other metric to measure it. 

[Birdman]

He’s almost as injury prone as Hayward. Yeesh.

Charlotte Hornets star LaMelo Ball suffered a fracture in his right ankle during Monday night's win over the Detroit Pistons, the team announced after the game.

Ball family made out of glass..all the hype for both guys but unfortunately can’t stay healthy

[Goldstar88]

He’s almost as injury prone as Hayward. Yeesh.

Charlotte Hornets star LaMelo Ball suffered a fracture in his right ankle during Monday night's win over the Detroit Pistons, the team announced after the game.

Ball family made out of glass..all the hype for both guys but unfortunately can’t stay healthy

Yeah, it’s too bad. They are exciting players to watch.

[Vermont Green]

If Jokic is the main focus of opposition defenses, how come he isn't even in the top 20 players who face double teams? 
https://nbacourtoptix.nba.com/en/metrics/double-teams

That is a really cool stat.  It is interesting that Jokic doesn't get doubled more.  I think because he is such a good passer, that it limits teams' willingness to double him.  He also seems to make passes quickly, doesn't always wait for a double to come.

I would say that any team that faces Denver in the playoffs, will focus on stopping Jokic, or at least controlling him.  Playoff series tend to allow a team to dial in better to stopping one player.  I think that is why it is important for Denver to have a health Murray, Gordon, and Porter.  Teams will try to take Jokic out, by double team or otherwise, creating more opportunities for others.

[Who]

Joey Linn
@joeylinn_
The Clippers are now 11-24 against teams .500 or better.

The only Western Conference teams with a worse mark are the Rockets and Spurs.
6:13 am · 27 Feb 2023 43.4K Views

That is an interesting tweet & stat.

That has got to worry Clippers fans. 3rd worst mark in the league against average & above average teams. Only two worse are two of the worst teams in the league.

[bdm860]

Joey Linn
@joeylinn_
The Clippers are now 11-24 against teams .500 or better.

The only Western Conference teams with a worse mark are the Rockets and Spurs.
6:13 am · 27 Feb 2023 43.4K Views

That is an interesting tweet & stat.

That has got to worry Clippers fans. 3rd worst mark in the league against average & above average teams. Only two worse are two of the worst teams in the league.

Those fans probably still have room for optimism.

By my quick count:

7 of those L's they were missing both Kawhi and PG
6 of those L's they were missing Kawhi only
2 of those L's they were missing PG only
1 of those L's came when Kawhi was coming off the bench and on a minutes restriction


In games when both George and Kawhi are available for the whole game, they're a much more palatable 7-8 against teams .500 or better.