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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #2100 on: February 27, 2023, 11:32:33 AM »

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Feels like the Clippers have been going to OT a lot lately lol.

Can't be ideal for the whole "load management" plan they have with the likes of Kawhi. One thing I am noticing is, LAC's defense is not good. Feels like teams have no problem putting up big nights against them in terms of points. In 6 of their last 8 games, they've given up 115+ to teams, and obviously that double OT against SAC they gave up 176
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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #2101 on: February 27, 2023, 11:58:56 AM »

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“Oh, man. Really wish I didn’t trade for Kyrie…”  :-\
"I can't wait to sign and trade this guy for Ayton"

I don’t think the Suns would make that trade. It would ruin them defensively. Phoenix has the best defense in the western conference. Will be really interesting to see what Cuban offers Kyrie over the summer.
They'd be hard capped which given what Durant and Booker make, make it very difficult for them to acquire anyone that is sign and traded.  That said, if the numbers worked, I do think something like Ayton, Paul, Shamet for Irving, Kleber, and Bullock (plus a couple of draft picks whenever Dallas can trade them) is a reasonable trade for both teams. 
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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #2102 on: February 27, 2023, 12:33:36 PM »

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Feels like the Clippers have been going to OT a lot lately lol.

Can't be ideal for the whole "load management" plan they have with the likes of Kawhi. One thing I am noticing is, LAC's defense is not good. Feels like teams have no problem putting up big nights against them in terms of points. In 6 of their last 8 games, they've given up 115+ to teams, and obviously that double OT against SAC they gave up 176

I was surprised that Westbrook didn’t play in 4th or OT he was having a very efficient game.

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #2103 on: February 27, 2023, 12:36:42 PM »

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“Oh, man. Really wish I didn’t trade for Kyrie…”  :-\
"I can't wait to sign and trade this guy for Ayton"

I don’t think the Suns would make that trade. It would ruin them defensively. Phoenix has the best defense in the western conference. Will be really interesting to see what Cuban offers Kyrie over the summer.
They'd be hard capped which given what Durant and Booker make, make it very difficult for them to acquire anyone that is sign and traded.  That said, if the numbers worked, I do think something like Ayton, Paul, Shamet for Irving, Kleber, and Bullock (plus a couple of draft picks whenever Dallas can trade them) is a reasonable trade for both teams.

Ayton + Shamet works for the salaries.  They'd have no problem fitting under the hard cap if they either traded or stretched Paul.  CP3 only has $15.8 million guaranteed next year, and is fully unguaranteed the following year, so stretching him would take his cap hit from $30.8 million to $3.16 million each year for 5 years.  This would leave them the cap space to resign Landale and Craig and add someone with the MLE, and maybe even the BAE, to fill out the roster.

I don't know that Ayton and Shamet works for the Mavs, but cap-wise, Kyrie, KD, and Booker can team up in Phoenix and have a few other players on the roster.

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #2104 on: February 27, 2023, 12:50:01 PM »

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The NBA and National Basketball Players Association are progressing in talks on reaching a new collective bargaining agreement, multiple sources with knowledge of both sides of the discussions tell The Athletic. The sides have extended their mutual opt-out deadline during the process and currently have a March 31 deadline to reach an agreement on a new CBA, have one party opt-out or once again extend the process. Sources say that there’s been significant progress made in recent weeks on key issues and it’s given the hope that a deal is within grasp in the coming weeks. – via Shams Charania @ The Athletic

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The NBPA has informed the league office that it is their intention and goal to complete a deal in March, according to sources. “We want to finish this deal soon and certainly want this wrapped up before the (March 31) deadline,” one high-ranking source involved in the players’ negotiations, who was granted anonymity so they could speak freely, told The Athletic. “It’s close — we need to dot the I’s and cross the T’s.”

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Lowering the age eligibility for the NBA Draft to 18 years old, which would effectively end the one-and-done system in college basketball. The NBA and NBPA have momentum on an agreement to terms that would lower the age to 18 for the draft, but sources say the union is pushing for conditions that would facilitate veteran players providing tutelage and orientation to the high schoolers entering the league. The players union wants to maintain the presence of veteran players and not allow newcomers to replace them, especially in the cases of teams with high school prospects who enter the NBA.

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Increasing the contract extension limits, which would add flexibility and have significant effects incredibly quickly. Under the current CBA, teams and players can only increase the player’s salary by 120 percent in the first new year of the extension unless that player qualifies as a designated player/rookie or makes well below the league’s average salary. Shifting that 120 percent to potentially 140-150 percent as the sides have discussed, according to sources, opens the door a lot more for players who signed contracts that eventually become below-market deals to get enough of a raise to commit ahead of time, a group that potentially includes O.G. Anunoby, Domantas Sabonis and Lauri Markkanen over the next few seasons


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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #2105 on: February 27, 2023, 01:17:27 PM »

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21 FGA for Westbrook & Hyland last night. That is something to watch moving forward. That is a lot of shots for their PGs.

They got PG13 & Kawhi as their main men. Then N Powell, E Gordon and M Morris as second tier scorers. Then the PGs and Mann in the 3rd tier. Then Batum, Zubac, Plumlee as lowest usage scorers.

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #2106 on: February 27, 2023, 02:12:05 PM »

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21 FGA for Westbrook & Hyland last night. That is something to watch moving forward. That is a lot of shots for their PGs.

They got PG13 & Kawhi as their main men. Then N Powell, E Gordon and M Morris as second tier scorers. Then the PGs and Mann in the 3rd tier. Then Batum, Zubac, Plumlee as lowest usage scorers.
I think they'll take 6 of 10 from Westbrook every game and be just fine. 
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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #2107 on: February 27, 2023, 02:27:02 PM »

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21 FGA for Westbrook & Hyland last night. That is something to watch moving forward. That is a lot of shots for their PGs.

They got PG13 & Kawhi as their main men. Then N Powell, E Gordon and M Morris as second tier scorers. Then the PGs and Mann in the 3rd tier. Then Batum, Zubac, Plumlee as lowest usage scorers.
I think they'll take 6 of 10 from Westbrook every game and be just fine.

I agree with Mo on this one. Westbrook for super efficient last night.

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #2108 on: February 27, 2023, 03:42:34 PM »

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Wow, Jokic with 40pts on a ridiculous 14-21 FGA and 12-15 FTA along with 17 rebounds and 10 assists. That is insane production and efficiency.

3 steals for good measure as well.

To me this is the most wild stat about Jokic's season:

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Per ESPN: Jokic ties the record for most consecutive games shooting at least 50%, joining Robert Williams at 48 straight games.

It's impressive enough for Rob to have part of that record, but he's scoring mostly on lobs, layups and put-backs.  Jokic has an all-around offensive game, and he's barely missing.

That's incredible. It doesn't even make sense that he has been able to do that with all the long shots, midrange shots and difficult shots he takes. And with that volume of shots too.
Yeah, Jokic nearly triples the amount of PPG of RWIII and is the main (sometimes only) focus of opposition defences.

Shaq only shot better from the field than Jokic has this season once, and it was his brief stint in Boston.
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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #2109 on: February 27, 2023, 04:11:34 PM »

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Wow, Jokic with 40pts on a ridiculous 14-21 FGA and 12-15 FTA along with 17 rebounds and 10 assists. That is insane production and efficiency.

3 steals for good measure as well.

To me this is the most wild stat about Jokic's season:

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Per ESPN: Jokic ties the record for most consecutive games shooting at least 50%, joining Robert Williams at 48 straight games.

It's impressive enough for Rob to have part of that record, but he's scoring mostly on lobs, layups and put-backs.  Jokic has an all-around offensive game, and he's barely missing.

That's incredible. It doesn't even make sense that he has been able to do that with all the long shots, midrange shots and difficult shots he takes. And with that volume of shots too.
Yeah, Jokic nearly triples the amount of PPG of RWIII and is the main (sometimes only) focus of opposition defences.

Shaq only shot better from the field than Jokic has this season once, and it was his brief stint in Boston.
If Jokic is the main focus of opposition defenses, how come he isn't even in the top 20 players who face double teams? 
https://nbacourtoptix.nba.com/en/metrics/double-teams 

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #2110 on: February 27, 2023, 04:24:57 PM »

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Wow, Jokic with 40pts on a ridiculous 14-21 FGA and 12-15 FTA along with 17 rebounds and 10 assists. That is insane production and efficiency.

3 steals for good measure as well.

To me this is the most wild stat about Jokic's season:

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Per ESPN: Jokic ties the record for most consecutive games shooting at least 50%, joining Robert Williams at 48 straight games.

It's impressive enough for Rob to have part of that record, but he's scoring mostly on lobs, layups and put-backs.  Jokic has an all-around offensive game, and he's barely missing.

That's incredible. It doesn't even make sense that he has been able to do that with all the long shots, midrange shots and difficult shots he takes. And with that volume of shots too.
Yeah, Jokic nearly triples the amount of PPG of RWIII and is the main (sometimes only) focus of opposition defences.

Shaq only shot better from the field than Jokic has this season once, and it was his brief stint in Boston.
If Jokic is the main focus of opposition defenses, how come he isn't even in the top 20 players who face double teams? 
https://nbacourtoptix.nba.com/en/metrics/double-teams

 He is the best passing big man of all time and he plays with excellent shooters. It’s a waste to double him. By comparison, though he has gotten a little bit better at this, someone like
Embid does way more turnovers on a double team.

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #2111 on: February 27, 2023, 04:42:40 PM »

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Wow, Jokic with 40pts on a ridiculous 14-21 FGA and 12-15 FTA along with 17 rebounds and 10 assists. That is insane production and efficiency.

3 steals for good measure as well.

To me this is the most wild stat about Jokic's season:

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Per ESPN: Jokic ties the record for most consecutive games shooting at least 50%, joining Robert Williams at 48 straight games.

It's impressive enough for Rob to have part of that record, but he's scoring mostly on lobs, layups and put-backs.  Jokic has an all-around offensive game, and he's barely missing.

That's incredible. It doesn't even make sense that he has been able to do that with all the long shots, midrange shots and difficult shots he takes. And with that volume of shots too.
Yeah, Jokic nearly triples the amount of PPG of RWIII and is the main (sometimes only) focus of opposition defences.

Shaq only shot better from the field than Jokic has this season once, and it was his brief stint in Boston.
If Jokic is the main focus of opposition defenses, how come he isn't even in the top 20 players who face double teams? 
https://nbacourtoptix.nba.com/en/metrics/double-teams

In your opinion, who / what is the focus of defenses playing Denver?


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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #2112 on: February 27, 2023, 06:18:25 PM »

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Wow, Jokic with 40pts on a ridiculous 14-21 FGA and 12-15 FTA along with 17 rebounds and 10 assists. That is insane production and efficiency.

3 steals for good measure as well.

To me this is the most wild stat about Jokic's season:

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Per ESPN: Jokic ties the record for most consecutive games shooting at least 50%, joining Robert Williams at 48 straight games.

It's impressive enough for Rob to have part of that record, but he's scoring mostly on lobs, layups and put-backs.  Jokic has an all-around offensive game, and he's barely missing.

That's incredible. It doesn't even make sense that he has been able to do that with all the long shots, midrange shots and difficult shots he takes. And with that volume of shots too.
Yeah, Jokic nearly triples the amount of PPG of RWIII and is the main (sometimes only) focus of opposition defences.

Shaq only shot better from the field than Jokic has this season once, and it was his brief stint in Boston.

I didn’t realize that Jokic was averaging a triple double until yesterday. 24.8pts, 11.7rebs, 10ast While shooting 60/40/80. Just ridiculous.
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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #2113 on: February 27, 2023, 06:51:49 PM »

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Wow, Jokic with 40pts on a ridiculous 14-21 FGA and 12-15 FTA along with 17 rebounds and 10 assists. That is insane production and efficiency.

3 steals for good measure as well.

To me this is the most wild stat about Jokic's season:

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Per ESPN: Jokic ties the record for most consecutive games shooting at least 50%, joining Robert Williams at 48 straight games.

It's impressive enough for Rob to have part of that record, but he's scoring mostly on lobs, layups and put-backs.  Jokic has an all-around offensive game, and he's barely missing.

That's incredible. It doesn't even make sense that he has been able to do that with all the long shots, midrange shots and difficult shots he takes. And with that volume of shots too.
Yeah, Jokic nearly triples the amount of PPG of RWIII and is the main (sometimes only) focus of opposition defences.

Shaq only shot better from the field than Jokic has this season once, and it was his brief stint in Boston.

I didn’t realize that Jokic was averaging a triple double until yesterday. 24.8pts, 11.7rebs, 10ast While shooting 60/40/80. Just ridiculous.

He's slacking on those FTs.  What a bum.


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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #2114 on: February 27, 2023, 07:22:31 PM »

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At some point you have to blame the performance on the court on the players on the court. Every loss is not the coach's fault and every win isn't because of the players.