NBA Season 2022-23

[Birdman]

Enjoying the sixers, Lakers and Nets struggling to start this season.

Cant say I’m surprise..Nets maybe but Sixers has no bench & Lakers are just plain lost, spent all that money on 3 players & it’s costing them

[SHAQATTACK]

I have a feeling the Lakers win tonight.  Not even watching the game so nothing that I 'm seeing.  Just a gut feeling.  I hope I'm wrong.

I honestly thought this was a mo post when I first read it. When are people going to accept the lakers are just not a very good team. I was at this game and after halftime there were very few competitive moments. And I haven’t even looked at their stat lines but both Lebron and ad looked old.

Thanks for the at game analysis.  I watched first half , got incredibly bored .  I noticed early on , maybe 1 st quarter , AD was grabbing his lower back and more as game wore on.   

He maybe getting ready to miss a stretch of games.  Without him ,  they are G league team .

Lebron , doesn’t work at all on the court .  He avoids having to play defense and contact and this wears the other players out picking up his slack.  He only puts n effort 25% time he is on the court , standing around looking for an easy basket and playing no defense.

[Birdman]

Lakers can’t blame Westbrook on this lost

[Moranis]

I have a feeling the Lakers win tonight.  Not even watching the game so nothing that I 'm seeing.  Just a gut feeling.  I hope I'm wrong.

I honestly thought this was a mo post when I first read it. When are people going to accept the lakers are just not a very good team. I was at this game and after halftime there were very few competitive moments. And I haven’t even looked at their stat lines but both Lebron and ad looked old.

Thanks for the at game analysis.  I watched first half , got incredibly bored .  I noticed early on , maybe 1 st quarter , AD was grabbing his lower back and more as game wore on.   

He maybe getting ready to miss a stretch of games.  Without him ,  they are G league team .

Lebron , doesn’t work at all on the court .  He avoids having to play defense and contact and this wears the other players out picking up his slack.  He only puts n effort 25% time he is on the court , standing around looking for an easy basket and playing no defense.

Are they?  Davis seems like one of the bigger issues on the team.  He certainly doesn't play like he is a top 75 player in league history in the heart of his prime.  And looking at things like on/off differential, the Lakers are actually significantly better when he isn't in the game this year.  His on/off differential per 100 possessions is -14.7 (and they are -11.9 per 100, when he is in the game).  That is very bad.  Only Walker, Reaves, and Nunn are worse than Davis in both of those this year.  Lebron is actually a +11.5 in his on/off differential thus far this year.  Heck, even Westbrook is +0.5. And this isn't new, the Lakers were better per 100 possessions with Davis on the bench last year as well (though it was barely better).  Even the title season, they were better in the regular season with Davis on the bench (he was a monster in the playoffs though) and 2 years ago, he was good, though not elite in that metric.

Westbrook is the easy scapegoat, but Davis is the guy whose play hasn't matched his talent, and it hasn't since he got hurt against Phoenix in the 1st round 2 playoffs ago.  As frustrating as Westbrook's play has been, I think the Lakers may be better served trading Davis, not only because he hasn't been playing well, but also because they could still get a pretty solid return for him, and could potentially replenish some of their draft picks and get some talent.   

[Roy H.]

Cool stat:

Paolo Banchero is the 7th player in NBA history to start his career with 5 straight 20-point games. The only players to start with more than 5 are Wilt Chamberlain (56), Elvin Hayes (10), Grant Hill, Dominique Wilkins and Oscar Robertson (6). Per @ESPNStatsInfo

It also reminds us how beastly Wilt was.

[Goldstar88]

What a shame... Lakers are the laughing stock or the league and it seems like that won’t be changing any time soon. Can’t believe they extended Palenka. Too funny.


During the offseason, Westbrook was the subject of trade rumors with teams like the Indiana Pacers and Utah Jazz. However, the Lakers were never able to come to an agreement on a deal. Despite that, there is still time for a deal to be made. “The big trades that people want with the Lakers, Westbrook and his $47 million out with those first-round picks the Lakers have in ’27 and ’29, all the deals the Lakers didn’t want to do in the offseason, that’s all that’s there two weeks into the season,” Wojnarowski said. “Teams don’t really get serious about doing deals and maybe pivoting away from trying to be a playoff team or trying to go toward the lottery in a year where there’s Victor Wembanyama available. They’re not going to do that until 20 or 30 games into the season. So, all the deals the Lakers didn’t think gave them enough value for trading those picks, they’re all still there. Utah, Indiana, who the Lakers talked with a lot in the offseason, I’m told they’ve not heard from the Lakers yet this season. “And so, people are going to have to get used to a team that’s not going to be able to make dramatic change for a while, if really at all this year.” – via Peter Dewey @ Lakers Daily

[RMO]

I have a feeling the Lakers win tonight.  Not even watching the game so nothing that I 'm seeing.  Just a gut feeling.  I hope I'm wrong.

I honestly thought this was a mo post when I first read it. When are people going to accept the lakers are just not a very good team. I was at this game and after halftime there were very few competitive moments. And I haven’t even looked at their stat lines but both Lebron and ad looked old.

I guess my hatred for that team can cloud my judgement.  I just had a weird feeling they'd get some fluke win last night.  Glad I was wrong and hope they keep losing.

[Moranis]

If the Lakers did make Davis available (and he was willing to come here), what would you be willing to give up for him?

[Roy H.]

If the Lakers did make Davis available (and he was willing to come here), what would you be willing to give up for him?

Horford + Gallo + two #1s.

The Lakers wouldn't do that.

[Csfan1984]

If the Lakers did make Davis available (and he was willing to come here), what would you be willing to give up for him?

Horford, TL and GW. No picks

Just unsure on TL health and resigns of Al and GW.

[Vermont Green]

If the Lakers did make Davis available (and he was willing to come here), what would you be willing to give up for him?

There was a point in time where I would have been OK even putting Tatum on the table for Davis.  Now I am not even sure I would consider Brown.  It is just so hard to judge a player when these kind of chronic injuries are involved.  Davis has still been productive.  I think he is still pretty good on defense also.  On paper, he would be the perfect player to pair with Tatum.  All the same reasons that LeBron wanted him.

I would say offer anything other than Tatum or Brown.  Which means it is less than the Lakers would ever take.  Something like White, RWill, and picks.  Maybe throw in Hauser.  But the current Celtics team is already good.  We don't have to take on the risk of a chronically injured player like Davis where other teams might see it differently and offer more.

[Goldstar88]

If the Lakers did make Davis available (and he was willing to come here), what would you be willing to give up for him?

Horford + Gallo + two #1s.

The Lakers wouldn't do that.

I don’t even know if I’d do that. AD misses so many games and it’s just going to get worse as he will be turning 30 soon. Last year he played in 40 games. The season before only 36 games. So a max player that’s likely going to miss half the season and he’s already banged up this year. Pass.

[Roy H.]

If the Lakers did make Davis available (and he was willing to come here), what would you be willing to give up for him?

Horford, TL and GW. No picks

Just unsure on TL health and resigns of Al and GW.

I don't think our team could survive that.  We'd be giving up three big men for one, with nothing but G-league depth behind him.

[Birdman]

Don’t want Davis for 2 reasons: hurt all the time & didn’t want to come here when New Orleans made him available

[Moranis]

If the Lakers did make Davis available (and he was willing to come here), what would you be willing to give up for him?

Horford + Gallo + two #1s.

The Lakers wouldn't do that.

I don’t even know if I’d do that. AD misses so many games and it’s just going to get worse as he will be turning 30 soon. Last year he played in 40 games. The season before only 36 games. So a max player that’s likely going to miss half the season and he’s already banged up this year. Pass.

He does, but Tatum, Brown, and Davis + guys like Smart, Brogdon.  The team would be the biggest favorite since Durant was in San Francisco.