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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1080 on: December 21, 2022, 05:13:42 PM »

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Shams Charania: Sources: The NBA has taken away the Knicks’ 2025 second-round due to investigation into tampering of Jalen Brunson signing.
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Fred Katz: The Knicks own the better of Utah’s or Cleveland’s 2024 second rounder, as well as Detroit’s in 2024. League source says the NBA took away the Knicks’ 2025 second-rounder instead because the they preferred to take away one of NY’s own picks instead of one NY acquired.

That will teach them.

This is consistent with what the league has been doing.

Philly just lost two 2nd round picks for tampering with Tucker and House.

Milwaukee (Bogdanovich), Miami (Lowry), Chicago (Ball) all lost 2nd round picks for tampering last year.

So it seems pretty established now, the cost to tamper is a 2nd round pick.


And let's just put this here, from 2019:

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In 2019, the league's Board of Governors approved "a series of measures to more strictly enforce compliance with tampering an salary-cap circumvention," according to ESPN's Tim Bontemps. Those penalties included fines up to $10 million, the loss of draft picks, suspensions for executives found guilty of tampering and even the threat of voiding contracts.

"The provisions passed unanimously," NBA Commissioner Adam Silver told reporters afterward. "And there was a strong view, I think, of every single person in the room that we need to ensure that we're creating a culture of compliance in this league and that our teams want to know that they're competing on a level playing field and frankly don't want to feel disadvantaged if they are adhering to our existing rules."

Why did they make a big fuss about this if they really weren't going to do anything about it?

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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1081 on: December 21, 2022, 06:00:52 PM »

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So it seems pretty established now, the cost to tamper is a 2nd round pick.

Yes, and it’s a ridiculously light penalty, particularly when the league makes sure that any valuable pick isn’t forfeited.


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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1082 on: December 21, 2022, 06:08:29 PM »

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If the NBA wants to be serious about tampering , any 1st time offense would be automatic loss of your next 1st round pick. 2nd offense would be two first round picks and a significant financial fine. 3rd offense would be automatic dismissal of the GM.

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1083 on: December 21, 2022, 06:18:28 PM »

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If the NBA wants to be serious about tampering , any 1st time offense would be automatic loss of your next 1st round pick. 2nd offense would be two first round picks and a significant financial fine. 3rd offense would be automatic dismissal of the GM.

Exactly.  Remember the Joe Smith penalty for negotiating a side deal?  That’s how you shut down rulebreaking.


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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1084 on: December 21, 2022, 09:52:26 PM »

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The Nets scored 91 points in the first half against the Warriors tonight. Crazy.


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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1085 on: December 21, 2022, 10:42:35 PM »

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So what's the deal with Khris Middleton being out again for the last several games? Is he going to make it back for the Christmas Day matchup?

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1086 on: December 22, 2022, 12:53:48 AM »

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So what's the deal with Khris Middleton being out again for the last several games? Is he going to make it back for the Christmas Day matchup?

Not sure. Still nursing a knee injury I believe. But I do know the Celtics have their own string of problems to tie up. Last thing I wanna see are the Middleton-less Bucks feasting on this version of the C's.


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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1087 on: December 23, 2022, 03:21:19 PM »

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Lakers just announce that Anthony Davis will be out indefinitely..other words, for rest of season probably..stress fracture in foot takes long time to heal especially if u running up and down the court
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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1088 on: December 23, 2022, 03:28:03 PM »

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Lakers just announce that Anthony Davis will be out indefinitely..other words, for rest of season probably..stress fracture in foot takes long time to heal especially if u running up and down the court

Unfortunately for the Lakers, they are unable to trade LeBron due to the recent changes he made to his contract. This has resulted in a lost season for the team, which most around here will find enjoyable.

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1089 on: December 23, 2022, 04:02:00 PM »

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Lakers just announce that Anthony Davis will be out indefinitely..other words, for rest of season probably..stress fracture in foot takes long time to heal especially if u running up and down the court

Unfortunately for the Lakers, they are unable to trade LeBron due to the recent changes he made to his contract. This has resulted in a lost season for the team, which most around here will find enjoyable.

As much as I like seeing the Lakers struggle, I just read that their somewhat-better play of late has their GM thinking about making big moves (such as trading for Zach Lavine) to try to keep things heading in the right direction. I'm hoping, of course, that doesn't happen, but because they're the Lakers, they have a much easier time climbing out of holes than other teams, and it seems like other teams (inexplicably) often want to help them, so I wouldn't be surprised to see the Lakers turn their season around. The NBA doesn't want a postseason without its golden boy.
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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1090 on: December 23, 2022, 04:06:39 PM »

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Lakers just announce that Anthony Davis will be out indefinitely..other words, for rest of season probably..stress fracture in foot takes long time to heal especially if u running up and down the court

Unfortunately for the Lakers, they are unable to trade LeBron due to the recent changes he made to his contract. This has resulted in a lost season for the team, which most around here will find enjoyable.

As much as I like seeing the Lakers struggle, I just read that their somewhat-better play of late has their GM thinking about making big moves (such as trading for Zach Lavine) to try to keep things heading in the right direction. I'm hoping, of course, that doesn't happen, but because they're the Lakers, they have a much easier time climbing out of holes than other teams, and it seems like other teams (inexplicably) often want to help them, so I wouldn't be surprised to see the Lakers turn their season around. The NBA doesn't want a postseason without its golden boy.

What can they possibly offer besides Lebron or AD though in any major moves? Realistically all they can do is make some minor trades but at this stage it may not be worth it. They may want to seriously consider moving AD to get some pieces for a rebuild though.

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1091 on: December 23, 2022, 05:16:35 PM »

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Lakers just announce that Anthony Davis will be out indefinitely..other words, for rest of season probably..stress fracture in foot takes long time to heal especially if u running up and down the court

Unfortunately for the Lakers, they are unable to trade LeBron due to the recent changes he made to his contract. This has resulted in a lost season for the team, which most around here will find enjoyable.

As much as I like seeing the Lakers struggle, I just read that their somewhat-better play of late has their GM thinking about making big moves (such as trading for Zach Lavine) to try to keep things heading in the right direction. I'm hoping, of course, that doesn't happen, but because they're the Lakers, they have a much easier time climbing out of holes than other teams, and it seems like other teams (inexplicably) often want to help them, so I wouldn't be surprised to see the Lakers turn their season around. The NBA doesn't want a postseason without its golden boy.

What in the world are you talking about? The only free agent of note they have signed since Dwight Howard like ten years ago is Lebron who went there for non basketball reasons. They didn’t even make the playin last year. They massively
Overpaid for Davis bidding against themselves. People act like they are some boogeyman but they have one 1 Mickey Mouse title and a ton of lottery trips in the last 15 years.

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1092 on: December 23, 2022, 05:54:57 PM »

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Lakers just announce that Anthony Davis will be out indefinitely..other words, for rest of season probably..stress fracture in foot takes long time to heal especially if u running up and down the court

Unfortunately for the Lakers, they are unable to trade LeBron due to the recent changes he made to his contract. This has resulted in a lost season for the team, which most around here will find enjoyable.

As much as I like seeing the Lakers struggle, I just read that their somewhat-better play of late has their GM thinking about making big moves (such as trading for Zach Lavine) to try to keep things heading in the right direction. I'm hoping, of course, that doesn't happen, but because they're the Lakers, they have a much easier time climbing out of holes than other teams, and it seems like other teams (inexplicably) often want to help them, so I wouldn't be surprised to see the Lakers turn their season around. The NBA doesn't want a postseason without its golden boy.

What in the world are you talking about? The only free agent of note they have signed since Dwight Howard like ten years ago is Lebron who went there for non basketball reasons. They didn’t even make the playin last year. They massively
Overpaid for Davis bidding against themselves. People act like they are some boogeyman but they have one 1 Mickey Mouse title and a ton of lottery trips in the last 15 years.

Well there’s the 2 they won in 2008-2010.   That’s 3 championships in the last 14 years.  Historically they’ve always had access to top 3 players in the league - not always via free agency.  But top players have found their way there.  Not saying never through solid moves by their management but sometimes because top players pushed their way in. 

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1093 on: December 23, 2022, 06:10:52 PM »

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Lakers just announce that Anthony Davis will be out indefinitely..other words, for rest of season probably..stress fracture in foot takes long time to heal especially if u running up and down the court

Unfortunately for the Lakers, they are unable to trade LeBron due to the recent changes he made to his contract. This has resulted in a lost season for the team, which most around here will find enjoyable.

As much as I like seeing the Lakers struggle, I just read that their somewhat-better play of late has their GM thinking about making big moves (such as trading for Zach Lavine) to try to keep things heading in the right direction. I'm hoping, of course, that doesn't happen, but because they're the Lakers, they have a much easier time climbing out of holes than other teams, and it seems like other teams (inexplicably) often want to help them, so I wouldn't be surprised to see the Lakers turn their season around. The NBA doesn't want a postseason without its golden boy.

What in the world are you talking about? The only free agent of note they have signed since Dwight Howard like ten years ago is Lebron who went there for non basketball reasons. They didn’t even make the playin last year. They massively
Overpaid for Davis bidding against themselves. People act like they are some boogeyman but they have one 1 Mickey Mouse title and a ton of lottery trips in the last 15 years.

Well there’s the 2 they won in 2008-2010.   That’s 3 championships in the last 14 years.  Historically they’ve always had access to top 3 players in the league - not always via free agency.  But top players have found their way there.  Not saying never through solid moves by their management but sometimes because top players pushed their way in.

They haven’t worked out but we have signed much more all star free agents than them in the last 10 years. Hayward, Horford and Kemba versus Lebron (who again went for non basketball reasons as his lackey windhorst has announced.)

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1094 on: December 23, 2022, 10:54:16 PM »

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Lakers just announce that Anthony Davis will be out indefinitely..other words, for rest of season probably..stress fracture in foot takes long time to heal especially if u running up and down the court

Unfortunately for the Lakers, they are unable to trade LeBron due to the recent changes he made to his contract. This has resulted in a lost season for the team, which most around here will find enjoyable.

As much as I like seeing the Lakers struggle, I just read that their somewhat-better play of late has their GM thinking about making big moves (such as trading for Zach Lavine) to try to keep things heading in the right direction. I'm hoping, of course, that doesn't happen, but because they're the Lakers, they have a much easier time climbing out of holes than other teams, and it seems like other teams (inexplicably) often want to help them, so I wouldn't be surprised to see the Lakers turn their season around. The NBA doesn't want a postseason without its golden boy.

What in the world are you talking about? The only free agent of note they have signed since Dwight Howard like ten years ago is Lebron who went there for non basketball reasons. They didn’t even make the playin last year. They massively
Overpaid for Davis bidding against themselves. People act like they are some boogeyman but they have one 1 Mickey Mouse title and a ton of lottery trips in the last 15 years.

Well there’s the 2 they won in 2008-2010.   That’s 3 championships in the last 14 years.  Historically they’ve always had access to top 3 players in the league - not always via free agency.  But top players have found their way there.  Not saying never through solid moves by their management but sometimes because top players pushed their way in.

They haven’t worked out but we have signed much more all star free agents than them in the last 10 years. Hayward, Horford and Kemba versus Lebron (who again went for non basketball reasons as his lackey windhorst has announced.)

Technically you are correct, but there is a gulf a mile long when you talk about signing Kemba, Horford, Hayward... than when you sign Shaq or Lebron..    Do you expect any of the current top 5 players to decide they want to play in Boston?  Will you be surprised if any of them decide they want to join LAL?