Draymond may get suspended

[Donoghus]

The Golden State Warriors failure to suspend Draymond Green after he punched teammate Jordan Poole will cost them the NBA championship due to the internal chaos it has caused, Jalen Rose says. “I’m saying when you choose not to suspend him…their dynamics of that relationship will never be the same,” Rose said Wednesday on “NBA Countdown.” “And so therefore how can we coexist?” He added: “The people that’s riding with Jordan Poole won’t forgive Draymond, and they also are going to be mad at the organization that they didn’t suspend him.”

I agree with this.  Not sure how big the impact will be or for how long, but I think it does affect the team.

They're a vet team with guys who have been there a long time.  I really don't think it'll make much on impact and certainly don't think it'll be the reason if they won't win the championship. Heck, its October.  We still have a full season to go.  This will be a distant memory.

[JohnBoy65]

The punch was bad. Seeing it, through video, was worse. However, I suspect there are so many instances of inappropriateness with Draymond that we don't even know about. That isn't to defend what he did or how the team handled this, but what if this entire organization is just so used to this type of behavior from Draymond?

[SHAQATTACK]

Saint Draymond 

[Moranis]

The Golden State Warriors failure to suspend Draymond Green after he punched teammate Jordan Poole will cost them the NBA championship due to the internal chaos it has caused, Jalen Rose says. “I’m saying when you choose not to suspend him…their dynamics of that relationship will never be the same,” Rose said Wednesday on “NBA Countdown.” “And so therefore how can we coexist?” He added: “The people that’s riding with Jordan Poole won’t forgive Draymond, and they also are going to be mad at the organization that they didn’t suspend him.”

I agree with this.  Not sure how big the impact will be or for how long, but I think it does affect the team.

They're a vet team with guys who have been there a long time.  I really don't think it'll make much on impact and certainly don't think it'll be the reason if they won't win the championship. Heck, its October.  We still have a full season to go.  This will be a distant memory.

Plus, unless I'm missing something, I don't think Rose has any idea how Poole actually feels.  While it is weird he hasn't said anything publicly, it is quite possible he and green have made up and even if they haven't maybe Poole is fine with how it was handled by the Warriors.

[celticsclay]

If the video showed Draymond calling Poole a name that everyone is sensitive about nowadays, everyone would be more up in arms than they are for the haymaker to the face.  It seems a little out of whack.

Poole called him triple single lol

[Surferdad]

The punch was bad. Seeing it, through video, was worse. However, I suspect there are so many instances of inappropriateness with Draymond that we don't even know about. That isn't to defend what he did or how the team handled this, but what if this entire organization is just so used to this type of behavior from Draymond?

Doubtful. Punching a guy who is not ready to defend himself is a punk move and cross the decency line. GSW should trade him, but they won't, and Jalen Rose is right that they just blew their chance to repeat as champs.

[Vermont Green]

The Golden State Warriors failure to suspend Draymond Green after he punched teammate Jordan Poole will cost them the NBA championship due to the internal chaos it has caused, Jalen Rose says. “I’m saying when you choose not to suspend him…their dynamics of that relationship will never be the same,” Rose said Wednesday on “NBA Countdown.” “And so therefore how can we coexist?” He added: “The people that’s riding with Jordan Poole won’t forgive Draymond, and they also are going to be mad at the organization that they didn’t suspend him.”

I agree with this.  Not sure how big the impact will be or for how long, but I think it does affect the team.

They're a vet team with guys who have been there a long time.  I really don't think it'll make much on impact and certainly don't think it'll be the reason if they won't win the championship. Heck, its October.  We still have a full season to go.  This will be a distant memory.

Plus, unless I'm missing something, I don't think Rose has any idea how Poole actually feels.  While it is weird he hasn't said anything publicly, it is quite possible he and green have made up and even if they haven't maybe Poole is fine with how it was handled by the Warriors.

Rose is just offering the perspective of a past player and someone who has continued to be around the league.  Rose doesn't "know" anything.  And it isn't just about how Poole feels.  It is how the whole team feels.  I would expect some lingering issues that will be felt by the team in a negative way.  Whether this lingering effect will make a difference on them winning the finals or not, I can't say.  Rose has his opinion.  Just adding it to the discussion.

[liam]

I thought Steve Kerr was against violence. I guess he is unless it's against one of his payers. Golden State is full of hypocrites. The Celtics suspended their head coach for a year and no violence was involved. The next time Kerr speaks out against violence I'll realize he's just flapping his gums.

[Kernewek]

I thought Steve Kerr was against violence. I guess he is unless it's against one of his payers. Golden State is full of hypocrites. The Celtics suspended their head coach for a year and no violence was involved. The next time Kerr speaks out against violence I'll realize he's just flapping his gums.

This is probably not the takeaway.

[liam]

I thought Steve Kerr was against violence. I guess he is unless it's against one of his payers. Golden State is full of hypocrites. The Celtics suspended their head coach for a year and no violence was involved. The next time Kerr speaks out against violence I'll realize he's just flapping his gums.

This is probably not the takeaway.

It's easy to talk about doing something about violence but it's another thing to do something when it affects you. Steve Kerr has given all sorts of tearful speeches against violence but when it comes to a situation where he can actually do something he does nothing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlxexKbtLr4

[Celtics2021]

I thought Steve Kerr was against violence. I guess he is unless it's against one of his payers. Golden State is full of hypocrites. The Celtics suspended their head coach for a year and no violence was involved. The next time Kerr speaks out against violence I'll realize he's just flapping his gums.

This is probably not the takeaway.

It's easy to talk about doing something about violence but it's another thing to do something when it affects you. Steve Kerr has given all sorts of tearful speeches against violence but when it comes to a situation where he can actually do something he does nothing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlxexKbtLr4

I think it’s possible for someone who a) has been around a lot of fights in 30+ years of pro basketball and b) experienced the murder of his father to view the two completely differently without having a shred of hypocrisy.

[gouki88]

I thought Steve Kerr was against violence. I guess he is unless it's against one of his payers. Golden State is full of hypocrites. The Celtics suspended their head coach for a year and no violence was involved. The next time Kerr speaks out against violence I'll realize he's just flapping his gums.

This is probably not the takeaway.

It's easy to talk about doing something about violence but it's another thing to do something when it affects you. Steve Kerr has given all sorts of tearful speeches against violence but when it comes to a situation where he can actually do something he does nothing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlxexKbtLr4

Apples and oranges. Or, perhaps more appropriately, apples and fire trucks

[liam]

I thought Steve Kerr was against violence. I guess he is unless it's against one of his payers. Golden State is full of hypocrites. The Celtics suspended their head coach for a year and no violence was involved. The next time Kerr speaks out against violence I'll realize he's just flapping his gums.

This is probably not the takeaway.

It's easy to talk about doing something about violence but it's another thing to do something when it affects you. Steve Kerr has given all sorts of tearful speeches against violence but when it comes to a situation where he can actually do something he does nothing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlxexKbtLr4

I think it’s possible for someone who a) has been around a lot of fights in 30+ years of pro basketball and b) experienced the murder of his father to view the two completely differently without having a shred of hypocrisy.

I guess someone punching someone in the face should have some consequences but not in Golden State... 

[Kernewek]

I thought Steve Kerr was against violence. I guess he is unless it's against one of his payers. Golden State is full of hypocrites. The Celtics suspended their head coach for a year and no violence was involved. The next time Kerr speaks out against violence I'll realize he's just flapping his gums.

This is probably not the takeaway.

It's easy to talk about doing something about violence but it's another thing to do something when it affects you. Steve Kerr has given all sorts of tearful speeches against violence but when it comes to a situation where he can actually do something he does nothing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlxexKbtLr4

I think it’s possible for someone who a) has been around a lot of fights in 30+ years of pro basketball and b) experienced the murder of his father to view the two completely differently without having a shred of hypocrisy.

I guess someone punching someone in the face should have some consequences but not in Golden State...

Sure but maybe you can see how that’s a bit of a different take than what you said earlier?

[nickagneta]

I thought Steve Kerr was against violence. I guess he is unless it's against one of his payers. Golden State is full of hypocrites. The Celtics suspended their head coach for a year and no violence was involved. The next time Kerr speaks out against violence I'll realize he's just flapping his gums.

This is probably not the takeaway.

It's easy to talk about doing something about violence but it's another thing to do something when it affects you. Steve Kerr has given all sorts of tearful speeches against violence but when it comes to a situation where he can actually do something he does nothing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlxexKbtLr4

I think it’s possible for someone who a) has been around a lot of fights in 30+ years of pro basketball and b) experienced the murder of his father to view the two completely differently without having a shred of hypocrisy.

Yes....and no.

Kerr saw violence end a life.

If Green's violence was better aimed, he could have ended Poole's life.

Kerr appears to have a difference of opinion based on the end result of the violence. But, violence is violence and so, there is some hypocrisy in his stance. Violence should be punished.

But since, end results do matter, it's understandable he has that difference of opinion on both situations.