Udoka Facing Suspension/Udoka to Nets??

[CelticSooner]

But real talk...shouldn't we C's fans be all the more concerned about all this? Did PBS or Wyc overreacted on this and gave him that year-long suspension, only to have the Nets pick him up 6 games into the season without any compensation? The same Udoka who righted the C's ship after January 1 enroute to their first NBA Finals appearance in 12 years? Why flex that macho about that one-year suspension when someone, esp a division rival team can just pick him up a few games into the season? I think the C's owe us an explanation to the whole Ime ordeal.

On paper, the Nets look talented but if they get their players to buy into Udoka for the next 75-76 games, the C's may possibly have a big problem in the postseason if they draw Brooklyn.

It will be interesting to see Kyrie try playing defense under Udoka.

Nets have bigger problems than a head coach. I don’t really care where he goes if he undermined the organization.

[nickagneta]

Interesting, Jaylen reposted Woj's Instagram post about the Nets hiring with no commentary. Seems like there's still support in the locker room for him and as of media day, players were still really in the dark about what exactly happened.

This could be bad for the team. I get that the C's want off of his contract, but this all feels like a hot mess and bad decision making all around.

Funnily enough, there's a popular rumor going around that Brown and Ime were actually not on good terms and Brown was the one who approached leadership about this issue with the mistress leading to Ime's suspension. Additionally, the rumor goes that Brown felt he was being pushed out for KD by Ime given their past relationship, which seems probably legit knowing the history there. Thus, this post was a shot at Ime, KD, and the Nets rather than a show of support for Ime.

Not sure how much stock to put into this rumor, but there are parts of it that make sense to me.

So where did you hear about this rumor. Never heard of it.

[RJ87]

Interesting, Jaylen reposted Woj's Instagram post about the Nets hiring with no commentary. Seems like there's still support in the locker room for him and as of media day, players were still really in the dark about what exactly happened.

This could be bad for the team. I get that the C's want off of his contract, but this all feels like a hot mess and bad decision making all around.

Funnily enough, there's a popular rumor going around that Brown and Ime were actually not on good terms and Brown was the one who approached leadership about this issue with the mistress leading to Ime's suspension. Additionally, the rumor goes that Brown felt he was being pushed out for KD by Ime given their past relationship, which seems probably legit knowing the history there. Thus, this post was a shot at Ime, KD, and the Nets rather than a show of support for Ime.

Not sure how much stock to put into this rumor, but there are parts of it that make sense to me.

So where did you hear about this rumor. Never heard of it.

I've heard similar rumors about it being a player who approached management to out the "relationship" and from what I've heard, it wasn't out of benevolence. This is the first time I've seen Jaylen's name attached in this sense, though.

[cman88]

All will come out once he's with the nets. You don't hire a law firm and suspend your coach for a year over a consensual relationship. There is more that happened here that the Celtics don't want to release.

[Vermont Green]

I am still not sure how real any of this Udoka to the Nets talk really is.  I am not surprised that the Nets would explore this, I would be surprised if the Celtics just handed him over without compensation.  I do expect that Udoka will be an NBA coach again at some point,  but I figured it would be next season.

The Celtics can't just suspend him forever.  The suspension is one year.  I don't think Udoka is contesting that.  But for that year, he is fully under contract with the Celtics.  At the end of the year, the Celtics would have to either put him back to work or "fire" him.  Firing means releasing him from the contract I guess and at that point, Udoka could go where ever he wanted.  He would be a free agent.

If the Celtics have no plans to put him back to work ever, then firing him now or later makes little difference to the Celtics.  If they fire him, Udoka can go to any team, he could choose to talk to the Nets or any other team.  If the Celtics are going to grant just the Nets permission to talk to Udoka, during the period of the suspension, that is different.  And that should come with some compensation.

I feel that Udoka to the Nets makes the Nets better.  Maybe not enough better to matter but it would be a really bad look for the Celtics if they give Udoka to the Nets and then the Nets beat us in the playoffs or something like that.  Why would the Celtics even take that chance, at least without some compensation?

[ozgod]

I’m not too worried. I moved past Ime long ago. Good luck to Ime if he gets the job, and good luck to the Nets dealing with any fallout. Clearly they feel they are in a desperate situation and are prepared to deal with the ramifications.

We all know that the desire for sporting success can outweigh moral or other considerations, look at the Browns signing DeShaun Watson or numerous teams (including the Patriots) signing Antonio Brown. If they think their team culture won’t be affected good luck to them. Maybe they will sign Miles Bridges and Josh Primo next   

For us, I dont think it affects us that much. I don’t think we were ever going to realistically re-sign Ime next year, so this just takes that cloud away from Joe Mazz, hopefully they take that interim title away from him too and make his appointment permanent.

As for Imes effect on the Nets team, we’ll see what happens. They will probably get better, but how much better remains to be seen. He did work with them so there should be some familiarity.

[Moranis]

I don't think Ime is going to work with those personalities.  So have at him Nets.  Just continue to affirm you are the most dysfunctional team in all of sport.

[Roy H.]

I don't think Ime is going to work with those personalities.  So have at him Nets.  Just continue to affirm you are the most dysfunctional team in all of sport.

One thing that may help him is that he was an assistant with those same players, right?  He's worked with all of Kyrie and Durant and Simmons, I think.

But, it's still an upward struggle.

[Moranis]

I don't think Ime is going to work with those personalities.  So have at him Nets.  Just continue to affirm you are the most dysfunctional team in all of sport.

One thing that may help him is that he was an assistant with those same players, right?  He's worked with all of Kyrie and Durant and Simmons, I think.

But, it's still an upward struggle.

I just don't think his style of coaching is going to work with that team.  Of those 3, I actually think Simmons would be the most receptive to it.  I just don't see Durant or Irving being good with a hot head disciplinarian. 

[Vermont Green]

I don't think Ime is going to work with those personalities.  So have at him Nets.  Just continue to affirm you are the most dysfunctional team in all of sport.

One thing that may help him is that he was an assistant with those same players, right?  He's worked with all of Kyrie and Durant and Simmons, I think.

But, it's still an upward struggle.

I just don't think his style of coaching is going to work with that team.  Of those 3, I actually think Simmons would be the most receptive to it.  I just don't see Durant or Irving being good with a hot head disciplinarian.

I agree that the current Nets are about as difficult to coach as any group.  Harder even than trying to coach the Lakers.  But a new coach gets a grace period from the players.  Udoka would make them better in my opinion.  I don't think Nash was the problem, all the problems are still there, but Udoka is still a good coach.  Not sure "hot head disciplinarian" is a fair description.  I think Udoka would get more out of the Nets, at least in the short term, than Nash.  Can't think of any coach that might be better for the Nets right now.  Udoka probably has a better chance of getting though to them than anyone.  It is going to be hard for any coach.

[No Nickname]

I don't think Ime is going to work with those personalities.  So have at him Nets.  Just continue to affirm you are the most dysfunctional team in all of sport.

One thing that may help him is that he was an assistant with those same players, right?  He's worked with all of Kyrie and Durant and Simmons, I think.

But, it's still an upward struggle.

And with all the mess surrounding Kyrie, KD, and Nash quitting, the narrative is all about them right now.

It's almost like the media is sweeping Ime's transgressions under the rug. 

If Ime went to say, the Wizards, the whole talk would be "Can the players respect a coach who supposedly engaged in such untoward behavior in the past?"

So this seems like the perfect situation for Ime to resume his career (quickly) and "move forward as a person" blah, blah, blah.

[nickagneta]

I have to wonder if Marks went to Durant, Kyrie and Simmons and got their stamp of approval on Udoka. If you are moving up from/firing Nash, and know a successful coach like Udoka is available, though with obvious baggage, and that Udoka has experience with your three stars, it makes sense to at least have a conversation with those stars to ascertain if they would be receptive to Udoka and his style of coaching.

That doesn't mean long term that the Udoka relationship with the three stars will work, but at least short term, like the rest of this season, I think it would.

[kraidstar]

Interesting, Jaylen reposted Woj's Instagram post about the Nets hiring with no commentary. Seems like there's still support in the locker room for him and as of media day, players were still really in the dark about what exactly happened.

This could be bad for the team. I get that the C's want off of his contract, but this all feels like a hot mess and bad decision making all around.

Funnily enough, there's a popular rumor going around that Brown and Ime were actually not on good terms and Brown was the one who approached leadership about this issue with the mistress leading to Ime's suspension. Additionally, the rumor goes that Brown felt he was being pushed out for KD by Ime given their past relationship, which seems probably legit knowing the history there. Thus, this post was a shot at Ime, KD, and the Nets rather than a show of support for Ime.

Not sure how much stock to put into this rumor, but there are parts of it that make sense to me.

So where did you hear about this rumor. Never heard of it.

I
The nerdy guy with glasses (his name escapes me at the moment) on NBC Sports Boston seemed to be hinting at that last night.

[Donoghus]

Interesting, Jaylen reposted Woj's Instagram post about the Nets hiring with no commentary. Seems like there's still support in the locker room for him and as of media day, players were still really in the dark about what exactly happened.

This could be bad for the team. I get that the C's want off of his contract, but this all feels like a hot mess and bad decision making all around.

Funnily enough, there's a popular rumor going around that Brown and Ime were actually not on good terms and Brown was the one who approached leadership about this issue with the mistress leading to Ime's suspension. Additionally, the rumor goes that Brown felt he was being pushed out for KD by Ime given their past relationship, which seems probably legit knowing the history there. Thus, this post was a shot at Ime, KD, and the Nets rather than a show of support for Ime.

Not sure how much stock to put into this rumor, but there are parts of it that make sense to me.

So where did you hear about this rumor. Never heard of it.

I
The nerdy guy with glasses (his name escapes me at the moment) on NBC Sports Boston seemed to be hinting at that last night.

Chris Forsberg.

[Vermont Green]

Nets star forward Kevin Durant said he was “shocked” when he learned of Steve Nash’s exit as Brooklyn’s coach Tuesday, a decision that was announced by the organization as mutual. “You’re always shocked when a move like this happens,” Durant said after a 108-99 loss to the Chicago Bulls on Tuesday night. “But it’s normal in the NBA. It’s about getting ready for the game tonight. It’s a quick turn always in the league, especially during the season. You’ve got practice, games coming up, so you can’t think too much about it. It was on my mind for a little bit today.”

Durant developed a solid relationship with Nash during their time with the Golden State Warriors, when Nash served as a player development consultant. He was asked why he thought it didn’t work out for Nash in Brooklyn. “A lot of stuff,” Durant said. “We didn’t have a healthy team. We just didn’t play well. And that’s what happens in the league. S— happens. That doesn’t take away from Steve’s basketball IQ, how he teaches the game. I don’t think that takes away from anything. It just didn’t work out.”

Reminiscent of the famous line in Casa Blanca movie.  I'm shocked to find out there is gambling going on here.