Gallinari has a torn ACL per Shams

[Silas]

Never mind, my mistake.

[Silas]

The Celtics were reportedly really high on Hauser even before the Gallinari signing. I have no worries about his shooting, he's an elite shooter and can adequately replace Gallo in that sense. The concern has been about Hauser's defense, but realistically, what kind of defense were we expecting from Gallo at 34 years old when he's never been a great defender to begin with?

Am I the only one that doesn’t see Hauser as an NBA-caliber player?  I just don’t get it.  It’s not even just his defense.  He doesn’t appear to have any offensive game other than a spot-up jump shot.  He can’t seem to create for himself or others.  I just don’t see how he’s going to be able to help the team in any meaningful way

Maybe.  I think he has potential and we shall see this season.  Make or break!

[Goldstar88]

The Celtics were reportedly really high on Hauser even before the Gallinari signing. I have no worries about his shooting, he's an elite shooter and can adequately replace Gallo in that sense. The concern has been about Hauser's defense, but realistically, what kind of defense were we expecting from Gallo at 34 years old when he's never been a great defender to begin with?

Am I the only one that doesn’t see Hauser as an NBA-caliber player?  I just don’t get it.  It’s not even just his defense.  He doesn’t appear to have any offensive game other than a spot-up jump shot.  He can’t seem to create for himself or others.  I just don’t see how he’s going to be able to help the team in any meaningful way

You are not the only one. I don’t think he’s good enough to take up a roster spot. Have no idea why they gave him guaranteed money.

[nickagneta]

Hauser's good enough at a highly prized skill and has amazing size to use that skill that makes him getting a #14 or #15 spot on the roster at minimum money a no-brainer. Expecting him to produce like a #9 or #10 guy on the depth chart is the problem.

Once again, much like has been the case since the 2018 great team depth team who's depth probably imploded the team, this team is giving a ton of roster spots to people that can not be relied upon to be rotational depth. Maybe that changes before the season starts but going into the season with Hauser, Caboclo, Kornet, Davison, and Kabengale being your #10-#14 guys in the rotation after Gallo going down is not a good thing. Why this franchise continues to do this every season is beyond me. 

[JSD]

Hauser's good enough at a highly prized skill and has amazing size to use that skill that makes him getting a #14 or #15 spot on the roster at minimum money a no-brainer. Expecting him to produce like a #9 or #10 guy on the depth chart is the problem.

Once again, much like has been the case since the 2018 great team depth team who's depth probably imploded the team, this team is giving a ton of roster spots to people that can not be relied upon to be rotational depth. Maybe that changes before the season starts but going into the season with Hauser, Caboclo, Kornet, Davison, and Kabengale being your #10-#14 guys in the rotation after Gallo going down is not a good thing. Why this franchise continues to do this every season is beyond me.

Ownership is cheap, that is why.

[boscel33]

Hauser's good enough at a highly prized skill and has amazing size to use that skill that makes him getting a #14 or #15 spot on the roster at minimum money a no-brainer. Expecting him to produce like a #9 or #10 guy on the depth chart is the problem.

Once again, much like has been the case since the 2018 great team depth team who's depth probably imploded the team, this team is giving a ton of roster spots to people that can not be relied upon to be rotational depth. Maybe that changes before the season starts but going into the season with Hauser, Caboclo, Kornet, Davison, and Kabengale being your #10-#14 guys in the rotation after Gallo going down is not a good thing. Why this franchise continues to do this every season is beyond me.

Ownership is cheap, that is why.

Not to try and hijack the thread, but how have the C's and Sox suddenly become the cheap ownership teams and the B's are willing to spend, although not properly, but they spend?

[Kernewek]

Hauser's good enough at a highly prized skill and has amazing size to use that skill that makes him getting a #14 or #15 spot on the roster at minimum money a no-brainer. Expecting him to produce like a #9 or #10 guy on the depth chart is the problem.

Once again, much like has been the case since the 2018 great team depth team who's depth probably imploded the team, this team is giving a ton of roster spots to people that can not be relied upon to be rotational depth. Maybe that changes before the season starts but going into the season with Hauser, Caboclo, Kornet, Davison, and Kabengale being your #10-#14 guys in the rotation after Gallo going down is not a good thing. Why this franchise continues to do this every season is beyond me.

Ownership is cheap, that is why.

Not to try and hijack the thread, but how have the C's and Sox suddenly become the cheap ownership teams and the B's are willing to spend, although not properly, but they spend?

Baseball is suffering from deep rot when it comes to ownership and spending - it's actually kind of sad to see, but it's not just a Sox problem.

The C's being cheap: I think in the NBA cheap comes in layers. Wyc and co. certainly aren't the Maloofs, but they do seem to be operating with some fiscal constraints that feel fairly arbitrary.

[Moranis]

I recall one of the arguments people had on here against using the big TPE was the salary with tax implications.  I was one of the people making the argument that using the TPE wasn't like adding a 50 million dollar player because salary could always be reduced later in the year.  Well now we have a 7 million dollar salary that isn't going to be used, that could be dumped off to reduce that tax bill that would have been increased with the TPE.  If you truly want to compete for championships you can't just waste assets for the sole reason of being cheap, because you never know what the future may hold.

[Roy H.]

I recall one of the arguments people had on here against using the big TPE was the salary with tax implications.  I was one of the people making the argument that using the TPE wasn't like adding a 50 million dollar player because salary could always be reduced later in the year.  Well now we have a 7 million dollar salary that isn't going to be used, that could be dumped off to reduce that tax bill that would have been increased with the TPE.  If you truly want to compete for championships you can't just waste assets for the sole reason of being cheap, because you never know what the future may hold.

Luckily, there's still some flexibility.  If Brad uses one of the mid-range TPEs by December, we can package that player together with Gallanari and whatever scrubs we have on the roster to bring in somebody in the $15 million to $20 million range at the deadline.

So, let's say we trade for Gay now, giving up a top-55 protected #2 and some cash.

By the time the deadline comes around, we can combine Gallo + Gay + Kornet.  That's $14,796,778 in salary.  That means we can bring back a player making up to $18,595,972.

That's enough for my binkie, Harris Barnes (you'd have to add a #1, at least.)  Add another $2 million in
scrub salary, and you could acquire someone making $21,095,972.

So, not all hope is lost.  It's actually a relatively easy two-step process to create a sizeable amount of outgoing salary.  (And hell, if you want to dream big, we could trade for a second guy making around $5 million.  Package TPE 1 + TPE 2 + Gallo + Kornet + Scrub, and you can bring back $27,245,972, more than enough for a guy like John Collins, or anybody outside the top-50 range in salary.)

But ultimately, I think you're right:  ownership doesn't want to pay the cost.

[Kernewek]

It's interesting, because it really feels like there's no move that Stevens (short of a steal that would make Ainge jealous) can make that could convince ownership that this is the move worth going into the luxury tax for, even if it's the difference between a ring and not. Surely the championship merch and (jersey sponsor price gouging) makes up for the luxury tax hit?


As an aside, who could have predicted that Harrison Barnes of all people would eventually prove that Kevin Durant wasn't that important to Golden State winning a championship?

[Moranis]

I recall one of the arguments people had on here against using the big TPE was the salary with tax implications.  I was one of the people making the argument that using the TPE wasn't like adding a 50 million dollar player because salary could always be reduced later in the year.  Well now we have a 7 million dollar salary that isn't going to be used, that could be dumped off to reduce that tax bill that would have been increased with the TPE.  If you truly want to compete for championships you can't just waste assets for the sole reason of being cheap, because you never know what the future may hold.

Luckily, there's still some flexibility.  If Brad uses one of the mid-range TPEs by December, we can package that player together with Gallanari and whatever scrubs we have on the roster to bring in somebody in the $15 million to $20 million range at the deadline.

So, let's say we trade for Gay now, giving up a top-55 protected #2 and some cash.

By the time the deadline comes around, we can combine Gallo + Gay + Kornet.  That's $14,796,778 in salary.  That means we can bring back a player making up to $18,595,972.

That's enough for my binkie, Harris Barnes (you'd have to add a #1, at least.)  Add another $2 million in
scrub salary, and you could acquire someone making $21,095,972.

So, not all hope is lost.  It's actually a relatively easy two-step process to create a sizeable amount of outgoing salary.  (And hell, if you want to dream big, we could trade for a second guy making around $5 million.  Package TPE 1 + TPE 2 + Gallo + Kornet + Scrub, and you can bring back $27,245,972, more than enough for a guy like John Collins, or anybody outside the top-50 range in salary.)

But ultimately, I think you're right:  ownership doesn't want to pay the cost.

All true, but if we had Robinson or Fournier on the roster (or Richardson), you could combine them with Gallo and get a near max level contract.  Or if Robinson or Fournier really hits, then you could potentially use White and Gallo and bring back someone.  Or you could just dump Gallo and save money.  Or we could have gone the multiple player route like Crowder and Craig and not feel quite the crunch that 1 injury brings. 

The simple reality is, Boston's management hasn't been acting like a team that thinks it is a true contender this year, otherwise it would have done a lot of things differently and certainly wouldn't have floated Brown's name in a trade for Durant.

[Roy H.]

I recall one of the arguments people had on here against using the big TPE was the salary with tax implications.  I was one of the people making the argument that using the TPE wasn't like adding a 50 million dollar player because salary could always be reduced later in the year.  Well now we have a 7 million dollar salary that isn't going to be used, that could be dumped off to reduce that tax bill that would have been increased with the TPE.  If you truly want to compete for championships you can't just waste assets for the sole reason of being cheap, because you never know what the future may hold.

Luckily, there's still some flexibility.  If Brad uses one of the mid-range TPEs by December, we can package that player together with Gallanari and whatever scrubs we have on the roster to bring in somebody in the $15 million to $20 million range at the deadline.

So, let's say we trade for Gay now, giving up a top-55 protected #2 and some cash.

By the time the deadline comes around, we can combine Gallo + Gay + Kornet.  That's $14,796,778 in salary.  That means we can bring back a player making up to $18,595,972.

That's enough for my binkie, Harris Barnes (you'd have to add a #1, at least.)  Add another $2 million in
scrub salary, and you could acquire someone making $21,095,972.

So, not all hope is lost.  It's actually a relatively easy two-step process to create a sizeable amount of outgoing salary.  (And hell, if you want to dream big, we could trade for a second guy making around $5 million.  Package TPE 1 + TPE 2 + Gallo + Kornet + Scrub, and you can bring back $27,245,972, more than enough for a guy like John Collins, or anybody outside the top-50 range in salary.)

But ultimately, I think you're right:  ownership doesn't want to pay the cost.

All true, but if we had Robinson or Fournier on the roster (or Richardson), you could combine them with Gallo and get a near max level contract.  Or if Robinson or Fournier really hits, then you could potentially use White and Gallo and bring back someone.  Or you could just dump Gallo and save money.  Or we could have gone the multiple player route like Crowder and Craig and not feel quite the crunch that 1 injury brings. 

The simple reality is, Boston's management hasn't been acting like a team that thinks it is a true contender this year, otherwise it would have done a lot of things differently and certainly wouldn't have floated Brown's name in a trade for Durant.

Well, I’ll agree that the Warriors, Lakers, Clippers or Nets wouldn’t blow assets in their first year on the clock as a tax team.

I would have been okay with the following off-season:

Trade for Brogdon (A+ move)
Sign Gallo
Sign a real center
Sign a real wing
Sign one more vet

But, that’s a good off-season only with perfect health.  And, unfortunately, due to not appreciating veterans and bad luck,  we’re down to:

Trade for Brogdon (A+ move)
Sign Gallo
Sign a real center
Sign a real wing
Sign one more vet

To me, that’s a positive off-season, but not a championship caliber one.  That said, there’s still time to end the dumpster diving and to add real depth to the team, while preserving assets to make a large impact trade.

[GreenBoomer]

Looks like they're not spending much more if any. Hauser takes Gallo's minutes.  Still missing a rotation big unless they plan on Kabengele or Kornet contributing. Looks like they are.

I wouldn’t say it looks like anything.  They haven’t signed anyone or made a trade in the 3 days since the news that Gallinari tore his ACL.  I’ll be very surprised if they go into the season without making a roster move to replace DG and add big depth.

They'll add another piece or two, I agree. Minimum deals probably. Nothing close to what they could have had with the 17.1 exception. Instead of being clear cut favorites, ownership opened the door for Brooklyn, Milwaukee, and Phily.

[boscel33]

Looks like they're not spending much more if any. Hauser takes Gallo's minutes.  Still missing a rotation big unless they plan on Kabengele or Kornet contributing. Looks like they are.

I wouldn’t say it looks like anything.  They haven’t signed anyone or made a trade in the 3 days since the news that Gallinari tore his ACL.  I’ll be very surprised if they go into the season without making a roster move to replace DG and add big depth.

They'll add another piece or two, I agree. Minimum deals probably. Nothing close to what they could have had with the 17.1 exception. Instead of being clear cut favorites, ownership opened the door for Brooklyn, Milwaukee, and Phily.

And now Cleveland....

[tonydelk]

Looks like they're not spending much more if any. Hauser takes Gallo's minutes.  Still missing a rotation big unless they plan on Kabengele or Kornet contributing. Looks like they are.

I wouldn’t say it looks like anything.  They haven’t signed anyone or made a trade in the 3 days since the news that Gallinari tore his ACL.  I’ll be very surprised if they go into the season without making a roster move to replace DG and add big depth.

They'll add another piece or two, I agree. Minimum deals probably. Nothing close to what they could have had with the 17.1 exception. Instead of being clear cut favorites, ownership opened the door for Brooklyn, Milwaukee, and Phily.

And now Cleveland....

Yeah if the C's are truly going to contend they need another piece.  The options are a vet minimum which seems like the most likely route.  Does anyone know if the salary that is used from the DPA goes towards the salary cap or is does it not count in the total.  If that's the case then that's what the team is waiting for.

I think we may see a move shakeout in the season with our guard depth for a big.  We also still needs to see what happens with Grant.  If it was taking a similar contract to Rob I'd assume a deal would be done by now.  Since it's not I can see Grant over valuing his salary and wanting a lot more.