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Re: Patriots 2022 Season
« Reply #495 on: October 09, 2022, 03:33:51 PM »

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Hasn't been completely pretty but the defense has definitely come to play today. Huge plays and stops when needed.

I want the patriots haters to shut up for the day. We are up 19-0. With a third string qb. Let us enjoy it.

No no Clay, we're only up 26-0. We need to be up 46-0 dang it!  ;)

Phantom I am beyond tired of some of the drivel about the patriots in this thread. We are 15 yards overtime away from being 3-2 and we got trolls saying we will win 4 games of our next 12 with two against the jets, and play Cleveland, bears, arizona, bengals, Vikings

Yeah I don't blame you. I'm fine with everyone voicing their opinions and I get we can be reactionary at times depending on circumstances and rooting interests, but still I don't think the Pats are as bad as people think.

Again, that's my own opinion and I'm definitely not saying they are an elite team. But they also aren't far off from potentially being 3-1 instead of 1-3 currently. Baltimore and Green Bay were tough opponents and we played one of those games without our starting QB.

Kind of reminds me of last year actually. Started off 1-3, then became 2-4 after a tough loss to Dallas but then in a soft part of our schedule got a little hot and it helped us reach the postseason. We might see a repeat this season. Started 1-3 including a tough loss to Green Bay where we had chances to win. Now the next 6 games are against mostly mediocre teams. If they can go 5-1 in the next 6 (including today's game) they are absolutely in the postseason hunt still.

Idk if people notice but the AFC has gotten off to a weird start this season. KC and BUF are obviously Tier 1 but after that, can anyone definitively say who the next 4-5 best teams in the AFC are? Probably not. Maybe Baltimore, sure,  but after that it's still TBD IMO
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Re: Patriots 2022 Season
« Reply #496 on: October 09, 2022, 03:39:30 PM »

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Detroit had the best offense in the game before today. D has dominated, though not going for 4 FGs because of a lack of a kicker might have something to do with the shutout

Re: Patriots 2022 Season
« Reply #497 on: October 09, 2022, 03:41:31 PM »

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Hasn't been completely pretty but the defense has definitely come to play today. Huge plays and stops when needed.

I want the patriots haters to shut up for the day. We are up 19-0. With a third string qb. Let us enjoy it.

No no Clay, we're only up 26-0. We need to be up 46-0 dang it!  ;)

Phantom I am beyond tired of some of the drivel about the patriots in this thread. We are 15 yards overtime away from being 3-2 and we got trolls saying we will win 4 games of our next 12 with two against the jets, and play Cleveland, bears, arizona, bengals, Vikings

Yeah I don't blame you. I'm fine with everyone voicing their opinions and I get we can be reactionary at times depending on circumstances and rooting interests, but still I don't think the Pats are as bad as people think.

Again, that's my own opinion and I'm definitely not saying they are an elite team. But they also aren't far off from potentially being 3-1 instead of 1-3 currently. Baltimore and Green Bay were tough opponents and we played one of those games without our starting QB.

Kind of reminds me of last year actually. Started off 1-3, then became 2-4 after a tough loss to Dallas but then in a soft part of our schedule got a little hot and it helped us reach the postseason. We might see a repeat this season. Started 1-3 including a tough loss to Green Bay where we had chances to win. Now the next 6 games are against mostly mediocre teams. If they can go 5-1 in the next 6 (including today's game) they are absolutely in the postseason hunt still.

Idk if people notice but the AFC has gotten off to a weird start this season. KC and BUF are obviously Tier 1 but after that, can anyone definitively say who the next 4-5 best teams in the AFC are? Probably not. Maybe Baltimore, sure,  but after that it's still TBD IMO

I don’t blame people for voicing their opinions when they post in good faith. I don’t believe some of the posts in this thread have been in good faith and rather just to agitate patriots fans.

Re: Patriots 2022 Season
« Reply #498 on: October 09, 2022, 03:43:14 PM »

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Defense is playing its ass off.  Offense... is treading water.  Zappe is hitting his targets and his INT wasn't his fault, but it's clear we're taking no chances with him.  Stevenson and Meyers are playing well.  I expect more out of the rest of this WR core.

I actually don't mind at all. As we're seeing, to beat Detroit we probably don't need some elite QB performance. Even if it were Mac Jones or hell, even a Tom Brady in the past, they'd probably only need around 200 yards and no turnovers to get a win. Zappe has 1 INT unfortunately (not his fault), but he's probably going to get 200 yards passing unless they just run it all the 2nd half. Play it safe, don't get stupid.

People forget, even in the Brady dynasty years during the regular season there was always around 4-5 games where Brady would be "meh/average" and didn't do too much, but they didn't need to to beat bad teams like the Jets, etc. Just don't give up multiple turnovers or make brutal mistakes
Even more so before the 2007 season when Brady was pretty exclusively a game managing type QB.
Why do Patriots fans regurgitate this false narrative that Brady haters came up with? No, Brady wasn't just a game manager. He led the league in TDs in his second year, and was consistently in the top 5-10 for TDs every year before 2007.
Were you watching the games back then or are you just regurgitating stats?

Brady wasn't given complete control of the offense through those first Super Bowl years. Belichick put a huge emphasis on the running game and defense and called safe passing plays for Brady for the most part. Brady was there to not make mistakes.....not to dominate the game. That's pretty much the definition of a game manager.
Yes, but game manager sort of implies not good enough so you have to play that safe conservative style.  Trent Dilfer's Super Bowl run with the Ravens is a pretty classic game manager type situation.  Brady, though, was absolute money in the clutch.  Patriots needed a game winning drive, Brady would deliver time and time again.  He always had elite skill, the team just didn't play in a way to maximize it because they did not need to play more aggressively to win.  Once that dominate defense aged out, the talent on defense wasn't AS good, so they played more aggressively on offense and that is when Brady shed the game manager moniker, but Brady was never really a game manager in the classic sense of the definition.  The Patriots were conservative, but not because Brady wasn't good enough, but just because that is who Bill is at heart. 

As an example, the very first Super Bowl run.

Divisional Round - Pats down 3 with just over 2 minutes left.  Brady leads them on game tying FG drive.  2 for 4, 20 yards, 2 runs 6 yards.  Then in OT, Brady does not miss pass going 8 for 8 for 45 yards, also adding 2 yards rushing (Smith had some rushing yards)

AFC Championship - Brady goes out just before halftime with a 7-3 lead (they scored a TD on the drive he got hurt and went up 14-3)

Super Bowl - Brady comes back for the game and leads the Patriots on the game winning drive, in which Vinatieri hits the FG as time expires.  In that drive, which started with 1 minute 37 seconds left and 0 timeouts, Brady goes 5 of 8 (but the 3 misses were all spikes I believe) for 57 yards.  Absolute precision.  That is not a game manager.  That is guy that has always delivered in the clutch and the big moments.
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Re: Patriots 2022 Season
« Reply #499 on: October 09, 2022, 03:43:32 PM »

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Hasn't been completely pretty but the defense has definitely come to play today. Huge plays and stops when needed.

I want the patriots haters to shut up for the day. We are up 19-0. With a third string qb. Let us enjoy it.

No no Clay, we're only up 26-0. We need to be up 46-0 dang it!  ;)

Phantom I am beyond tired of some of the drivel about the patriots in this thread. We are 15 yards overtime away from being 3-2 and we got trolls saying we will win 4 games of our next 12 with two against the jets, and play Cleveland, bears, arizona, bengals, Vikings

Yeah I don't blame you. I'm fine with everyone voicing their opinions and I get we can be reactionary at times depending on circumstances and rooting interests, but still I don't think the Pats are as bad as people think.

Again, that's my own opinion and I'm definitely not saying they are an elite team. But they also aren't far off from potentially being 3-1 instead of 1-3 currently. Baltimore and Green Bay were tough opponents and we played one of those games without our starting QB.

Kind of reminds me of last year actually. Started off 1-3, then became 2-4 after a tough loss to Dallas but then in a soft part of our schedule got a little hot and it helped us reach the postseason. We might see a repeat this season. Started 1-3 including a tough loss to Green Bay where we had chances to win. Now the next 6 games are against mostly mediocre teams. If they can go 5-1 in the next 6 (including today's game) they are absolutely in the postseason hunt still.

Idk if people notice but the AFC has gotten off to a weird start this season. KC and BUF are obviously Tier 1 but after that, can anyone definitively say who the next 4-5 best teams in the AFC are? Probably not. Maybe Baltimore, sure,  but after that it's still TBD IMO

I don’t blame people for voicing their opinions when they post in good faith. I don’t believe some of the posts in this thread have been in good faith and rather just to agitate patriots fans.

Yeah honestly some of those posts I feel could easily just go on the NFL season thread lol
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Re: Patriots 2022 Season
« Reply #500 on: October 09, 2022, 03:47:41 PM »

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Gotta think that Patricia/Belichick conversation started with Belichick saying:

"Matt, what the _____ is wrong with you? We have one _______ healthy QB and you're calling a _______QB keeper run play in a game that's completely _______ over!?!?!?!?! Do something that _______ stupid again and you're _______ outta here!!!!!!"

Re: Patriots 2022 Season
« Reply #501 on: October 09, 2022, 03:50:25 PM »

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Detroit had the best offense in the game before today. D has dominated, though not going for 4 FGs because of a lack of a kicker might have something to do with the shutout
Yeah, all those turnover on downs in FG range, look weird, but they wouldn't have altered the outcome or take away from the superb defensive performance.  I'd expect the Patriots lose to Cleveland next week, but they should beat the Bears at home and Jets in NY.  Two more winnable games with the Colts and Jets at home, but after that, is when the schedule becomes very difficult.  If the Pats are going to do anything this year, they need to 4-1 over the next 5, I don't think they will, but they have to get to 6 wins before their last 7 if they have any shot at making the playoffs. 
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Re: Patriots 2022 Season
« Reply #502 on: October 09, 2022, 03:51:42 PM »

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Defense was really sharp today. Zappe played well enough and Stevenson was a beast. Really favorable schedule coming up with Cle, Chi, NYJ, Ind, and then the Jets again.
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Re: Patriots 2022 Season
« Reply #503 on: October 09, 2022, 03:56:20 PM »

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Defense is playing its ass off.  Offense... is treading water.  Zappe is hitting his targets and his INT wasn't his fault, but it's clear we're taking no chances with him.  Stevenson and Meyers are playing well.  I expect more out of the rest of this WR core.

I actually don't mind at all. As we're seeing, to beat Detroit we probably don't need some elite QB performance. Even if it were Mac Jones or hell, even a Tom Brady in the past, they'd probably only need around 200 yards and no turnovers to get a win. Zappe has 1 INT unfortunately (not his fault), but he's probably going to get 200 yards passing unless they just run it all the 2nd half. Play it safe, don't get stupid.

People forget, even in the Brady dynasty years during the regular season there was always around 4-5 games where Brady would be "meh/average" and didn't do too much, but they didn't need to to beat bad teams like the Jets, etc. Just don't give up multiple turnovers or make brutal mistakes
Even more so before the 2007 season when Brady was pretty exclusively a game managing type QB.
Why do Patriots fans regurgitate this false narrative that Brady haters came up with? No, Brady wasn't just a game manager. He led the league in TDs in his second year, and was consistently in the top 5-10 for TDs every year before 2007.
Were you watching the games back then or are you just regurgitating stats?

Brady wasn't given complete control of the offense through those first Super Bowl years. Belichick put a huge emphasis on the running game and defense and called safe passing plays for Brady for the most part. Brady was there to not make mistakes.....not to dominate the game. That's pretty much the definition of a game manager.
Yes, but game manager sort of implies not good enough so you have to play that safe conservative style.  Trent Dilfer's Super Bowl run with the Ravens is a pretty classic game manager type situation.  Brady, though, was absolute money in the clutch.  Patriots needed a game winning drive, Brady would deliver time and time again.  He always had elite skill, the team just didn't play in a way to maximize it because they did not need to play more aggressively to win.  Once that dominate defense aged out, the talent on defense wasn't AS good, so they played more aggressively on offense and that is when Brady shed the game manager moniker, but Brady was never really a game manager in the classic sense of the definition.  The Patriots were conservative, but not because Brady wasn't good enough, but just because that is who Bill is at heart. 

As an example, the very first Super Bowl run.

Divisional Round - Pats down 3 with just over 2 minutes left.  Brady leads them on game tying FG drive.  2 for 4, 20 yards, 2 runs 6 yards.  Then in OT, Brady does not miss pass going 8 for 8 for 45 yards, also adding 2 yards rushing (Smith had some rushing yards)

AFC Championship - Brady goes out just before halftime with a 7-3 lead (they scored a TD on the drive he got hurt and went up 14-3)

Super Bowl - Brady comes back for the game and leads the Patriots on the game winning drive, in which Vinatieri hits the FG as time expires.  In that drive, which started with 1 minute 37 seconds left and 0 timeouts, Brady goes 5 of 8 (but the 3 misses were all spikes I believe) for 57 yards.  Absolute precision.  That is not a game manager.  That is guy that has always delivered in the clutch and the big moments.
Regardless of Brady's abilities, he was handled as a game manager. It's no insult to Brady. It's how he was handled.

Even when handled conservatively, he turned the ball over at the highest rates in his career in those early years. Would the team have performed as well if Brady was allowed to go all gun slinger and turned the ball over even more? I doubt it.

RPG seems to think it's some sort of insult to Brady to say he was used as a game manager early in his career. It's not. It's probably why Brady became Brady. It's probably why he has so many SB wins. There is nothing insulting about stating how Brady was used when the results are so startlingly positive.

Re: Patriots 2022 Season
« Reply #504 on: October 09, 2022, 04:10:00 PM »

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Obviously there's still things to work on/improve and hopefully we get more guys back healthy (Mac Jones, Lawrence Guy, etc), but boy it feels good to have a game like this especially with how some of the recent games have gone. Dominant, feel-good win in a nice cool, crisp October day at Foxboro. All with the throwback uniforms and field. Good feeling.

I have to imagine a game like this is also a positive momentum-builder for the team going forward.
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Re: Patriots 2022 Season
« Reply #505 on: October 09, 2022, 04:25:31 PM »

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Defense is playing its ass off.  Offense... is treading water.  Zappe is hitting his targets and his INT wasn't his fault, but it's clear we're taking no chances with him.  Stevenson and Meyers are playing well.  I expect more out of the rest of this WR core.

I actually don't mind at all. As we're seeing, to beat Detroit we probably don't need some elite QB performance. Even if it were Mac Jones or hell, even a Tom Brady in the past, they'd probably only need around 200 yards and no turnovers to get a win. Zappe has 1 INT unfortunately (not his fault), but he's probably going to get 200 yards passing unless they just run it all the 2nd half. Play it safe, don't get stupid.

People forget, even in the Brady dynasty years during the regular season there was always around 4-5 games where Brady would be "meh/average" and didn't do too much, but they didn't need to to beat bad teams like the Jets, etc. Just don't give up multiple turnovers or make brutal mistakes
Even more so before the 2007 season when Brady was pretty exclusively a game managing type QB.
Why do Patriots fans regurgitate this false narrative that Brady haters came up with? No, Brady wasn't just a game manager. He led the league in TDs in his second year, and was consistently in the top 5-10 for TDs every year before 2007.
Were you watching the games back then or are you just regurgitating stats?

Brady wasn't given complete control of the offense through those first Super Bowl years. Belichick put a huge emphasis on the running game and defense and called safe passing plays for Brady for the most part. Brady was there to not make mistakes.....not to dominate the game. That's pretty much the definition of a game manager.
Yes, but game manager sort of implies not good enough so you have to play that safe conservative style.  Trent Dilfer's Super Bowl run with the Ravens is a pretty classic game manager type situation.  Brady, though, was absolute money in the clutch.  Patriots needed a game winning drive, Brady would deliver time and time again.  He always had elite skill, the team just didn't play in a way to maximize it because they did not need to play more aggressively to win.  Once that dominate defense aged out, the talent on defense wasn't AS good, so they played more aggressively on offense and that is when Brady shed the game manager moniker, but Brady was never really a game manager in the classic sense of the definition.  The Patriots were conservative, but not because Brady wasn't good enough, but just because that is who Bill is at heart. 

As an example, the very first Super Bowl run.

Divisional Round - Pats down 3 with just over 2 minutes left.  Brady leads them on game tying FG drive.  2 for 4, 20 yards, 2 runs 6 yards.  Then in OT, Brady does not miss pass going 8 for 8 for 45 yards, also adding 2 yards rushing (Smith had some rushing yards)

AFC Championship - Brady goes out just before halftime with a 7-3 lead (they scored a TD on the drive he got hurt and went up 14-3)

Super Bowl - Brady comes back for the game and leads the Patriots on the game winning drive, in which Vinatieri hits the FG as time expires.  In that drive, which started with 1 minute 37 seconds left and 0 timeouts, Brady goes 5 of 8 (but the 3 misses were all spikes I believe) for 57 yards.  Absolute precision.  That is not a game manager.  That is guy that has always delivered in the clutch and the big moments.
Regardless of Brady's abilities, he was handled as a game manager. It's no insult to Brady. It's how he was handled.

Even when handled conservatively, he turned the ball over at the highest rates in his career in those early years. Would the team have performed as well if Brady was allowed to go all gun slinger and turned the ball over even more? I doubt it.

RPG seems to think it's some sort of insult to Brady to say he was used as a game manager early in his career. It's not. It's probably why Brady became Brady. It's probably why he has so many SB wins. There is nothing insulting about stating how Brady was used when the results are so startlingly positive.
That is certainly fair, though maybe his turnover rate was higher because they were only passing in clearly passing downs (or you know he was a young guy who makes mistakes).  And obviously when you win 3 Super Bowls in 4 seasons, you are doing pretty much everything correctly, that said calling a QB a game manager has absolutely always been considered an insult and I think that is point of contention.

One of the big differences we've had about the Patriots recently is how they used Mac Jones last year.  I absolutely believe that the more conservative play calling last year, was a detriment to Jones' long-term growth (even if it might have been a win or two on the ledger), and unlike when Brady was coming up, the Patriots defense and overall offense wasn't nearly as good.  I think they should have let Mac go more, something they did more of this year (which is why he has more INT's), because I do think for QB's to reach their full potential they need the ability to really make mistakes, to grow from them, and learn from them.  I also think teams are better served seeing what their young QB can do to see if they are actually investing in long term. 
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Re: Patriots 2022 Season
« Reply #506 on: October 09, 2022, 04:27:18 PM »

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Defense is playing its ass off.  Offense... is treading water.  Zappe is hitting his targets and his INT wasn't his fault, but it's clear we're taking no chances with him.  Stevenson and Meyers are playing well.  I expect more out of the rest of this WR core.

I actually don't mind at all. As we're seeing, to beat Detroit we probably don't need some elite QB performance. Even if it were Mac Jones or hell, even a Tom Brady in the past, they'd probably only need around 200 yards and no turnovers to get a win. Zappe has 1 INT unfortunately (not his fault), but he's probably going to get 200 yards passing unless they just run it all the 2nd half. Play it safe, don't get stupid.

People forget, even in the Brady dynasty years during the regular season there was always around 4-5 games where Brady would be "meh/average" and didn't do too much, but they didn't need to to beat bad teams like the Jets, etc. Just don't give up multiple turnovers or make brutal mistakes
Even more so before the 2007 season when Brady was pretty exclusively a game managing type QB.
Why do Patriots fans regurgitate this false narrative that Brady haters came up with? No, Brady wasn't just a game manager. He led the league in TDs in his second year, and was consistently in the top 5-10 for TDs every year before 2007.
Were you watching the games back then or are you just regurgitating stats?

Brady wasn't given complete control of the offense through those first Super Bowl years. Belichick put a huge emphasis on the running game and defense and called safe passing plays for Brady for the most part. Brady was there to not make mistakes.....not to dominate the game. That's pretty much the definition of a game manager.
Yes, but game manager sort of implies not good enough so you have to play that safe conservative style.  Trent Dilfer's Super Bowl run with the Ravens is a pretty classic game manager type situation.  Brady, though, was absolute money in the clutch.  Patriots needed a game winning drive, Brady would deliver time and time again.  He always had elite skill, the team just didn't play in a way to maximize it because they did not need to play more aggressively to win.  Once that dominate defense aged out, the talent on defense wasn't AS good, so they played more aggressively on offense and that is when Brady shed the game manager moniker, but Brady was never really a game manager in the classic sense of the definition.  The Patriots were conservative, but not because Brady wasn't good enough, but just because that is who Bill is at heart. 

As an example, the very first Super Bowl run.

Divisional Round - Pats down 3 with just over 2 minutes left.  Brady leads them on game tying FG drive.  2 for 4, 20 yards, 2 runs 6 yards.  Then in OT, Brady does not miss pass going 8 for 8 for 45 yards, also adding 2 yards rushing (Smith had some rushing yards)

AFC Championship - Brady goes out just before halftime with a 7-3 lead (they scored a TD on the drive he got hurt and went up 14-3)

Super Bowl - Brady comes back for the game and leads the Patriots on the game winning drive, in which Vinatieri hits the FG as time expires.  In that drive, which started with 1 minute 37 seconds left and 0 timeouts, Brady goes 5 of 8 (but the 3 misses were all spikes I believe) for 57 yards.  Absolute precision.  That is not a game manager.  That is guy that has always delivered in the clutch and the big moments.
Regardless of Brady's abilities, he was handled as a game manager. It's no insult to Brady. It's how he was handled.

Even when handled conservatively, he turned the ball over at the highest rates in his career in those early years. Would the team have performed as well if Brady was allowed to go all gun slinger and turned the ball over even more? I doubt it.

RPG seems to think it's some sort of insult to Brady to say he was used as a game manager early in his career. It's not. It's probably why Brady became Brady. It's probably why he has so many SB wins. There is nothing insulting about stating how Brady was used when the results are so startlingly positive.
That is certainly fair, though maybe his turnover rate was higher because they were only passing in clearly passing downs (or you know he was a young guy who makes mistakes).  And obviously when you win 3 Super Bowls in 4 seasons, you are doing pretty much everything correctly, that said calling a QB a game manager has absolutely always been considered an insult and I think that is point of contention.

One of the big differences we've had about the Patriots recently is how they used Mac Jones last year.  I absolutely believe that the more conservative play calling last year, was a detriment to Jones' long-term growth (even if it might have been a win or two on the ledger), and unlike when Brady was coming up, the Patriots defense and overall offense wasn't nearly as good.  I think they should have let Mac go more, something they did more of this year (which is why he has more INT's), because I do think for QB's to reach their full potential they need the ability to really make mistakes, to grow from them, and learn from them.  I also think teams are better served seeing what their young QB can do to see if they are actually investing in long term.

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« Reply #507 on: October 09, 2022, 04:53:41 PM »

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Obviously there's still things to work on/improve and hopefully we get more guys back healthy (Mac Jones, Lawrence Guy, etc), but boy it feels good to have a game like this especially with how some of the recent games have gone. Dominant, feel-good win in a nice cool, crisp October day at Foxboro. All with the throwback uniforms and field. Good feeling.

I have to imagine a game like this is also a positive momentum-builder for the team going forward.

I’m thrilled with the win today. A loss to the Lions and a 1-4 record would have been really deflating. I think the Pats should stick with Zappe as long as they can to give Mac more time to heal. I saw a video of him doing some light throwing on Friday and he is still has a pronounced limp. If the defense continues to be strong and the O-line opens up lanes like they did today, the Pats should be able to win quite a few of the upcoming games. Couldn’t ask for a better schedule.
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Obviously there's still things to work on/improve and hopefully we get more guys back healthy (Mac Jones, Lawrence Guy, etc), but boy it feels good to have a game like this especially with how some of the recent games have gone. Dominant, feel-good win in a nice cool, crisp October day at Foxboro. All with the throwback uniforms and field. Good feeling.

I have to imagine a game like this is also a positive momentum-builder for the team going forward.

I’m thrilled with the win today. A loss to the Lions and a 1-4 record would have been really deflating. I think the Pats should stick with Zappe as long as they can to give Mac more time to heal. I saw a video of him doing some light throwing on Friday and he is still has a pronounced limp. If the defense continues to be strong and the O-line opens up lanes like they did today, the Pats should be able to win quite a few of the upcoming games. Couldn’t ask for a better schedule.

Yeah personally, I'd keep Mac out next week and then work to bring him back during the Bears game the following week. The Bears game is a Monday Night game too so in essence that'd be an extra 1-2 days of practice and recovery for Mac since it's not a regular Sunday game.

Play Cleveland next week with Zappe, then ease Mac Jones in the following week against Chicago and go from there. There's still two full weeks until the Chicago game and by then it'll have been about a month which is I think what most timetables predicted for Jones' sprained ankle (~4 to 5 weeks)
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Re: Patriots 2022 Season
« Reply #509 on: October 09, 2022, 05:42:23 PM »

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Detroit had the best offense in the game before today. D has dominated, though not going for 4 FGs because of a lack of a kicker might have something to do with the shutout
Yeah, all those turnover on downs in FG range, look weird, but they wouldn't have altered the outcome or take away from the superb defensive performance.  I'd expect the Patriots lose to Cleveland next week, but they should beat the Bears at home and Jets in NY.  Two more winnable games with the Colts and Jets at home, but after that, is when the schedule becomes very difficult.  If the Pats are going to do anything this year, they need to 4-1 over the next 5, I don't think they will, but they have to get to 6 wins before their last 7 if they have any shot at making the playoffs.

Moving the goal posts? You said they were going to win 6 games this year. You also said Belichick is a bad GM.