Don’t Do It, Brad

[Goldstar88]

I hope there's some very open communication between Brad and JB.

His agent is Kanye, so my guess is that Brad doesn't have a great feel about how he operates.

How things have changed. Remember when Jaylen was his own agent and would hire industry specific consultants when negotiating contracts? Now it's Kanye - you've got to be kidding me.

Kanye's not his agent though. Donda Sports handles his marketing and branding. Not his actual NBA business.

It’s just as bad, though. Maybe worse. Wouldn’t be surprised if they are telling him that he needs his own team, in a bigger market as it will be better for his brand.

Sure. They could also just be advising him on growing his Jui7e brand and helping him land more media opportunities. Just pointing out that Donda sports does not handle his basketball and there'd be no reason for the team to engage with them around trade talks.

The pessimistic speculation around Jaylen is starting to get weird.

All we can do is try and read the tea leaves. From a business standpoint, it makes sense for any player to want to be “The Man” on a team if they are trying to build their brand/business. I also don’t recall many (if any) instances where JB had mentioned that he loves being in Boston.

"“I’ve been in Boston for five years, and I’m a Bostonian now in a sense,” Brown told reporters Saturday. “It’s a major time of my life I’ve spent in Boston now. I’m trying to be a part of the solutions and not the problems here, and trying to see where I can help out because it takes a community, and I’m trying to be a part of this community."

https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2020/12/12/jaylen-brown-bostonian-of-year-celtics/

That took all of 5 seconds to google search.

There are no tea leaves. I don't believe that Jaylen is disgruntled because of a liked tweet or that he took a picture with Kyrie. There's been zero reports that he told management he's not resigning in 2 years - that's all made up conjecture by posters here. Even if he did want out, he's 2 years out from free agency. There's no way to predict what the free agency market looks like. Which teams have cap space? Are those rosters he's going to want to join? Is he going to get to free agency and realize that leaving a contender that can pay him the most money and has a coach he advocated for hiring isn't the best basketball decision?

Which part of that quote states that he loves being in Boston? He’s been in Boston for 5 years( well 7 considering the quote is from 2020) and he considers himself a Bostonian at this point. That doesn’t at all mean that he loves being in Boston in 2022. It could also take me 5 seconds to find a more recent quote like, “That trade talk was loud, and most of it came from Boston fans,” Brown told Yahoo Sports or when Brown Likes” on Twitter, as of Monday afternoon, included a tweet Sunday from user @BantonioClown that reads: “Jaylen Brown is so disrespected by Celtics fans.”

All we can do is speculate and I hope that I’m wrong in thinking that he doesn’t want to be in Boston long term. If your Brad, I don’t see why you would want to entertain these trade talks if JB wants to be here. Neither Stevens or anyone else from the Celtics have come out to say that the trade talks are untrue or said that JB is unavailable.

[RJ87]

I hope there's some very open communication between Brad and JB.

His agent is Kanye, so my guess is that Brad doesn't have a great feel about how he operates.

How things have changed. Remember when Jaylen was his own agent and would hire industry specific consultants when negotiating contracts? Now it's Kanye - you've got to be kidding me.

Kanye's not his agent though. Donda Sports handles his marketing and branding. Not his actual NBA business.

It’s just as bad, though. Maybe worse. Wouldn’t be surprised if they are telling him that he needs his own team, in a bigger market as it will be better for his brand.

Sure. They could also just be advising him on growing his Jui7e brand and helping him land more media opportunities. Just pointing out that Donda sports does not handle his basketball and there'd be no reason for the team to engage with them around trade talks.

The pessimistic speculation around Jaylen is starting to get weird.

All we can do is try and read the tea leaves. From a business standpoint, it makes sense for any player to want to be “The Man” on a team if they are trying to build their brand/business. I also don’t recall many (if any) instances where JB had mentioned that he loves being in Boston.

"“I’ve been in Boston for five years, and I’m a Bostonian now in a sense,” Brown told reporters Saturday. “It’s a major time of my life I’ve spent in Boston now. I’m trying to be a part of the solutions and not the problems here, and trying to see where I can help out because it takes a community, and I’m trying to be a part of this community."

https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2020/12/12/jaylen-brown-bostonian-of-year-celtics/

That took all of 5 seconds to google search.

There are no tea leaves. I don't believe that Jaylen is disgruntled because of a liked tweet or that he took a picture with Kyrie. There's been zero reports that he told management he's not resigning in 2 years - that's all made up conjecture by posters here. Even if he did want out, he's 2 years out from free agency. There's no way to predict what the free agency market looks like. Which teams have cap space? Are those rosters he's going to want to join? Is he going to get to free agency and realize that leaving a contender that can pay him the most money and has a coach he advocated for hiring isn't the best basketball decision?

Which part of that quote states that he loves being in Boston? He’s been in Boston for 5 years( well 7 considering the quote is from 2020) and he considers himself a Bostonian at this point. That doesn’t at all mean that he loves being in Boston in 2022. It could also take me 5 seconds to find a more recent quote like, “That trade talk was loud, and most of it came from Boston fans,” Brown told Yahoo Sports or when Brown Likes” on Twitter, as of Monday afternoon, included a tweet Sunday from user @BantonioClown that reads: “Jaylen Brown is so disrespected by Celtics fans.”

All we can do is speculate and I hope that I’m wrong in thinking that he doesn’t want to be in Boston long term. If your Brad, I don’t see why you would want to entertain these trade talks if JB wants to be here. Neither Stevens or anyone else from the Celtics have come out to say that the trade talks are untrue or said that JB is unavailable.

The idea that Brad will or can only trade Jaylen because it's an indication that Jaylen wants out is fundamentally flawed. At the end of the day, it's on Brad to build this team into a championship winner. He has to make the hard decisions. Even if I don't care for him, Kevin Durant is considered a top 3 player in the league. On paper, it's a huge upgrade. If Brad isn't willing to explore deals like this, he should step down because he's not doing his job - whether Jaylen is committed or not.

It's not as if the Celtics are actively shopping Jaylen to any team that will listen. This was a singular instance of a trade offer. It doesn't have to be as fatalistic as "Brad offered him, he's gone!" and quite as simple as Brad exploring the possibility of getting the team closer to a title.

[SparzWizard]

I think if you're Brad you have to do this lol

JB for Durant let's get it done

[Goldstar88]

I hope there's some very open communication between Brad and JB.

His agent is Kanye, so my guess is that Brad doesn't have a great feel about how he operates.

How things have changed. Remember when Jaylen was his own agent and would hire industry specific consultants when negotiating contracts? Now it's Kanye - you've got to be kidding me.

Kanye's not his agent though. Donda Sports handles his marketing and branding. Not his actual NBA business.

It’s just as bad, though. Maybe worse. Wouldn’t be surprised if they are telling him that he needs his own team, in a bigger market as it will be better for his brand.

Sure. They could also just be advising him on growing his Jui7e brand and helping him land more media opportunities. Just pointing out that Donda sports does not handle his basketball and there'd be no reason for the team to engage with them around trade talks.

The pessimistic speculation around Jaylen is starting to get weird.

All we can do is try and read the tea leaves. From a business standpoint, it makes sense for any player to want to be “The Man” on a team if they are trying to build their brand/business. I also don’t recall many (if any) instances where JB had mentioned that he loves being in Boston.

"“I’ve been in Boston for five years, and I’m a Bostonian now in a sense,” Brown told reporters Saturday. “It’s a major time of my life I’ve spent in Boston now. I’m trying to be a part of the solutions and not the problems here, and trying to see where I can help out because it takes a community, and I’m trying to be a part of this community."

https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2020/12/12/jaylen-brown-bostonian-of-year-celtics/

That took all of 5 seconds to google search.

There are no tea leaves. I don't believe that Jaylen is disgruntled because of a liked tweet or that he took a picture with Kyrie. There's been zero reports that he told management he's not resigning in 2 years - that's all made up conjecture by posters here. Even if he did want out, he's 2 years out from free agency. There's no way to predict what the free agency market looks like. Which teams have cap space? Are those rosters he's going to want to join? Is he going to get to free agency and realize that leaving a contender that can pay him the most money and has a coach he advocated for hiring isn't the best basketball decision?

Which part of that quote states that he loves being in Boston? He’s been in Boston for 5 years( well 7 considering the quote is from 2020) and he considers himself a Bostonian at this point. That doesn’t at all mean that he loves being in Boston in 2022. It could also take me 5 seconds to find a more recent quote like, “That trade talk was loud, and most of it came from Boston fans,” Brown told Yahoo Sports or when Brown Likes” on Twitter, as of Monday afternoon, included a tweet Sunday from user @BantonioClown that reads: “Jaylen Brown is so disrespected by Celtics fans.”

All we can do is speculate and I hope that I’m wrong in thinking that he doesn’t want to be in Boston long term. If your Brad, I don’t see why you would want to entertain these trade talks if JB wants to be here. Neither Stevens or anyone else from the Celtics have come out to say that the trade talks are untrue or said that JB is unavailable.

The idea that Brad will or can only trade Jaylen because it's an indication that Jaylen wants out is fundamentally flawed. At the end of the day, it's on Brad to build this team into a championship winner. He has to make the hard decisions. Even if I don't care for him, Kevin Durant is considered a top 3 player in the league. On paper, it's a huge upgrade. If Brad isn't willing to explore deals like this, he should step down because he's not doing his job - whether Jaylen is committed or not.

It's not as if the Celtics are actively shopping Jaylen to any team that will listen. This was a singular instance of a trade offer. It doesn't have to be as fatalistic as "Brad offered him, he's gone!" and quite as simple as Brad exploring the possibility of getting the team closer to a title.

It’s really not, though. This is what Danny Ainge thought about JB and I tend to agree with him. If JB wants to be in Boston he should be untouchable coming off a finals birth where he was the best player.

Former Celtics big man Kendrick Perkins recalled a phone call he had with Ainge last year amid those trade talks.

"I remember last year around this time when teams were calling about James Harden and Houston actually wanted Jaylen Brown," Perkins said Friday on Celtics Pregame Live. "I was on the phone with Danny Ainge for an hour, and I remember how our conversation went. He was like, 'Hey, Perk, would you trade Jaylen Brown for James Harden?' And I was like, 'Danny, you know how I feel about Jaylen Brown, but I would trade him for James Harden.' He was like, ' Are you kidding me? He's not going anywhere. He's not even 25 and he keeps getting better.'

"And then all of a sudden, Danny didn't make the trade, [Jaylen] made the All-Star team, had a breakout year, and now he just keeps getting better. Jaylen Brown is a true professional, he works hard, and people say he's under-appreciated, but I would say people appreciate him now."

While there's no denying Harden's status as one of the NBA's elite players, Brown only continues to improve with each season. He took another leap in 2020-21 with a career-high 24.7 points per game and 48.4 shooting percentage.

With Brown blossoming into one of the NBA's best, don't expect him to be involved in trade rumors any time soon. Sports Illustrated's Chris Mannix added that the Celtics -- now led in the front office by former head coach Brad Stevens -- aren't interested in shopping their prized wing.

"Boston's willingness to move Jaylen Brown has diminished significantly by the year, where once he would've been the centerpiece in say an Anthony Davis deal, now he's closing in on virtually untouchable status," Mannix said. "And that's a credit to Jaylen Brown's work ethic."[/b]

[boscel33]

You know, to heck with Brad for even floating or letting this get out.  Way to completely blow up any chemistry or cohesiveness this TEAM had.

I really feeling like typing a whole bunch of cuss words right now, but don't want the mods to get on my case.

[MarcusSmartFanClub]

I hope there's some very open communication between Brad and JB.

His agent is Kanye, so my guess is that Brad doesn't have a great feel about how he operates.

How things have changed. Remember when Jaylen was his own agent and would hire industry specific consultants when negotiating contracts? Now it's Kanye - you've got to be kidding me.

Kanye's not his agent though. Donda Sports handles his marketing and branding. Not his actual NBA business.

It’s just as bad, though. Maybe worse. Wouldn’t be surprised if they are telling him that he needs his own team, in a bigger market as it will be better for his brand.

Sure. They could also just be advising him on growing his Jui7e brand and helping him land more media opportunities. Just pointing out that Donda sports does not handle his basketball and there'd be no reason for the team to engage with them around trade talks.

The pessimistic speculation around Jaylen is starting to get weird.

All we can do is try and read the tea leaves. From a business standpoint, it makes sense for any player to want to be “The Man” on a team if they are trying to build their brand/business. I also don’t recall many (if any) instances where JB had mentioned that he loves being in Boston.

"“I’ve been in Boston for five years, and I’m a Bostonian now in a sense,” Brown told reporters Saturday. “It’s a major time of my life I’ve spent in Boston now. I’m trying to be a part of the solutions and not the problems here, and trying to see where I can help out because it takes a community, and I’m trying to be a part of this community."

https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2020/12/12/jaylen-brown-bostonian-of-year-celtics/

That took all of 5 seconds to google search.

There are no tea leaves. I don't believe that Jaylen is disgruntled because of a liked tweet or that he took a picture with Kyrie. There's been zero reports that he told management he's not resigning in 2 years - that's all made up conjecture by posters here. Even if he did want out, he's 2 years out from free agency. There's no way to predict what the free agency market looks like. Which teams have cap space? Are those rosters he's going to want to join? Is he going to get to free agency and realize that leaving a contender that can pay him the most money and has a coach he advocated for hiring isn't the best basketball decision?

Which part of that quote states that he loves being in Boston? He’s been in Boston for 5 years( well 7 considering the quote is from 2020) and he considers himself a Bostonian at this point. That doesn’t at all mean that he loves being in Boston in 2022. It could also take me 5 seconds to find a more recent quote like, “That trade talk was loud, and most of it came from Boston fans,” Brown told Yahoo Sports or when Brown Likes” on Twitter, as of Monday afternoon, included a tweet Sunday from user @BantonioClown that reads: “Jaylen Brown is so disrespected by Celtics fans.”

All we can do is speculate and I hope that I’m wrong in thinking that he doesn’t want to be in Boston long term. If your Brad, I don’t see why you would want to entertain these trade talks if JB wants to be here. Neither Stevens or anyone else from the Celtics have come out to say that the trade talks are untrue or said that JB is unavailable.

The idea that Brad will or can only trade Jaylen because it's an indication that Jaylen wants out is fundamentally flawed. At the end of the day, it's on Brad to build this team into a championship winner. He has to make the hard decisions. Even if I don't care for him, Kevin Durant is considered a top 3 player in the league. On paper, it's a huge upgrade. If Brad isn't willing to explore deals like this, he should step down because he's not doing his job - whether Jaylen is committed or not.

It's not as if the Celtics are actively shopping Jaylen to any team that will listen. This was a singular instance of a trade offer. It doesn't have to be as fatalistic as "Brad offered him, he's gone!" and quite as simple as Brad exploring the possibility of getting the team closer to a title.

I don't think this is true. Why are we seeing trade offers without much coming back to Brooklyn? Tyler Herro? Duncan Robinson? John Collins and Bogdan? Toronto saying no to both Pascal Siakam and Scottie Barnes?

KD is not the same guy that won a Finals MVP. He knows he can't get it done in BKN and needs more help.

Furthermore, he got a qualified coach fired (Atkinson) while Steve Nash seems to know more about European soccer than coaching in the NBA.

JKJB

[RJ87]

I hope there's some very open communication between Brad and JB.

His agent is Kanye, so my guess is that Brad doesn't have a great feel about how he operates.

How things have changed. Remember when Jaylen was his own agent and would hire industry specific consultants when negotiating contracts? Now it's Kanye - you've got to be kidding me.

Kanye's not his agent though. Donda Sports handles his marketing and branding. Not his actual NBA business.

It’s just as bad, though. Maybe worse. Wouldn’t be surprised if they are telling him that he needs his own team, in a bigger market as it will be better for his brand.

Sure. They could also just be advising him on growing his Jui7e brand and helping him land more media opportunities. Just pointing out that Donda sports does not handle his basketball and there'd be no reason for the team to engage with them around trade talks.

The pessimistic speculation around Jaylen is starting to get weird.

All we can do is try and read the tea leaves. From a business standpoint, it makes sense for any player to want to be “The Man” on a team if they are trying to build their brand/business. I also don’t recall many (if any) instances where JB had mentioned that he loves being in Boston.

"“I’ve been in Boston for five years, and I’m a Bostonian now in a sense,” Brown told reporters Saturday. “It’s a major time of my life I’ve spent in Boston now. I’m trying to be a part of the solutions and not the problems here, and trying to see where I can help out because it takes a community, and I’m trying to be a part of this community."

https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2020/12/12/jaylen-brown-bostonian-of-year-celtics/

That took all of 5 seconds to google search.

There are no tea leaves. I don't believe that Jaylen is disgruntled because of a liked tweet or that he took a picture with Kyrie. There's been zero reports that he told management he's not resigning in 2 years - that's all made up conjecture by posters here. Even if he did want out, he's 2 years out from free agency. There's no way to predict what the free agency market looks like. Which teams have cap space? Are those rosters he's going to want to join? Is he going to get to free agency and realize that leaving a contender that can pay him the most money and has a coach he advocated for hiring isn't the best basketball decision?

Which part of that quote states that he loves being in Boston? He’s been in Boston for 5 years( well 7 considering the quote is from 2020) and he considers himself a Bostonian at this point. That doesn’t at all mean that he loves being in Boston in 2022. It could also take me 5 seconds to find a more recent quote like, “That trade talk was loud, and most of it came from Boston fans,” Brown told Yahoo Sports or when Brown Likes” on Twitter, as of Monday afternoon, included a tweet Sunday from user @BantonioClown that reads: “Jaylen Brown is so disrespected by Celtics fans.”

All we can do is speculate and I hope that I’m wrong in thinking that he doesn’t want to be in Boston long term. If your Brad, I don’t see why you would want to entertain these trade talks if JB wants to be here. Neither Stevens or anyone else from the Celtics have come out to say that the trade talks are untrue or said that JB is unavailable.

The idea that Brad will or can only trade Jaylen because it's an indication that Jaylen wants out is fundamentally flawed. At the end of the day, it's on Brad to build this team into a championship winner. He has to make the hard decisions. Even if I don't care for him, Kevin Durant is considered a top 3 player in the league. On paper, it's a huge upgrade. If Brad isn't willing to explore deals like this, he should step down because he's not doing his job - whether Jaylen is committed or not.

It's not as if the Celtics are actively shopping Jaylen to any team that will listen. This was a singular instance of a trade offer. It doesn't have to be as fatalistic as "Brad offered him, he's gone!" and quite as simple as Brad exploring the possibility of getting the team closer to a title.

It’s really not, though. This is what Danny Ainge thought about JB and I tend to agree with him. If JB wants to be in Boston he should be untouchable coming off a finals birth where he was the best player.

Former Celtics big man Kendrick Perkins recalled a phone call he had with Ainge last year amid those trade talks.

"I remember last year around this time when teams were calling about James Harden and Houston actually wanted Jaylen Brown," Perkins said Friday on Celtics Pregame Live. "I was on the phone with Danny Ainge for an hour, and I remember how our conversation went. He was like, 'Hey, Perk, would you trade Jaylen Brown for James Harden?' And I was like, 'Danny, you know how I feel about Jaylen Brown, but I would trade him for James Harden.' He was like, ' Are you kidding me? He's not going anywhere. He's not even 25 and he keeps getting better.'

"And then all of a sudden, Danny didn't make the trade, [Jaylen] made the All-Star team, had a breakout year, and now he just keeps getting better. Jaylen Brown is a true professional, he works hard, and people say he's under-appreciated, but I would say people appreciate him now."

While there's no denying Harden's status as one of the NBA's elite players, Brown only continues to improve with each season. He took another leap in 2020-21 with a career-high 24.7 points per game and 48.4 shooting percentage.

With Brown blossoming into one of the NBA's best, don't expect him to be involved in trade rumors any time soon. Sports Illustrated's Chris Mannix added that the Celtics -- now led in the front office by former head coach Brad Stevens -- aren't interested in shopping their prized wing.

"Boston's willingness to move Jaylen Brown has diminished significantly by the year, where once he would've been the centerpiece in say an Anthony Davis deal, now he's closing in on virtually untouchable status," Mannix said. "And that's a credit to Jaylen Brown's work ethic."[/b]

That was Danny. That's how he felt. And if Danny had the chance to get KD or his white whale, Anthony Davis, he would've driven Jaylen to the airport himself.

The case can be made that Danny's unwillingness to make bigger moves towards the end his tenure led to the issues that held this team back during the 2020-21 season. Brad has shown he has a completely different approach in how he values assets and team building. 

Again, there is a distinct difference between shopping Jaylen to multiple teams and offering him in a deal for a player of Durant's caliber. Jaylen could very well be nearly untouchable except for certain players. I personally think Durant is a malcontent and wouldn't trade for him at all, but I'd have no issue trading Jaylen for another major player.

[86MaxwellSmart]

Huge gamble on Brad's part...but I think he knows the C's were lucky to get to the Finals last season and things change quickly (Like The Hawks)...can't sit still with fingers crossed, gotta make something happen.

[Birdman]

I believe it’s all talk like every year..just need a backup center & we ready to roll

[ozgod]

You know, to heck with Brad for even floating or letting this get out.  Way to completely blow up any chemistry or cohesiveness this TEAM had.

I really feeling like typing a whole bunch of cuss words right now, but don't want the mods to get on my case.

This is Brad's job though. He's the GM. He has to explore ways to make the team better. Exploring an option doesn't mean you will go through with it. I'm guessing they lowballed the offer to see what the Nets would come back with. And were I a betting man I'd put a lot of money on the leak not being on the Celtics side.

[Goldstar88]

I hope there's some very open communication between Brad and JB.

His agent is Kanye, so my guess is that Brad doesn't have a great feel about how he operates.

How things have changed. Remember when Jaylen was his own agent and would hire industry specific consultants when negotiating contracts? Now it's Kanye - you've got to be kidding me.

Kanye's not his agent though. Donda Sports handles his marketing and branding. Not his actual NBA business.

It’s just as bad, though. Maybe worse. Wouldn’t be surprised if they are telling him that he needs his own team, in a bigger market as it will be better for his brand.

Sure. They could also just be advising him on growing his Jui7e brand and helping him land more media opportunities. Just pointing out that Donda sports does not handle his basketball and there'd be no reason for the team to engage with them around trade talks.

The pessimistic speculation around Jaylen is starting to get weird.

All we can do is try and read the tea leaves. From a business standpoint, it makes sense for any player to want to be “The Man” on a team if they are trying to build their brand/business. I also don’t recall many (if any) instances where JB had mentioned that he loves being in Boston.

"“I’ve been in Boston for five years, and I’m a Bostonian now in a sense,” Brown told reporters Saturday. “It’s a major time of my life I’ve spent in Boston now. I’m trying to be a part of the solutions and not the problems here, and trying to see where I can help out because it takes a community, and I’m trying to be a part of this community."

https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2020/12/12/jaylen-brown-bostonian-of-year-celtics/

That took all of 5 seconds to google search.

There are no tea leaves. I don't believe that Jaylen is disgruntled because of a liked tweet or that he took a picture with Kyrie. There's been zero reports that he told management he's not resigning in 2 years - that's all made up conjecture by posters here. Even if he did want out, he's 2 years out from free agency. There's no way to predict what the free agency market looks like. Which teams have cap space? Are those rosters he's going to want to join? Is he going to get to free agency and realize that leaving a contender that can pay him the most money and has a coach he advocated for hiring isn't the best basketball decision?

Which part of that quote states that he loves being in Boston? He’s been in Boston for 5 years( well 7 considering the quote is from 2020) and he considers himself a Bostonian at this point. That doesn’t at all mean that he loves being in Boston in 2022. It could also take me 5 seconds to find a more recent quote like, “That trade talk was loud, and most of it came from Boston fans,” Brown told Yahoo Sports or when Brown Likes” on Twitter, as of Monday afternoon, included a tweet Sunday from user @BantonioClown that reads: “Jaylen Brown is so disrespected by Celtics fans.”

All we can do is speculate and I hope that I’m wrong in thinking that he doesn’t want to be in Boston long term. If your Brad, I don’t see why you would want to entertain these trade talks if JB wants to be here. Neither Stevens or anyone else from the Celtics have come out to say that the trade talks are untrue or said that JB is unavailable.

The idea that Brad will or can only trade Jaylen because it's an indication that Jaylen wants out is fundamentally flawed. At the end of the day, it's on Brad to build this team into a championship winner. He has to make the hard decisions. Even if I don't care for him, Kevin Durant is considered a top 3 player in the league. On paper, it's a huge upgrade. If Brad isn't willing to explore deals like this, he should step down because he's not doing his job - whether Jaylen is committed or not.

It's not as if the Celtics are actively shopping Jaylen to any team that will listen. This was a singular instance of a trade offer. It doesn't have to be as fatalistic as "Brad offered him, he's gone!" and quite as simple as Brad exploring the possibility of getting the team closer to a title.

It’s really not, though. This is what Danny Ainge thought about JB and I tend to agree with him. If JB wants to be in Boston he should be untouchable coming off a finals birth where he was the best player.

Former Celtics big man Kendrick Perkins recalled a phone call he had with Ainge last year amid those trade talks.

"I remember last year around this time when teams were calling about James Harden and Houston actually wanted Jaylen Brown," Perkins said Friday on Celtics Pregame Live. "I was on the phone with Danny Ainge for an hour, and I remember how our conversation went. He was like, 'Hey, Perk, would you trade Jaylen Brown for James Harden?' And I was like, 'Danny, you know how I feel about Jaylen Brown, but I would trade him for James Harden.' He was like, ' Are you kidding me? He's not going anywhere. He's not even 25 and he keeps getting better.'

"And then all of a sudden, Danny didn't make the trade, [Jaylen] made the All-Star team, had a breakout year, and now he just keeps getting better. Jaylen Brown is a true professional, he works hard, and people say he's under-appreciated, but I would say people appreciate him now."

While there's no denying Harden's status as one of the NBA's elite players, Brown only continues to improve with each season. He took another leap in 2020-21 with a career-high 24.7 points per game and 48.4 shooting percentage.

With Brown blossoming into one of the NBA's best, don't expect him to be involved in trade rumors any time soon. Sports Illustrated's Chris Mannix added that the Celtics -- now led in the front office by former head coach Brad Stevens -- aren't interested in shopping their prized wing.

"Boston's willingness to move Jaylen Brown has diminished significantly by the year, where once he would've been the centerpiece in say an Anthony Davis deal, now he's closing in on virtually untouchable status," Mannix said. "And that's a credit to Jaylen Brown's work ethic."[/b]

That was Danny. That's how he felt. And if Danny had the chance to get KD or his white whale, Anthony Davis, he would've driven Jaylen to the airport himself.

The case can be made that Danny's unwillingness to make bigger moves towards the end his tenure led to the issues that held this team back during the 2020-21 season. Brad has shown he has a completely different approach in how he values assets and team building. 

Again, there is a distinct difference between shopping Jaylen to multiple teams and offering him in a deal for a player of Durant's caliber. Jaylen could very well be nearly untouchable except for certain players. I personally think Durant is a malcontent and wouldn't trade for him at all, but I'd have no issue trading Jaylen for another major player.

Danny had the chance to land Harden who was coming off a 34.3pt/7.6reb/6.6ast season and won the MVP the year before. He was KD’s caliber at that time. Danny Still said no due to his age and potential fit. These are the same issues with Durant only worse as he’s older and often malcontent. If JB wants to be in Boston and Brad trades him for a 34 year old KD, that’s a huge mistake.

[RJ87]

I hope there's some very open communication between Brad and JB.

His agent is Kanye, so my guess is that Brad doesn't have a great feel about how he operates.

How things have changed. Remember when Jaylen was his own agent and would hire industry specific consultants when negotiating contracts? Now it's Kanye - you've got to be kidding me.

Kanye's not his agent though. Donda Sports handles his marketing and branding. Not his actual NBA business.

It’s just as bad, though. Maybe worse. Wouldn’t be surprised if they are telling him that he needs his own team, in a bigger market as it will be better for his brand.

Sure. They could also just be advising him on growing his Jui7e brand and helping him land more media opportunities. Just pointing out that Donda sports does not handle his basketball and there'd be no reason for the team to engage with them around trade talks.

The pessimistic speculation around Jaylen is starting to get weird.

All we can do is try and read the tea leaves. From a business standpoint, it makes sense for any player to want to be “The Man” on a team if they are trying to build their brand/business. I also don’t recall many (if any) instances where JB had mentioned that he loves being in Boston.

"“I’ve been in Boston for five years, and I’m a Bostonian now in a sense,” Brown told reporters Saturday. “It’s a major time of my life I’ve spent in Boston now. I’m trying to be a part of the solutions and not the problems here, and trying to see where I can help out because it takes a community, and I’m trying to be a part of this community."

https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2020/12/12/jaylen-brown-bostonian-of-year-celtics/

That took all of 5 seconds to google search.

There are no tea leaves. I don't believe that Jaylen is disgruntled because of a liked tweet or that he took a picture with Kyrie. There's been zero reports that he told management he's not resigning in 2 years - that's all made up conjecture by posters here. Even if he did want out, he's 2 years out from free agency. There's no way to predict what the free agency market looks like. Which teams have cap space? Are those rosters he's going to want to join? Is he going to get to free agency and realize that leaving a contender that can pay him the most money and has a coach he advocated for hiring isn't the best basketball decision?

Which part of that quote states that he loves being in Boston? He’s been in Boston for 5 years( well 7 considering the quote is from 2020) and he considers himself a Bostonian at this point. That doesn’t at all mean that he loves being in Boston in 2022. It could also take me 5 seconds to find a more recent quote like, “That trade talk was loud, and most of it came from Boston fans,” Brown told Yahoo Sports or when Brown Likes” on Twitter, as of Monday afternoon, included a tweet Sunday from user @BantonioClown that reads: “Jaylen Brown is so disrespected by Celtics fans.”

All we can do is speculate and I hope that I’m wrong in thinking that he doesn’t want to be in Boston long term. If your Brad, I don’t see why you would want to entertain these trade talks if JB wants to be here. Neither Stevens or anyone else from the Celtics have come out to say that the trade talks are untrue or said that JB is unavailable.

The idea that Brad will or can only trade Jaylen because it's an indication that Jaylen wants out is fundamentally flawed. At the end of the day, it's on Brad to build this team into a championship winner. He has to make the hard decisions. Even if I don't care for him, Kevin Durant is considered a top 3 player in the league. On paper, it's a huge upgrade. If Brad isn't willing to explore deals like this, he should step down because he's not doing his job - whether Jaylen is committed or not.

It's not as if the Celtics are actively shopping Jaylen to any team that will listen. This was a singular instance of a trade offer. It doesn't have to be as fatalistic as "Brad offered him, he's gone!" and quite as simple as Brad exploring the possibility of getting the team closer to a title.

It’s really not, though. This is what Danny Ainge thought about JB and I tend to agree with him. If JB wants to be in Boston he should be untouchable coming off a finals birth where he was the best player.

Former Celtics big man Kendrick Perkins recalled a phone call he had with Ainge last year amid those trade talks.

"I remember last year around this time when teams were calling about James Harden and Houston actually wanted Jaylen Brown," Perkins said Friday on Celtics Pregame Live. "I was on the phone with Danny Ainge for an hour, and I remember how our conversation went. He was like, 'Hey, Perk, would you trade Jaylen Brown for James Harden?' And I was like, 'Danny, you know how I feel about Jaylen Brown, but I would trade him for James Harden.' He was like, ' Are you kidding me? He's not going anywhere. He's not even 25 and he keeps getting better.'

"And then all of a sudden, Danny didn't make the trade, [Jaylen] made the All-Star team, had a breakout year, and now he just keeps getting better. Jaylen Brown is a true professional, he works hard, and people say he's under-appreciated, but I would say people appreciate him now."

While there's no denying Harden's status as one of the NBA's elite players, Brown only continues to improve with each season. He took another leap in 2020-21 with a career-high 24.7 points per game and 48.4 shooting percentage.

With Brown blossoming into one of the NBA's best, don't expect him to be involved in trade rumors any time soon. Sports Illustrated's Chris Mannix added that the Celtics -- now led in the front office by former head coach Brad Stevens -- aren't interested in shopping their prized wing.

"Boston's willingness to move Jaylen Brown has diminished significantly by the year, where once he would've been the centerpiece in say an Anthony Davis deal, now he's closing in on virtually untouchable status," Mannix said. "And that's a credit to Jaylen Brown's work ethic."[/b]

That was Danny. That's how he felt. And if Danny had the chance to get KD or his white whale, Anthony Davis, he would've driven Jaylen to the airport himself.

The case can be made that Danny's unwillingness to make bigger moves towards the end his tenure led to the issues that held this team back during the 2020-21 season. Brad has shown he has a completely different approach in how he values assets and team building. 

Again, there is a distinct difference between shopping Jaylen to multiple teams and offering him in a deal for a player of Durant's caliber. Jaylen could very well be nearly untouchable except for certain players. I personally think Durant is a malcontent and wouldn't trade for him at all, but I'd have no issue trading Jaylen for another major player.

Danny had the chance to land Harden who was coming off a 34.3pt/7.6reb/6.6ast season and won the MVP the year before. He was KD’s caliber at that time. Danny Still said no due to his age and potential fit. These are the same issues with Durant only worse as he’s older and often malcontent. If JB wants to be in Boston and Brad trades him for a 34 year old KD, that’s a huge mistake.

I'm not sure what you're arguing with me about at this point. I've already said I don't support the deal. But its not up to me or you if this deal happens. Brad's the GM and he has to make calls based on the bigger picture. And remember, Brad doesn't act singularly. If this offer was legit, that means he and ownership agreed that this was a  deal that could put us closer to a title and was worth pursuing. Doesn't mean JB is available to the other 28 teams.

[Goldstar88]

I hope there's some very open communication between Brad and JB.

His agent is Kanye, so my guess is that Brad doesn't have a great feel about how he operates.

How things have changed. Remember when Jaylen was his own agent and would hire industry specific consultants when negotiating contracts? Now it's Kanye - you've got to be kidding me.

Kanye's not his agent though. Donda Sports handles his marketing and branding. Not his actual NBA business.

It’s just as bad, though. Maybe worse. Wouldn’t be surprised if they are telling him that he needs his own team, in a bigger market as it will be better for his brand.

Sure. They could also just be advising him on growing his Jui7e brand and helping him land more media opportunities. Just pointing out that Donda sports does not handle his basketball and there'd be no reason for the team to engage with them around trade talks.

The pessimistic speculation around Jaylen is starting to get weird.

All we can do is try and read the tea leaves. From a business standpoint, it makes sense for any player to want to be “The Man” on a team if they are trying to build their brand/business. I also don’t recall many (if any) instances where JB had mentioned that he loves being in Boston.

"“I’ve been in Boston for five years, and I’m a Bostonian now in a sense,” Brown told reporters Saturday. “It’s a major time of my life I’ve spent in Boston now. I’m trying to be a part of the solutions and not the problems here, and trying to see where I can help out because it takes a community, and I’m trying to be a part of this community."

https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2020/12/12/jaylen-brown-bostonian-of-year-celtics/

That took all of 5 seconds to google search.

There are no tea leaves. I don't believe that Jaylen is disgruntled because of a liked tweet or that he took a picture with Kyrie. There's been zero reports that he told management he's not resigning in 2 years - that's all made up conjecture by posters here. Even if he did want out, he's 2 years out from free agency. There's no way to predict what the free agency market looks like. Which teams have cap space? Are those rosters he's going to want to join? Is he going to get to free agency and realize that leaving a contender that can pay him the most money and has a coach he advocated for hiring isn't the best basketball decision?

Which part of that quote states that he loves being in Boston? He’s been in Boston for 5 years( well 7 considering the quote is from 2020) and he considers himself a Bostonian at this point. That doesn’t at all mean that he loves being in Boston in 2022. It could also take me 5 seconds to find a more recent quote like, “That trade talk was loud, and most of it came from Boston fans,” Brown told Yahoo Sports or when Brown Likes” on Twitter, as of Monday afternoon, included a tweet Sunday from user @BantonioClown that reads: “Jaylen Brown is so disrespected by Celtics fans.”

All we can do is speculate and I hope that I’m wrong in thinking that he doesn’t want to be in Boston long term. If your Brad, I don’t see why you would want to entertain these trade talks if JB wants to be here. Neither Stevens or anyone else from the Celtics have come out to say that the trade talks are untrue or said that JB is unavailable.

The idea that Brad will or can only trade Jaylen because it's an indication that Jaylen wants out is fundamentally flawed. At the end of the day, it's on Brad to build this team into a championship winner. He has to make the hard decisions. Even if I don't care for him, Kevin Durant is considered a top 3 player in the league. On paper, it's a huge upgrade. If Brad isn't willing to explore deals like this, he should step down because he's not doing his job - whether Jaylen is committed or not.

It's not as if the Celtics are actively shopping Jaylen to any team that will listen. This was a singular instance of a trade offer. It doesn't have to be as fatalistic as "Brad offered him, he's gone!" and quite as simple as Brad exploring the possibility of getting the team closer to a title.

It’s really not, though. This is what Danny Ainge thought about JB and I tend to agree with him. If JB wants to be in Boston he should be untouchable coming off a finals birth where he was the best player.

Former Celtics big man Kendrick Perkins recalled a phone call he had with Ainge last year amid those trade talks.

"I remember last year around this time when teams were calling about James Harden and Houston actually wanted Jaylen Brown," Perkins said Friday on Celtics Pregame Live. "I was on the phone with Danny Ainge for an hour, and I remember how our conversation went. He was like, 'Hey, Perk, would you trade Jaylen Brown for James Harden?' And I was like, 'Danny, you know how I feel about Jaylen Brown, but I would trade him for James Harden.' He was like, ' Are you kidding me? He's not going anywhere. He's not even 25 and he keeps getting better.'

"And then all of a sudden, Danny didn't make the trade, [Jaylen] made the All-Star team, had a breakout year, and now he just keeps getting better. Jaylen Brown is a true professional, he works hard, and people say he's under-appreciated, but I would say people appreciate him now."

While there's no denying Harden's status as one of the NBA's elite players, Brown only continues to improve with each season. He took another leap in 2020-21 with a career-high 24.7 points per game and 48.4 shooting percentage.

With Brown blossoming into one of the NBA's best, don't expect him to be involved in trade rumors any time soon. Sports Illustrated's Chris Mannix added that the Celtics -- now led in the front office by former head coach Brad Stevens -- aren't interested in shopping their prized wing.

"Boston's willingness to move Jaylen Brown has diminished significantly by the year, where once he would've been the centerpiece in say an Anthony Davis deal, now he's closing in on virtually untouchable status," Mannix said. "And that's a credit to Jaylen Brown's work ethic."[/b]

That was Danny. That's how he felt. And if Danny had the chance to get KD or his white whale, Anthony Davis, he would've driven Jaylen to the airport himself.

The case can be made that Danny's unwillingness to make bigger moves towards the end his tenure led to the issues that held this team back during the 2020-21 season. Brad has shown he has a completely different approach in how he values assets and team building. 

Again, there is a distinct difference between shopping Jaylen to multiple teams and offering him in a deal for a player of Durant's caliber. Jaylen could very well be nearly untouchable except for certain players. I personally think Durant is a malcontent and wouldn't trade for him at all, but I'd have no issue trading Jaylen for another major player.

Danny had the chance to land Harden who was coming off a 34.3pt/7.6reb/6.6ast season and won the MVP the year before. He was KD’s caliber at that time. Danny Still said no due to his age and potential fit. These are the same issues with Durant only worse as he’s older and often malcontent. If JB wants to be in Boston and Brad trades him for a 34 year old KD, that’s a huge mistake.

I'm not sure what you're arguing with me about at this point. I've already said I don't support the deal. But its not up to me or you if this deal happens. Brad's the GM and he has to make calls based on the bigger picture. And remember, Brad doesn't act singularly. If this offer was legit, that means he and ownership agreed that this was a  deal that could put us closer to a title and was worth pursuing. Doesn't mean JB is available to the other 28 teams.

I'm arguing that the only reason the Celtics management should consider trading JB is if they feel he doesn't want to be in Boston going forward. Like DA, I view JB as untouchable. He was the best player for the Celtics in the finals. You don't trade that guy if he wants to be here.

[nickagneta]

Seeing some major assumptions happening here, as well as negative feelings about Jaylen being projected into false realities.

So let me look at it from a different point of view.

This is old news. It is being leaked from Brooklyn. Yes, Brad called to see what the Nets wanted for KD and when Brad heard JB, the conversation went dark. Brooklyn sees Brown as their best target in a KD trade,so is leaking the story now while trying to make it sound recent, in order to push Brad back to the bargaining table.

Brown's "likes" on tweets is trolling because he has a weird sense of humor and his "SMH" tweet is because he knows the Nets leaked the story and not Brad because Brad told him week's ago about his discussions with the Nets and Brad assured him he will be a Celtic for life if that's what he wants

Makes as much sense as any other scenario out there that people are making assumptions about with what's happening right now.

[Goldstar88]

Seeing some major assumptions happening here, as well as negative feelings about Jaylen being projected into false realities.

So let me look at it from a different point of view.

This is old news. It is being linked from Brooklyn. Yes, Brad called to see what the Nets wanted for KD and when Brad heard JB, the conversation went dark. Brooklyn sees Brown as their best target in a KD trade,so is leaking the story now while trying to make it sound recent, in order to push Brad back to the bargaining table.

Brown's "likes" on tweets is trolling because he has a weird sense of humor and his "SMH" tweet is because he knows the Nets leaked the story and not Brad because Brad told him week's ago about his discussions with the Nets and Brad assured him he will be a Celtic for life if that's what he wants

Makes as much sense as any other scenario out there that people are making assumptions about what's happening right now.

So if you are the Celtics management, why not come out and say that JB is untouchable then? like the team has said regarding Tatum in the past. I would love for you to be right on this one, Nick.