Lebron calls Celtics fans racist

[gouki88]

One of the only thing good about getting older is knowing Lebron will soon be in the news a lot less.

Really? I think he'll find ways to remain in the spotlight. He craves it

LeBron can run around fantasizing that the the NBA is just going to give him an expansion club in Las Vegas, diluting profits for the remaining 30 teams and bringing the aggregate talent level down by adding yet another team. Even if they do expand, which obviously seems unlikely,  they’re not going to hand expansion clubs out for below market rates. The Rockets sold for $2.2 billion about half a decade ago, so why in the world would an expansion club sell for under $2 billion? Can you imagine the bidding war for an NBA expansion club in Vegas, or even Seattle (it seems quite unlikely that an expansion club in Seattle would not spark the interest of Bezos, Gates or another west coast tech titan, so that seems a safer bet than Vegas)? LeBron may be a made in China billionaire, but he’s not a liquid multi-billionaire and probably never will be. In other words, he’s soon going to be diminishing from the spotlight, just like Kobe in 2016-2019 and MJ before him. Out with the old, in with the new: That’s just the way of things in professional sports when you leave the playing field.

Kobe was still in the spotlight with his analysis for ESPN. MJ is still in the spotlight with Charlotte and his documentary + fashion. What separates LeBron is that a) I think he cares more for the spotlight, b) he has son(s) who may be headed for the NBA, who he might play with, and c) he is already a billionaire as a player AND has an interest in ownership.

I like the casual xenophobia in your post though. Charming little touch

There’s nothing xenophobic about opposing communist party-supplied/controlled labor that is essentially the 21st century version of slavery. There’s nothing xenophobic about turning one’s nose up at those in the West, or anywhere in the world, who are ”billionaires” because of this modern-day enslavement of 1+ billion Chinese people who yearn to be free. There’s nothing xenophobjc about calling them what they are: Made in China billionaires. The Communist Party of China imposes slavery and oppression on its people and, it is now documented, even commits genocide on certain ethnic minorities within mainland China (and would like to do so to the free Chinese in Taiwan just as they have recently done to the previously free Chinese in Hong Kong). All of this is far worse than anything happening in Boston, but where’s LeBron’s comments on those social injustices?

There is nothing xenophobic about saying shame on those who profit off modern-day slavery. They can still make decent profit margins off making their stuff in free countries like Taiwan, India, and the list goes on, so why do their prioritize their greed over human rights? Standing for freedom and human rights is not xenophobia.

We've already gone over your cluelessness about world politics in plenty of other threads, but if you think India is a free country then I seriously think you're no longer acting in good faith, or you live under a rock.

Go have a look at the treatment of the ~200 million Muslim Indians (and other non-Hindus) since Modi was elected. What China does is bad, but when India does it it's fine because they're not big scary commies, right?

India is a free and democratic country, certainly compared to communist party-controlled China. Admittedly I am not aware of every social injustice in India, but I certainly oppose systematic oppression wherever it resides and do not agree with doing business in such places, or at least doing so minimally to the most practical extent possible. The counter example of Taiwan stands, same goes for Japan and South Korea and on and on the list goes including countries throughout Africa and all of the Americas. There are plenty of places to build factories to benefit free people and still maintain healthy profit margins. One should not allow their greed to lead to doing deals with devils like the Communist Party of China, who have made it abundantly clear that they wish to see the Communist Party control all resources in the world by the turn of the century. It’s time to stop being conned by these devils, and see the world isolate them until they allow their people to be free, rather than allowing tragedies like Tiananmen Square to unfold daily and quietly. We tried normalizing trade relations in hopes they would become more free and liberal. It did not work. Time to try a different approach.



That image above? LeBron likes to market himself as if he’s like that guy, but what he really is, is a dude profiting off those tanks and that system, among the most oppressive in the world.

India actively tries to disenfranchise Muslims. So free, so democratic

[GreenlyGreeny]

One of the only thing good about getting older is knowing Lebron will soon be in the news a lot less.

Really? I think he'll find ways to remain in the spotlight. He craves it

LeBron can run around fantasizing that the the NBA is just going to give him an expansion club in Las Vegas, diluting profits for the remaining 30 teams and bringing the aggregate talent level down by adding yet another team. Even if they do expand, which obviously seems unlikely,  they’re not going to hand expansion clubs out for below market rates. The Rockets sold for $2.2 billion about half a decade ago, so why in the world would an expansion club sell for under $2 billion? Can you imagine the bidding war for an NBA expansion club in Vegas, or even Seattle (it seems quite unlikely that an expansion club in Seattle would not spark the interest of Bezos, Gates or another west coast tech titan, so that seems a safer bet than Vegas)? LeBron may be a made in China billionaire, but he’s not a liquid multi-billionaire and probably never will be. In other words, he’s soon going to be diminishing from the spotlight, just like Kobe in 2016-2019 and MJ before him. Out with the old, in with the new: That’s just the way of things in professional sports when you leave the playing field.

Kobe was still in the spotlight with his analysis for ESPN. MJ is still in the spotlight with Charlotte and his documentary + fashion. What separates LeBron is that a) I think he cares more for the spotlight, b) he has son(s) who may be headed for the NBA, who he might play with, and c) he is already a billionaire as a player AND has an interest in ownership.

I like the casual xenophobia in your post though. Charming little touch

There’s nothing xenophobic about opposing communist party-supplied/controlled labor that is essentially the 21st century version of slavery. There’s nothing xenophobic about turning one’s nose up at those in the West, or anywhere in the world, who are ”billionaires” because of this modern-day enslavement of 1+ billion Chinese people who yearn to be free. There’s nothing xenophobjc about calling them what they are: Made in China billionaires. The Communist Party of China imposes slavery and oppression on its people and, it is now documented, even commits genocide on certain ethnic minorities within mainland China (and would like to do so to the free Chinese in Taiwan just as they have recently done to the previously free Chinese in Hong Kong). All of this is far worse than anything happening in Boston, but where’s LeBron’s comments on those social injustices?

There is nothing xenophobic about saying shame on those who profit off modern-day slavery. They can still make decent profit margins off making their stuff in free countries like Taiwan, India, and the list goes on, so why do their prioritize their greed over human rights? Standing for freedom and human rights is not xenophobia.

We've already gone over your cluelessness about world politics in plenty of other threads, but if you think India is a free country then I seriously think you're no longer acting in good faith, or you live under a rock.

Go have a look at the treatment of the ~200 million Muslim Indians (and other non-Hindus) since Modi was elected. What China does is bad, but when India does it it's fine because they're not big scary commies, right?

India is a free and democratic country, certainly compared to communist party-controlled China. Admittedly I am not aware of every social injustice in India, but I certainly oppose systematic oppression wherever it resides and do not agree with doing business in such places, or at least doing so minimally to the most practical extent possible. The counter example of Taiwan stands, same goes for Japan and South Korea and on and on the list goes including countries throughout Africa and all of the Americas. There are plenty of places to build factories to benefit free people and still maintain healthy profit margins. One should not allow their greed to lead to doing deals with devils like the Communist Party of China, who have made it abundantly clear that they wish to see the Communist Party control all resources in the world by the turn of the century. It’s time to stop being conned by these devils, and see the world isolate them until they allow their people to be free, rather than allowing tragedies like Tiananmen Square to unfold daily and quietly. We tried normalizing trade relations in hopes they would become more free and liberal. It did not work. Time to try a different approach.



That image above? LeBron likes to market himself as if he’s like that guy, but what he really is, is a dude profiting off those tanks and that system, among the most oppressive in the world.

India actively tries to disenfranchise Muslims. So free, so democratic

What does India have to do with LeBron and LeBron’s constant calls for social change while LeBron ignores some of the most appalling social injustices in the 21st century in communist-controlled China simply because that’s an inconvenience to LeBron’s business interests?

We get it that LeBron has a lot of problems with social injustices in America. So do most of us good people in America. But why does LeBron never comment on all of the genocide and slavery in communist-controlled China? Certainly seems more relevant to 2022 than American slavery in 1864, particularly when American billionaires like LeBron are profiting off business engagements in communist-controlled China in 2022?

That’s the only reason I’ve brought up all of this. It’s a bit odd seeing LeBron say Boston is full of racists, in contrast to his 2017 comments. He’s trying to convince JT/JB to leave Boston. That’s what he’s really up to with this nonsense. Some of us are tiring of LeBron’s nonsense now that he’s officially a made in China billionaire. Talk to us about your views on social injustice when you decide to no longer have business interests in communist-controlled China, LeBron. Until then, people who care about addressing social injustices around the world will turn to others for real leadership.

[GreenlyGreeny]

Sorry for getting so worked up, but I see ulterior motives in LeBron’s latest comments (he wants to break up our dynasty-in-the-making), and I’ve had enough of that guy’s enormous hypocrisy. It’s long past time for everyone to tell him to stop doing business in communist-controlled China or stop talking about social injustices because nobody can really care about social injustices while profiting off communist-controlled/supplied labor.

[Moranis]

Lebron is an American, and like most Americans, he doesn't really care what happens in other countries.

I mean a part-owner of the Warriors described that concept quite well a few months back 

https://www.npr.org/2022/01/17/1073705516/co-owner-of-the-nbas-warriors-lambasted-after-saying-nobody-cares-about-the-uygh

"Nobody cares about what's happening to the Uyghurs, okay. You bring it up because you really care, and I think it's nice that you really care, the rest of us don't care," said Palihapitiya, who is also on the board of Virgin Galactic. "I'm just telling you a very hard, ugly truth. Of all the things I care about, yes, it's below my line."

"If you're asking me do I care about a segment of a class of people in another country? Not until we can take care of ourselves will I prioritize them over us," he said.

He tried to walk it back, but it is probably a pretty commonly held view by most Americans (and frankly most people anywhere in the world) i.e. we have enough problems of our own to worry about the problems of other people.  It doesn't make it right, but that quite simply is human nature.

[GreenlyGreeny]

Lebron is an American, and like most Americans, he doesn't really care what happens in other countries.

I mean a part-owner of the Warriors described that concept quite well a few months back 

https://www.npr.org/2022/01/17/1073705516/co-owner-of-the-nbas-warriors-lambasted-after-saying-nobody-cares-about-the-uygh

"Nobody cares about what's happening to the Uyghurs, okay. You bring it up because you really care, and I think it's nice that you really care, the rest of us don't care," said Palihapitiya, who is also on the board of Virgin Galactic. "I'm just telling you a very hard, ugly truth. Of all the things I care about, yes, it's below my line."

"If you're asking me do I care about a segment of a class of people in another country? Not until we can take care of ourselves will I prioritize them over us," he said.

He tried to walk it back, but it is probably a pretty commonly held view by most Americans (and frankly most people anywhere in the world) i.e. we have enough problems of our own to worry about the problems of other people.  It doesn't make it right, but that quite simply is human nature.

The counter: Americans profiting off slavery and genocide in communist-controlled China is directly contributing to income/wealth-inequality in the USA, so this is very much a problem and hypocrisy that can no longer be ignored in America. The communists in China trade their currency for USD with American business interests so those business interests can produce items in communist-controlled China and turn around and sell the products for huge profit margins in America. That’s one dynamic. Another is the communists in China turn-around and do a great deal of spending of USD in America to exacerbate social problems in the USA rather than being motivated by profit-margins (e.g., drive up real estate and education prices with huge spikes in demand, so many working Americans can no longer afford housing/higher education—leading to deaths of despair, crime, extreme poverty and more).

BTW, the above disproportionally affects African-Americans in 2022. So yes, Americans profiting off communist-controlled China by making literal deals with the devil is a domestic problem and a hypocrisy that LeBron can no longer stay silent on. His business interests in communist-controlled China are contributing to social injustices in America. That is certainly a bigger issue to talk about than some idiot(s) in the Garden yelling racial epithets. Just because most cannot connect the dots does not mean the dots are not there. Some of us are absolutely sick of this guy’s hypocrisy. Stop talking about how you’re here to solve social problems, LeBron, when your greed is causing some of the very problems you rail against. If you really want to help, stop doing business in communist-controlled China. This applies to anybody in America who cares about social justice at home and abroad: Stop producing and consuming products made in communist-controlled China.

[nickagneta]

Lebron is an American, and like most Americans, he doesn't really care what happens in other countries.

I mean a part-owner of the Warriors described that concept quite well a few months back 

https://www.npr.org/2022/01/17/1073705516/co-owner-of-the-nbas-warriors-lambasted-after-saying-nobody-cares-about-the-uygh

"Nobody cares about what's happening to the Uyghurs, okay. You bring it up because you really care, and I think it's nice that you really care, the rest of us don't care," said Palihapitiya, who is also on the board of Virgin Galactic. "I'm just telling you a very hard, ugly truth. Of all the things I care about, yes, it's below my line."

"If you're asking me do I care about a segment of a class of people in another country? Not until we can take care of ourselves will I prioritize them over us," he said.

He tried to walk it back, but it is probably a pretty commonly held view by most Americans (and frankly most people anywhere in the world) i.e. we have enough problems of our own to worry about the problems of other people.  It doesn't make it right, but that quite simply is human nature.

Gotta agree with Mo, here.

Plus, there is no law saying people must comment on everything that happens everywhere in the world. I have opinions on tons of things, but if asked about one of those things there's no law saying I have to answer.

[Moranis]

Lebron is an American, and like most Americans, he doesn't really care what happens in other countries.

I mean a part-owner of the Warriors described that concept quite well a few months back 

https://www.npr.org/2022/01/17/1073705516/co-owner-of-the-nbas-warriors-lambasted-after-saying-nobody-cares-about-the-uygh

"Nobody cares about what's happening to the Uyghurs, okay. You bring it up because you really care, and I think it's nice that you really care, the rest of us don't care," said Palihapitiya, who is also on the board of Virgin Galactic. "I'm just telling you a very hard, ugly truth. Of all the things I care about, yes, it's below my line."

"If you're asking me do I care about a segment of a class of people in another country? Not until we can take care of ourselves will I prioritize them over us," he said.

He tried to walk it back, but it is probably a pretty commonly held view by most Americans (and frankly most people anywhere in the world) i.e. we have enough problems of our own to worry about the problems of other people.  It doesn't make it right, but that quite simply is human nature.

Gotta agree with Mo, here.

Plus, there is no law saying people must comment on everything that happens everywhere in the world. I have opinions on tons of things, but if asked about one of those things there's no law saying I have to answer.

And that was from, Palihapitiya, who is the son of refugees who was born in Sri Lanka.  If anyone in a position of influence could understand those issues, it would be him.  It is fun to hold Lebron to different standards than we hold others because then it just gives more reasons to not like him.

As for the Celtics fans, I watched the minute clip, it comes off a lot differently in writing then if you listen to it.  A lot of that is prodding from the other people in the Shop. 

[gouki88]

One of the only thing good about getting older is knowing Lebron will soon be in the news a lot less.

Really? I think he'll find ways to remain in the spotlight. He craves it

LeBron can run around fantasizing that the the NBA is just going to give him an expansion club in Las Vegas, diluting profits for the remaining 30 teams and bringing the aggregate talent level down by adding yet another team. Even if they do expand, which obviously seems unlikely,  they’re not going to hand expansion clubs out for below market rates. The Rockets sold for $2.2 billion about half a decade ago, so why in the world would an expansion club sell for under $2 billion? Can you imagine the bidding war for an NBA expansion club in Vegas, or even Seattle (it seems quite unlikely that an expansion club in Seattle would not spark the interest of Bezos, Gates or another west coast tech titan, so that seems a safer bet than Vegas)? LeBron may be a made in China billionaire, but he’s not a liquid multi-billionaire and probably never will be. In other words, he’s soon going to be diminishing from the spotlight, just like Kobe in 2016-2019 and MJ before him. Out with the old, in with the new: That’s just the way of things in professional sports when you leave the playing field.

Kobe was still in the spotlight with his analysis for ESPN. MJ is still in the spotlight with Charlotte and his documentary + fashion. What separates LeBron is that a) I think he cares more for the spotlight, b) he has son(s) who may be headed for the NBA, who he might play with, and c) he is already a billionaire as a player AND has an interest in ownership.

I like the casual xenophobia in your post though. Charming little touch

There’s nothing xenophobic about opposing communist party-supplied/controlled labor that is essentially the 21st century version of slavery. There’s nothing xenophobic about turning one’s nose up at those in the West, or anywhere in the world, who are ”billionaires” because of this modern-day enslavement of 1+ billion Chinese people who yearn to be free. There’s nothing xenophobjc about calling them what they are: Made in China billionaires. The Communist Party of China imposes slavery and oppression on its people and, it is now documented, even commits genocide on certain ethnic minorities within mainland China (and would like to do so to the free Chinese in Taiwan just as they have recently done to the previously free Chinese in Hong Kong). All of this is far worse than anything happening in Boston, but where’s LeBron’s comments on those social injustices?

There is nothing xenophobic about saying shame on those who profit off modern-day slavery. They can still make decent profit margins off making their stuff in free countries like Taiwan, India, and the list goes on, so why do their prioritize their greed over human rights? Standing for freedom and human rights is not xenophobia.

We've already gone over your cluelessness about world politics in plenty of other threads, but if you think India is a free country then I seriously think you're no longer acting in good faith, or you live under a rock.

Go have a look at the treatment of the ~200 million Muslim Indians (and other non-Hindus) since Modi was elected. What China does is bad, but when India does it it's fine because they're not big scary commies, right?

India is a free and democratic country, certainly compared to communist party-controlled China. Admittedly I am not aware of every social injustice in India, but I certainly oppose systematic oppression wherever it resides and do not agree with doing business in such places, or at least doing so minimally to the most practical extent possible. The counter example of Taiwan stands, same goes for Japan and South Korea and on and on the list goes including countries throughout Africa and all of the Americas. There are plenty of places to build factories to benefit free people and still maintain healthy profit margins. One should not allow their greed to lead to doing deals with devils like the Communist Party of China, who have made it abundantly clear that they wish to see the Communist Party control all resources in the world by the turn of the century. It’s time to stop being conned by these devils, and see the world isolate them until they allow their people to be free, rather than allowing tragedies like Tiananmen Square to unfold daily and quietly. We tried normalizing trade relations in hopes they would become more free and liberal. It did not work. Time to try a different approach.



That image above? LeBron likes to market himself as if he’s like that guy, but what he really is, is a dude profiting off those tanks and that system, among the most oppressive in the world.

India actively tries to disenfranchise Muslims. So free, so democratic

What does India have to do with LeBron and LeBron’s constant calls for social change while LeBron ignores some of the most appalling social injustices in the 21st century in communist-controlled China simply because that’s an inconvenience to LeBron’s business interests?

We get it that LeBron has a lot of problems with social injustices in America. So do most of us good people in America. But why does LeBron never comment on all of the genocide and slavery in communist-controlled China? Certainly seems more relevant to 2022 than American slavery in 1864, particularly when American billionaires like LeBron are profiting off business engagements in communist-controlled China in 2022?

That’s the only reason I’ve brought up all of this. It’s a bit odd seeing LeBron say Boston is full of racists, in contrast to his 2017 comments. He’s trying to convince JT/JB to leave Boston. That’s what he’s really up to with this nonsense. Some of us are tiring of LeBron’s nonsense now that he’s officially a made in China billionaire. Talk to us about your views on social injustice when you decide to no longer have business interests in communist-controlled China, LeBron. Until then, people who care about addressing social injustices around the world will turn to others for real leadership.

The exact same hypocrisy you're getting so worked up about from LeBron is the one you are displaying right now with India/China. Accept it

[Roy H.]

One of the only thing good about getting older is knowing Lebron will soon be in the news a lot less.

Really? I think he'll find ways to remain in the spotlight. He craves it

LeBron can run around fantasizing that the the NBA is just going to give him an expansion club in Las Vegas, diluting profits for the remaining 30 teams and bringing the aggregate talent level down by adding yet another team. Even if they do expand, which obviously seems unlikely,  they’re not going to hand expansion clubs out for below market rates. The Rockets sold for $2.2 billion about half a decade ago, so why in the world would an expansion club sell for under $2 billion? Can you imagine the bidding war for an NBA expansion club in Vegas, or even Seattle (it seems quite unlikely that an expansion club in Seattle would not spark the interest of Bezos, Gates or another west coast tech titan, so that seems a safer bet than Vegas)? LeBron may be a made in China billionaire, but he’s not a liquid multi-billionaire and probably never will be. In other words, he’s soon going to be diminishing from the spotlight, just like Kobe in 2016-2019 and MJ before him. Out with the old, in with the new: That’s just the way of things in professional sports when you leave the playing field.

Kobe was still in the spotlight with his analysis for ESPN. MJ is still in the spotlight with Charlotte and his documentary + fashion. What separates LeBron is that a) I think he cares more for the spotlight, b) he has son(s) who may be headed for the NBA, who he might play with, and c) he is already a billionaire as a player AND has an interest in ownership.

I like the casual xenophobia in your post though. Charming little touch

There’s nothing xenophobic about opposing communist party-supplied/controlled labor that is essentially the 21st century version of slavery. There’s nothing xenophobic about turning one’s nose up at those in the West, or anywhere in the world, who are ”billionaires” because of this modern-day enslavement of 1+ billion Chinese people who yearn to be free. There’s nothing xenophobjc about calling them what they are: Made in China billionaires. The Communist Party of China imposes slavery and oppression on its people and, it is now documented, even commits genocide on certain ethnic minorities within mainland China (and would like to do so to the free Chinese in Taiwan just as they have recently done to the previously free Chinese in Hong Kong). All of this is far worse than anything happening in Boston, but where’s LeBron’s comments on those social injustices?

There is nothing xenophobic about saying shame on those who profit off modern-day slavery. They can still make decent profit margins off making their stuff in free countries like Taiwan, India, and the list goes on, so why do their prioritize their greed over human rights? Standing for freedom and human rights is not xenophobia.

We've already gone over your cluelessness about world politics in plenty of other threads, but if you think India is a free country then I seriously think you're no longer acting in good faith, or you live under a rock.

Go have a look at the treatment of the ~200 million Muslim Indians (and other non-Hindus) since Modi was elected. What China does is bad, but when India does it it's fine because they're not big scary commies, right?

India is a free and democratic country, certainly compared to communist party-controlled China. Admittedly I am not aware of every social injustice in India, but I certainly oppose systematic oppression wherever it resides and do not agree with doing business in such places, or at least doing so minimally to the most practical extent possible. The counter example of Taiwan stands, same goes for Japan and South Korea and on and on the list goes including countries throughout Africa and all of the Americas. There are plenty of places to build factories to benefit free people and still maintain healthy profit margins. One should not allow their greed to lead to doing deals with devils like the Communist Party of China, who have made it abundantly clear that they wish to see the Communist Party control all resources in the world by the turn of the century. It’s time to stop being conned by these devils, and see the world isolate them until they allow their people to be free, rather than allowing tragedies like Tiananmen Square to unfold daily and quietly. We tried normalizing trade relations in hopes they would become more free and liberal. It did not work. Time to try a different approach.



That image above? LeBron likes to market himself as if he’s like that guy, but what he really is, is a dude profiting off those tanks and that system, among the most oppressive in the world.

India actively tries to disenfranchise Muslims. So free, so democratic

What does India have to do with LeBron and LeBron’s constant calls for social change while LeBron ignores some of the most appalling social injustices in the 21st century in communist-controlled China simply because that’s an inconvenience to LeBron’s business interests?

We get it that LeBron has a lot of problems with social injustices in America. So do most of us good people in America. But why does LeBron never comment on all of the genocide and slavery in communist-controlled China? Certainly seems more relevant to 2022 than American slavery in 1864, particularly when American billionaires like LeBron are profiting off business engagements in communist-controlled China in 2022?

That’s the only reason I’ve brought up all of this. It’s a bit odd seeing LeBron say Boston is full of racists, in contrast to his 2017 comments. He’s trying to convince JT/JB to leave Boston. That’s what he’s really up to with this nonsense. Some of us are tiring of LeBron’s nonsense now that he’s officially a made in China billionaire. Talk to us about your views on social injustice when you decide to no longer have business interests in communist-controlled China, LeBron. Until then, people who care about addressing social injustices around the world will turn to others for real leadership.

The exact same hypocrisy you're getting so worked up about from LeBron is the one you are displaying right now with India/China. Accept it

Is it?  I would see it being hypocritical if Greenly was making hundreds of millions of dollars off of Indian rights abuses, particularly if he then publicly told reporters that you were uneducated and misinformed when you spoke up about some of those abuses.

[pokeKingCurtis]

The issue is, Lebron calls Boston fans extremely racist, but his examples don’t cite race.  He complains about a beer poured on him 10 years ago (classless and assaultive, but not inherently racist), and about fans wearing “ F—- LBJ” shirts.

Yes. This.  That's what I looked for, too.  If I hate leBUM, which I do, and tell him to go F himself, that is not racist because I'm not saying it because he's black.  I'm saying it because he's a POS whom I hate.  Why?  Because he did the BS with The Decision and took his talents to Miami and f'd over Cleveland.  That has never sit right with me and never will.  Just like Traitor Ray.  I'll never forgive.   I think leBUM's the racist.  Shut up and dribble, leBUM.

I feel like his ego is so out of whack he just can't tell the difference.

[tenn_smoothie]

One of the only thing good about getting older is knowing Lebron will soon be in the news a lot less.

Really? I think he'll find ways to remain in the spotlight. He craves it

LeBron can run around fantasizing that the the NBA is just going to give him an expansion club in Las Vegas, diluting profits for the remaining 30 teams and bringing the aggregate talent level down by adding yet another team. Even if they do expand, which obviously seems unlikely,  they’re not going to hand expansion clubs out for below market rates. The Rockets sold for $2.2 billion about half a decade ago, so why in the world would an expansion club sell for under $2 billion? Can you imagine the bidding war for an NBA expansion club in Vegas, or even Seattle (it seems quite unlikely that an expansion club in Seattle would not spark the interest of Bezos, Gates or another west coast tech titan, so that seems a safer bet than Vegas)? LeBron may be a made in China billionaire, but he’s not a liquid multi-billionaire and probably never will be. In other words, he’s soon going to be diminishing from the spotlight, just like Kobe in 2016-2019 and MJ before him. Out with the old, in with the new: That’s just the way of things in professional sports when you leave the playing field.

I like the casual xenophobia in your post though. Charming little touch

Gawd, you are a pompous ass, Gouki.

[gouki88]

One of the only thing good about getting older is knowing Lebron will soon be in the news a lot less.

Really? I think he'll find ways to remain in the spotlight. He craves it

LeBron can run around fantasizing that the the NBA is just going to give him an expansion club in Las Vegas, diluting profits for the remaining 30 teams and bringing the aggregate talent level down by adding yet another team. Even if they do expand, which obviously seems unlikely,  they’re not going to hand expansion clubs out for below market rates. The Rockets sold for $2.2 billion about half a decade ago, so why in the world would an expansion club sell for under $2 billion? Can you imagine the bidding war for an NBA expansion club in Vegas, or even Seattle (it seems quite unlikely that an expansion club in Seattle would not spark the interest of Bezos, Gates or another west coast tech titan, so that seems a safer bet than Vegas)? LeBron may be a made in China billionaire, but he’s not a liquid multi-billionaire and probably never will be. In other words, he’s soon going to be diminishing from the spotlight, just like Kobe in 2016-2019 and MJ before him. Out with the old, in with the new: That’s just the way of things in professional sports when you leave the playing field.

I like the casual xenophobia in your post though. Charming little touch

Gawd, you are a pompous ass, Gouki.

If it's pompous to call out xenophobia, then sure.

I'd rather be pompous than racist, personally

[gouki88]

One of the only thing good about getting older is knowing Lebron will soon be in the news a lot less.

Really? I think he'll find ways to remain in the spotlight. He craves it

LeBron can run around fantasizing that the the NBA is just going to give him an expansion club in Las Vegas, diluting profits for the remaining 30 teams and bringing the aggregate talent level down by adding yet another team. Even if they do expand, which obviously seems unlikely,  they’re not going to hand expansion clubs out for below market rates. The Rockets sold for $2.2 billion about half a decade ago, so why in the world would an expansion club sell for under $2 billion? Can you imagine the bidding war for an NBA expansion club in Vegas, or even Seattle (it seems quite unlikely that an expansion club in Seattle would not spark the interest of Bezos, Gates or another west coast tech titan, so that seems a safer bet than Vegas)? LeBron may be a made in China billionaire, but he’s not a liquid multi-billionaire and probably never will be. In other words, he’s soon going to be diminishing from the spotlight, just like Kobe in 2016-2019 and MJ before him. Out with the old, in with the new: That’s just the way of things in professional sports when you leave the playing field.

Kobe was still in the spotlight with his analysis for ESPN. MJ is still in the spotlight with Charlotte and his documentary + fashion. What separates LeBron is that a) I think he cares more for the spotlight, b) he has son(s) who may be headed for the NBA, who he might play with, and c) he is already a billionaire as a player AND has an interest in ownership.

I like the casual xenophobia in your post though. Charming little touch

There’s nothing xenophobic about opposing communist party-supplied/controlled labor that is essentially the 21st century version of slavery. There’s nothing xenophobic about turning one’s nose up at those in the West, or anywhere in the world, who are ”billionaires” because of this modern-day enslavement of 1+ billion Chinese people who yearn to be free. There’s nothing xenophobjc about calling them what they are: Made in China billionaires. The Communist Party of China imposes slavery and oppression on its people and, it is now documented, even commits genocide on certain ethnic minorities within mainland China (and would like to do so to the free Chinese in Taiwan just as they have recently done to the previously free Chinese in Hong Kong). All of this is far worse than anything happening in Boston, but where’s LeBron’s comments on those social injustices?

There is nothing xenophobic about saying shame on those who profit off modern-day slavery. They can still make decent profit margins off making their stuff in free countries like Taiwan, India, and the list goes on, so why do their prioritize their greed over human rights? Standing for freedom and human rights is not xenophobia.

We've already gone over your cluelessness about world politics in plenty of other threads, but if you think India is a free country then I seriously think you're no longer acting in good faith, or you live under a rock.

Go have a look at the treatment of the ~200 million Muslim Indians (and other non-Hindus) since Modi was elected. What China does is bad, but when India does it it's fine because they're not big scary commies, right?

India is a free and democratic country, certainly compared to communist party-controlled China. Admittedly I am not aware of every social injustice in India, but I certainly oppose systematic oppression wherever it resides and do not agree with doing business in such places, or at least doing so minimally to the most practical extent possible. The counter example of Taiwan stands, same goes for Japan and South Korea and on and on the list goes including countries throughout Africa and all of the Americas. There are plenty of places to build factories to benefit free people and still maintain healthy profit margins. One should not allow their greed to lead to doing deals with devils like the Communist Party of China, who have made it abundantly clear that they wish to see the Communist Party control all resources in the world by the turn of the century. It’s time to stop being conned by these devils, and see the world isolate them until they allow their people to be free, rather than allowing tragedies like Tiananmen Square to unfold daily and quietly. We tried normalizing trade relations in hopes they would become more free and liberal. It did not work. Time to try a different approach.



That image above? LeBron likes to market himself as if he’s like that guy, but what he really is, is a dude profiting off those tanks and that system, among the most oppressive in the world.

India actively tries to disenfranchise Muslims. So free, so democratic

What does India have to do with LeBron and LeBron’s constant calls for social change while LeBron ignores some of the most appalling social injustices in the 21st century in communist-controlled China simply because that’s an inconvenience to LeBron’s business interests?

We get it that LeBron has a lot of problems with social injustices in America. So do most of us good people in America. But why does LeBron never comment on all of the genocide and slavery in communist-controlled China? Certainly seems more relevant to 2022 than American slavery in 1864, particularly when American billionaires like LeBron are profiting off business engagements in communist-controlled China in 2022?

That’s the only reason I’ve brought up all of this. It’s a bit odd seeing LeBron say Boston is full of racists, in contrast to his 2017 comments. He’s trying to convince JT/JB to leave Boston. That’s what he’s really up to with this nonsense. Some of us are tiring of LeBron’s nonsense now that he’s officially a made in China billionaire. Talk to us about your views on social injustice when you decide to no longer have business interests in communist-controlled China, LeBron. Until then, people who care about addressing social injustices around the world will turn to others for real leadership.

The exact same hypocrisy you're getting so worked up about from LeBron is the one you are displaying right now with India/China. Accept it

Is it?  I would see it being hypocritical if Greenly was making hundreds of millions of dollars off of Indian rights abuses, particularly if he then publicly told reporters that you were uneducated and misinformed when you spoke up about some of those abuses.

Same principle, different extent. Greenly is getting mad about certain rights being infringed upon by the Chinese government, but lauds the Indian government as free and democratic despite it behaving in the exact same manner.

Picking and choosing which human rights violations matter because of the ideology of the perpetrator is weird.

[kraidstar]

One of the only thing good about getting older is knowing Lebron will soon be in the news a lot less.

Really? I think he'll find ways to remain in the spotlight. He craves it

LeBron can run around fantasizing that the the NBA is just going to give him an expansion club in Las Vegas, diluting profits for the remaining 30 teams and bringing the aggregate talent level down by adding yet another team. Even if they do expand, which obviously seems unlikely,  they’re not going to hand expansion clubs out for below market rates. The Rockets sold for $2.2 billion about half a decade ago, so why in the world would an expansion club sell for under $2 billion? Can you imagine the bidding war for an NBA expansion club in Vegas, or even Seattle (it seems quite unlikely that an expansion club in Seattle would not spark the interest of Bezos, Gates or another west coast tech titan, so that seems a safer bet than Vegas)? LeBron may be a made in China billionaire, but he’s not a liquid multi-billionaire and probably never will be. In other words, he’s soon going to be diminishing from the spotlight, just like Kobe in 2016-2019 and MJ before him. Out with the old, in with the new: That’s just the way of things in professional sports when you leave the playing field.

Kobe was still in the spotlight with his analysis for ESPN. MJ is still in the spotlight with Charlotte and his documentary + fashion. What separates LeBron is that a) I think he cares more for the spotlight, b) he has son(s) who may be headed for the NBA, who he might play with, and c) he is already a billionaire as a player AND has an interest in ownership.

I like the casual xenophobia in your post though. Charming little touch

There’s nothing xenophobic about opposing communist party-supplied/controlled labor that is essentially the 21st century version of slavery. There’s nothing xenophobic about turning one’s nose up at those in the West, or anywhere in the world, who are ”billionaires” because of this modern-day enslavement of 1+ billion Chinese people who yearn to be free. There’s nothing xenophobjc about calling them what they are: Made in China billionaires. The Communist Party of China imposes slavery and oppression on its people and, it is now documented, even commits genocide on certain ethnic minorities within mainland China (and would like to do so to the free Chinese in Taiwan just as they have recently done to the previously free Chinese in Hong Kong). All of this is far worse than anything happening in Boston, but where’s LeBron’s comments on those social injustices?

There is nothing xenophobic about saying shame on those who profit off modern-day slavery. They can still make decent profit margins off making their stuff in free countries like Taiwan, India, and the list goes on, so why do their prioritize their greed over human rights? Standing for freedom and human rights is not xenophobia.

We've already gone over your cluelessness about world politics in plenty of other threads, but if you think India is a free country then I seriously think you're no longer acting in good faith, or you live under a rock.

Go have a look at the treatment of the ~200 million Muslim Indians (and other non-Hindus) since Modi was elected. What China does is bad, but when India does it it's fine because they're not big scary commies, right?

India is a free and democratic country, certainly compared to communist party-controlled China. Admittedly I am not aware of every social injustice in India, but I certainly oppose systematic oppression wherever it resides and do not agree with doing business in such places, or at least doing so minimally to the most practical extent possible. The counter example of Taiwan stands, same goes for Japan and South Korea and on and on the list goes including countries throughout Africa and all of the Americas. There are plenty of places to build factories to benefit free people and still maintain healthy profit margins. One should not allow their greed to lead to doing deals with devils like the Communist Party of China, who have made it abundantly clear that they wish to see the Communist Party control all resources in the world by the turn of the century. It’s time to stop being conned by these devils, and see the world isolate them until they allow their people to be free, rather than allowing tragedies like Tiananmen Square to unfold daily and quietly. We tried normalizing trade relations in hopes they would become more free and liberal. It did not work. Time to try a different approach.



That image above? LeBron likes to market himself as if he’s like that guy, but what he really is, is a dude profiting off those tanks and that system, among the most oppressive in the world.

India actively tries to disenfranchise Muslims. So free, so democratic

What does India have to do with LeBron and LeBron’s constant calls for social change while LeBron ignores some of the most appalling social injustices in the 21st century in communist-controlled China simply because that’s an inconvenience to LeBron’s business interests?

We get it that LeBron has a lot of problems with social injustices in America. So do most of us good people in America. But why does LeBron never comment on all of the genocide and slavery in communist-controlled China? Certainly seems more relevant to 2022 than American slavery in 1864, particularly when American billionaires like LeBron are profiting off business engagements in communist-controlled China in 2022?

That’s the only reason I’ve brought up all of this. It’s a bit odd seeing LeBron say Boston is full of racists, in contrast to his 2017 comments. He’s trying to convince JT/JB to leave Boston. That’s what he’s really up to with this nonsense. Some of us are tiring of LeBron’s nonsense now that he’s officially a made in China billionaire. Talk to us about your views on social injustice when you decide to no longer have business interests in communist-controlled China, LeBron. Until then, people who care about addressing social injustices around the world will turn to others for real leadership.

The exact same hypocrisy you're getting so worked up about from LeBron is the one you are displaying right now with India/China. Accept it

Is it?  I would see it being hypocritical if Greenly was making hundreds of millions of dollars off of Indian rights abuses, particularly if he then publicly told reporters that you were uneducated and misinformed when you spoke up about some of those abuses.

Same principle, different extent. Greenly is getting mad about certain rights being infringed upon by the Chinese government, but lauds the Indian government as free and democratic despite it behaving in the exact same manner.

Picking and choosing which human rights violations matter because of the ideology of the perpetrator is weird.

I get your point but let's get real here. Xi Jinping is a LOT worse than Modi. He is a full-blown dictator and will likely remain President for the rest of his life.

Under his leadership China has gone full Orwell lately with their digital surveillance and total control of their people. The dysfunction we're seeing in India would never happen in China because anyone who so much as whispers against the government is imprisoned or worse.

Modi is a bigot but he lacks the frightening level of control that China's government possesses.

[tenn_smoothie]

One of the only thing good about getting older is knowing Lebron will soon be in the news a lot less.

Really? I think he'll find ways to remain in the spotlight. He craves it

LeBron can run around fantasizing that the the NBA is just going to give him an expansion club in Las Vegas, diluting profits for the remaining 30 teams and bringing the aggregate talent level down by adding yet another team. Even if they do expand, which obviously seems unlikely,  they’re not going to hand expansion clubs out for below market rates. The Rockets sold for $2.2 billion about half a decade ago, so why in the world would an expansion club sell for under $2 billion? Can you imagine the bidding war for an NBA expansion club in Vegas, or even Seattle (it seems quite unlikely that an expansion club in Seattle would not spark the interest of Bezos, Gates or another west coast tech titan, so that seems a safer bet than Vegas)? LeBron may be a made in China billionaire, but he’s not a liquid multi-billionaire and probably never will be. In other words, he’s soon going to be diminishing from the spotlight, just like Kobe in 2016-2019 and MJ before him. Out with the old, in with the new: That’s just the way of things in professional sports when you leave the playing field.

I like the casual xenophobia in your post though. Charming little touch

Gawd, you are a pompous ass, Gouki.

If it's pompous to call out xenophobia, then sure.

I'd rather be pompous than racist, personally

typical slimy comment by you................. and who are you accusing of being racist
and what facts do you base this self-righteous opinion on ?