JD Davison will not be rookie of the year.

[libermaniac]

The guy that JD reminds me of right now:  Marcus Banks.

Perfectly acceptable career outcome for pick 53. Not for pick 13, ahead of David West, Leandro Barbosa, Boris Diaw, Perk and Luke Ridnour in the first round.

 Much more athletic than Banks, better passer too, his shot blocking skill is very rare for a guard.

Again, time will tell, but so far I’ve heard the kid has:

Elite athleticism
Very good to excellent size
Very good to excellent passing
Very good to excellent basketball IQ
Very good to excellent rebounding
A game reminiscent of Westbrook

The question I’m wondering is, if this stuff is so obvious, why did 52 guys get picked ahead of him?

Considering this team's recent track record in the 2nd round, chances are he's not going to make it. But to me he looked decent in his first game and I'm looking forward to watching him develop.

I definitely hope he makes it, and drafting for upside at #53 makes a ton of sense to me.

The hyperbole just cracks me up.  If Davison has the present day skills that some Celtics fans say he does, he should have dominated the SEC at the very least, and been a top-20 pick.  Some seemingly are under the belief that he's polished at everything other than shooting, which isn't my impression.

I don’t think anyone would argue that he has those present day skills. His shot and decision making have a long way to go.  But, he has the physical tools which makes the speculation fun. He’s a low floor / high ceiling kind of guy. I think when people post with optimism the are seeing the glimpses of what might be in the future.

That’s definitely more fun that the safer guys with less upside that Ainge used to take, like Gomes, Powe, Harongody, Nader, Demetrius Jackson, Carson Edwards, etc.

[pokeKingCurtis]

The guy that JD reminds me of right now:  Marcus Banks.

Perfectly acceptable career outcome for pick 53. Not for pick 13, ahead of David West, Leandro Barbosa, Boris Diaw, Perk and Luke Ridnour in the first round.

 Much more athletic than Banks, better passer too, his shot blocking skill is very rare for a guard.

Again, time will tell, but so far I’ve heard the kid has:

Elite athleticism
Very good to excellent size
Very good to excellent passing
Very good to excellent basketball IQ
Very good to excellent rebounding
A game reminiscent of Westbrook

The question I’m wondering is, if this stuff is so obvious, why did 52 guys get picked ahead of him?

Considering this team's recent track record in the 2nd round, chances are he's not going to make it. But to me he looked decent in his first game and I'm looking forward to watching him develop.

I definitely hope he makes it, and drafting for upside at #53 makes a ton of sense to me.

The hyperbole just cracks me up.  If Davison has the present day skills that some Celtics fans say he does, he should have dominated the SEC at the very least, and been a top-20 pick.  Some seemingly are under the belief that he's polished at everything other than shooting, which isn't my impression.

I don’t think anyone would argue that he has those present day skills. His shot and decision making have a long way to go.  But, he has the physical tools which makes the speculation fun. He’s a low floor / high ceiling kind of guy. I think when people post with optimism the are seeing the glimpses of what might be in the future.

That’s definitely more fun that the safer guys with less upside that Ainge used to take, like Gomes, Powe, Harongody, Nader, Demetrius Jackson, Carson Edwards, etc.

I thought Demetrius and Edwards were athletic?

One Ainge pick that panned out in this mould might be Avery Bradley.

[Vermont Green]

The guy that JD reminds me of right now:  Marcus Banks.

Perfectly acceptable career outcome for pick 53. Not for pick 13, ahead of David West, Leandro Barbosa, Boris Diaw, Perk and Luke Ridnour in the first round.

 Much more athletic than Banks, better passer too, his shot blocking skill is very rare for a guard.

Again, time will tell, but so far I’ve heard the kid has:

Elite athleticism
Very good to excellent size
Very good to excellent passing
Very good to excellent basketball IQ
Very good to excellent rebounding
A game reminiscent of Westbrook

The question I’m wondering is, if this stuff is so obvious, why did 52 guys get picked ahead of him?

Considering this team's recent track record in the 2nd round, chances are he's not going to make it. But to me he looked decent in his first game and I'm looking forward to watching him develop.

I definitely hope he makes it, and drafting for upside at #53 makes a ton of sense to me.

The hyperbole just cracks me up.  If Davison has the present day skills that some Celtics fans say he does, he should have dominated the SEC at the very least, and been a top-20 pick.  Some seemingly are under the belief that he's polished at everything other than shooting, which isn't my impression.

I don’t think anyone would argue that he has those present day skills. His shot and decision making have a long way to go.  But, he has the physical tools which makes the speculation fun. He’s a low floor / high ceiling kind of guy. I think when people post with optimism the are seeing the glimpses of what might be in the future.

That’s definitely more fun that the safer guys with less upside that Ainge used to take, like Gomes, Powe, Harongody, Nader, Demetrius Jackson, Carson Edwards, etc.

I thought Demetrius and Edwards were athletic?

One Ainge pick that panned out in this mould might be Avery Bradley.

Jaylen Brown also?  Sure, neither Brown or Bradley are directly comparable to a late second round pick.  For every "raw" pick that makes it, there are some that don't ever develop the NBA touch or feel for the game.  Davison appears to be a good second round pick.  He isn't going to be anything this season and we don't need him to be.  Maybe in 2 or 3 seasons, he develops into a useful player for us or trade asset to get us something back.

People complain when we trade late first round picks and also complain when we have roster spots taken by young players that aren't that good.  I think the Davison pick is pretty savvy from a roster management standpoint.   Would we really benefit from having Blake Wesley on the roster?  Or are we better off with Davison on a 2-way and round out the roster with NBA vets?

[pokeKingCurtis]

The guy that JD reminds me of right now:  Marcus Banks.

Perfectly acceptable career outcome for pick 53. Not for pick 13, ahead of David West, Leandro Barbosa, Boris Diaw, Perk and Luke Ridnour in the first round.

 Much more athletic than Banks, better passer too, his shot blocking skill is very rare for a guard.

Again, time will tell, but so far I’ve heard the kid has:

Elite athleticism
Very good to excellent size
Very good to excellent passing
Very good to excellent basketball IQ
Very good to excellent rebounding
A game reminiscent of Westbrook

The question I’m wondering is, if this stuff is so obvious, why did 52 guys get picked ahead of him?

Considering this team's recent track record in the 2nd round, chances are he's not going to make it. But to me he looked decent in his first game and I'm looking forward to watching him develop.

I definitely hope he makes it, and drafting for upside at #53 makes a ton of sense to me.

The hyperbole just cracks me up.  If Davison has the present day skills that some Celtics fans say he does, he should have dominated the SEC at the very least, and been a top-20 pick.  Some seemingly are under the belief that he's polished at everything other than shooting, which isn't my impression.

I don’t think anyone would argue that he has those present day skills. His shot and decision making have a long way to go.  But, he has the physical tools which makes the speculation fun. He’s a low floor / high ceiling kind of guy. I think when people post with optimism the are seeing the glimpses of what might be in the future.

That’s definitely more fun that the safer guys with less upside that Ainge used to take, like Gomes, Powe, Harongody, Nader, Demetrius Jackson, Carson Edwards, etc.

I thought Demetrius and Edwards were athletic?

One Ainge pick that panned out in this mould might be Avery Bradley.

Jaylen Brown also?  Sure, neither Brown or Bradley are directly comparable to a late second round pick.  For every "raw" pick that makes it, there are some that don't ever develop the NBA touch or feel for the game.  Davison appears to be a good second round pick.  He isn't going to be anything this season and we don't need him to be.  Maybe in 2 or 3 seasons, he develops into a useful player for us or trade asset to get us something back.

People complain when we trade late first round picks and also complain when we have roster spots taken by young players that aren't that good.  I think the Davison pick is pretty savvy from a roster management standpoint.   Would we really benefit from having Blake Wesley on the roster?  Or are we better off with Davison on a 2-way and round out the roster with NBA vets?

Yea well put, I like the upside of Begarann and Davison to pair with this championship team. Wonder if that's Brad's strategy, picking high upside guys.

[hwangjini_1]

Cut the hair & might shoot better

or maybe longer hair might be better. it might add balance. 

so, is his official nickname now "the mane in maine"?

[hwangjini_1]

When I squint and squeeze lemon juice into my eyes, ---

Kind of looked like Ja Morant to me from the highlights

i think i would need to squint, down a fifth of whiskey, pass out, and then hallucinate for this.

JD is my newest underdog and binkie, but even i won't include names such as westbrook and morant on the conversation about him right now.

[liam]

When I squint and squeeze lemon juice into my eyes, ---

Kind of looked like Ja Morant to me from the highlights

i think i would need to squint, down a fifth of whiskey, pass out, and then hallucinate for this.

JD is my newest underdog and binkie, but even i won't include names such as westbrook and morant on the conversation about him right now.

I wouldn't say that JD will be a Westbrook or Ja level player but he does resemble them. I'd be thrilled if he could end up as a solid role player off our bench.

[libermaniac]

The guy that JD reminds me of right now:  Marcus Banks.

Perfectly acceptable career outcome for pick 53. Not for pick 13, ahead of David West, Leandro Barbosa, Boris Diaw, Perk and Luke Ridnour in the first round.

 Much more athletic than Banks, better passer too, his shot blocking skill is very rare for a guard.

Again, time will tell, but so far I’ve heard the kid has:

Elite athleticism
Very good to excellent size
Very good to excellent passing
Very good to excellent basketball IQ
Very good to excellent rebounding
A game reminiscent of Westbrook

The question I’m wondering is, if this stuff is so obvious, why did 52 guys get picked ahead of him?

Considering this team's recent track record in the 2nd round, chances are he's not going to make it. But to me he looked decent in his first game and I'm looking forward to watching him develop.

I definitely hope he makes it, and drafting for upside at #53 makes a ton of sense to me.

The hyperbole just cracks me up.  If Davison has the present day skills that some Celtics fans say he does, he should have dominated the SEC at the very least, and been a top-20 pick.  Some seemingly are under the belief that he's polished at everything other than shooting, which isn't my impression.

I don’t think anyone would argue that he has those present day skills. His shot and decision making have a long way to go.  But, he has the physical tools which makes the speculation fun. He’s a low floor / high ceiling kind of guy. I think when people post with optimism the are seeing the glimpses of what might be in the future.

That’s definitely more fun that the safer guys with less upside that Ainge used to take, like Gomes, Powe, Harongody, Nader, Demetrius Jackson, Carson Edwards, etc.

I thought Demetrius and Edwards were athletic?

One Ainge pick that panned out in this mould might be Avery Bradley.

Yes, they were somewhat athletic but too short to have any serious hopes that they’d be anything more than deep bench players.

[Celtics2021]

When I squint and squeeze lemon juice into my eyes, ---

Kind of looked like Ja Morant to me from the highlights

i think i would need to squint, down a fifth of whiskey, pass out, and then hallucinate for this.

JD is my newest underdog and binkie, but even i won't include names such as westbrook and morant on the conversation about him right now.

I wouldn't say that JD will be a Westbrook or Ja level player but he does resemble them. I'd be thrilled if he could end up as a solid role player off our bench.

Strong caveats of college catch-all stats aside, Davison and Morant produced identical BPMs of 5.2 in their freshmen seasons, with Davison’s coming against much stronger competition in the SEC compared to the OVC.  Morant blew up in his sophomore year.

Not saying Davison will be Morant, at all, but they showed similar potential after their freshman seasons.  Difference is of course Morant blew up in college while we hope Davison takes off in the G League.

[footey]

When I squint and squeeze lemon juice into my eyes, ---

Kind of looked like Ja Morant to me from the highlights

i think i would need to squint, down a fifth of whiskey, pass out, and then hallucinate for this.

JD is my newest underdog and binkie, but even i won't include names such as westbrook and morant on the conversation about him right now.

I wouldn't say that JD will be a Westbrook or Ja level player but he does resemble them. I'd be thrilled if he could end up as a solid role player off our bench.

Strong caveats of college catch-all stats aside, Davison and Morant produced identical BPMs of 5.2 in their freshmen seasons, with Davison’s coming against much stronger competition in the SEC compared to the OVC.  Morant blew up in his sophomore year.

Not saying Davison will be Morant, at all, but they showed similar potential after their freshman seasons.  Difference is of course Morant blew up in college while we hope Davison takes off in the G League.

Davison has the strength and explosiveness to finish at the hoop at a much higher rate than he showed in first summer league game. The guy has some serious leg strength.  I think that will be the key to his progression. Along with developing a 3 point shot. 

[Celtics2021]

When I squint and squeeze lemon juice into my eyes, ---

Kind of looked like Ja Morant to me from the highlights

i think i would need to squint, down a fifth of whiskey, pass out, and then hallucinate for this.

JD is my newest underdog and binkie, but even i won't include names such as westbrook and morant on the conversation about him right now.

I wouldn't say that JD will be a Westbrook or Ja level player but he does resemble them. I'd be thrilled if he could end up as a solid role player off our bench.

Strong caveats of college catch-all stats aside, Davison and Morant produced identical BPMs of 5.2 in their freshmen seasons, with Davison’s coming against much stronger competition in the SEC compared to the OVC.  Morant blew up in his sophomore year.

Not saying Davison will be Morant, at all, but they showed similar potential after their freshman seasons.  Difference is of course Morant blew up in college while we hope Davison takes off in the G League.

Davison has the strength and explosiveness to finish at the hoop at a much higher rate than he showed in first summer league game. The guy has some serious leg strength.  I think that will be the key to his progression. Along with developing a 3 point shot.

Yeah, I was a bit bummed by his lack of finishing in summer league game 1, although I also felt he was victim to a couple of obvious no-calls.  Does he get to see Walker Kessler in Vegas?  Because he knows what to do against that guy!

[libermaniac]

When I squint and squeeze lemon juice into my eyes, ---

Kind of looked like Ja Morant to me from the highlights

i think i would need to squint, down a fifth of whiskey, pass out, and then hallucinate for this.

JD is my newest underdog and binkie, but even i won't include names such as westbrook and morant on the conversation about him right now.

I wouldn't say that JD will be a Westbrook or Ja level player but he does resemble them. I'd be thrilled if he could end up as a solid role player off our bench.

Strong caveats of college catch-all stats aside, Davison and Morant produced identical BPMs of 5.2 in their freshmen seasons, with Davison’s coming against much stronger competition in the SEC compared to the OVC.  Morant blew up in his sophomore year.

Not saying Davison will be Morant, at all, but they showed similar potential after their freshman seasons.  Difference is of course Morant blew up in college while we hope Davison takes off in the G League.

Davison has the strength and explosiveness to finish at the hoop at a much higher rate than he showed in first summer league game. The guy has some serious leg strength.  I think that will be the key to his progression. Along with developing a 3 point shot.

Yeah, I was a bit bummed by his lack of finishing in summer league game 1, although I also felt he was victim to a couple of obvious no-calls.  Does he get to see Walker Kessler in Vegas?  Because he knows what to do against that guy!

I don’t worry about a lack of finishing with young raw prospects. They’ll get better at that as they mature. Both Brown and Tatum had trouble finishing early in their careers as well. And, up until the finals with Tatum, it hasn’t been an issue since. 😢

The fact that he was able to get 5 layup attempts (his last one being a nice finish) is a good sign IMO. It means he’s both athletic and aggressive. For those of you who remember Kedrick Brown, he was super athletic but as passive as they come. Hard to fix a passive mindset.

[Celtics2021]

When I squint and squeeze lemon juice into my eyes, ---

Kind of looked like Ja Morant to me from the highlights

i think i would need to squint, down a fifth of whiskey, pass out, and then hallucinate for this.

JD is my newest underdog and binkie, but even i won't include names such as westbrook and morant on the conversation about him right now.

I wouldn't say that JD will be a Westbrook or Ja level player but he does resemble them. I'd be thrilled if he could end up as a solid role player off our bench.

Strong caveats of college catch-all stats aside, Davison and Morant produced identical BPMs of 5.2 in their freshmen seasons, with Davison’s coming against much stronger competition in the SEC compared to the OVC.  Morant blew up in his sophomore year.

Not saying Davison will be Morant, at all, but they showed similar potential after their freshman seasons.  Difference is of course Morant blew up in college while we hope Davison takes off in the G League.

Davison has the strength and explosiveness to finish at the hoop at a much higher rate than he showed in first summer league game. The guy has some serious leg strength.  I think that will be the key to his progression. Along with developing a 3 point shot.

Yeah, I was a bit bummed by his lack of finishing in summer league game 1, although I also felt he was victim to a couple of obvious no-calls.  Does he get to see Walker Kessler in Vegas?  Because he knows what to do against that guy!

I don’t worry about a lack of finishing with young raw prospects. They’ll get better at that as they mature. Both Brown and Tatum had trouble finishing early in their careers as well. And, up until the finals with Tatum, it hasn’t been an issue since. 😢

The fact that he was able to get 5 layup attempts (his last one being a nice finish) is a good sign IMO. It means he’s both athletic and aggressive. For those of you who remember Kedrick Brown, he was super athletic but as passive as they come. Hard to fix a passive mindset.

I should clarify that I wasn't bummed for his long-term prospects, I was bummed for the lack of a highlight for entertainment value alone.

[pokeKingCurtis]

When I squint and squeeze lemon juice into my eyes, ---

Kind of looked like Ja Morant to me from the highlights

i think i would need to squint, down a fifth of whiskey, pass out, and then hallucinate for this.

JD is my newest underdog and binkie, but even i won't include names such as westbrook and morant on the conversation about him right now.

I wouldn't say that JD will be a Westbrook or Ja level player but he does resemble them. I'd be thrilled if he could end up as a solid role player off our bench.

Strong caveats of college catch-all stats aside, Davison and Morant produced identical BPMs of 5.2 in their freshmen seasons, with Davison’s coming against much stronger competition in the SEC compared to the OVC.  Morant blew up in his sophomore year.

Not saying Davison will be Morant, at all, but they showed similar potential after their freshman seasons.  Difference is of course Morant blew up in college while we hope Davison takes off in the G League.

No wonder, it's that plus the hair.

Looking the same as Ja right now actually with my grainy summer league feed thanks to my Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. internet

[Moranis]

Box Plus Minus is the stat used to compare people now.  wow.