Report: Celtics still looking to utilize trade exception?

[Celtics2021]

Eleven hours left.

Hope I am wrong, but I really think we would hear at least some chatter of a potential name if something was getting done today. Seems all these moves have been announced at least a few days ahead of when they actually became official (murray trade, tucker signing, brogdon signing, gobert potentially being traded, Noel and Burks being available, brunson to ny etc).

A lot of those were announced early because of the league moratorium creating a hold on everything officially occurring.  This is more like the trade deadline when things happen (or fall apart) at the last minute.

That said, my expectation that they use this is pretty low, and has been since we got Brogdon.  I’d put it and under 20%.

[Birdman]

I say 0%.. Kabengele look pretty good in summer league as did Davidson

[Sketch5]

I say 0%.. Kabengele look pretty good in summer league as did Davidson

Still need a wing, some out side shooting. KO could be a target, can still shoot and is a Big if Kabengele can't crack the rotation. McBuckets, shooting, but meh on D. Ross shooting down but on a bad team, who knows how he was used, but has shown to be able to shoot and plays good D. Orlando needs to drop a player, so I wouldn't be surprised if it's him or some one else from Orlando.

While Boston could wait, they really need some wing help to give the J's some rest during the season.

[Celtics2021]

I say 0%.. Kabengele look pretty good in summer league as did Davidson

Still need a wing, some out side shooting. KO could be a target, can still shoot and is a Big if Kabengele can't crack the rotation. McBuckets, shooting, but meh on D. Ross shooting down but on a bad team, who knows how he was used, but has shown to be able to shoot and plays good D. Orlando needs to drop a player, so I wouldn't be surprised if it's him or some one else from Orlando.

While Boston could wait, they really need some wing help to give the J's some rest during the season.

Orlando doesn’t really need to drop a player.  Their 16th man is an unguaranteed contract given to a 26 year-old point guard.

[Vermont Green]

Yeah, it has been awfully quiet, not just with Boston, but across the league.  Teams are taking stock of things based on Summer league I suspect.  The timing of the Fournier TPE is not good.  Teams will be looking to trade off players to get their rosters down (and salary) but that isn't really happening yet.

But even if this Fournier TPE expires, we still have Hernangomez ($6.9M) and Schroder ($5.9M).  Those may not buy us much but at least it is something.  Rudy Gay for example.  Or Justin Holiday.

I think the most likely scenario is we sign a wing and/or a C that has been released or is otherwise a FA still on the market and we get them for a min contract.  Then we fill in a roster spot or two with prospects who can be cut if needed to create roster space for something that may present itself later.

[td450]

Yeah, it has been awfully quiet, not just with Boston, but across the league.  Teams are taking stock of things based on Summer league I suspect.  The timing of the Fournier TPE is not good.  Teams will be looking to trade off players to get their rosters down (and salary) but that isn't really happening yet.

But even if this Fournier TPE expires, we still have Hernangomez ($6.9M) and Schroder ($5.9M).  Those may not buy us much but at least it is something.  Rudy Gay for example.  Or Justin Holiday.

I think the most likely scenario is we sign a wing and/or a C that has been released or is otherwise a FA still on the market and we get them for a min contract.  Then we fill in a roster spot or two with prospects who can be cut if needed to create roster space for something that may present itself later.

I think those smaller TPE's may be more useful. Finding an available $17M player worth the trouble is tricky business. Getting rid of those smaller size TPE chunks of salary correlates with first rounders on rookie deals who are nice players to have, but may need to go to make a big deal work.

I bet Stevens isn't done.

[Surferdad]

Yeah, it has been awfully quiet, not just with Boston, but across the league.  Teams are taking stock of things based on Summer league I suspect.  The timing of the Fournier TPE is not good.  Teams will be looking to trade off players to get their rosters down (and salary) but that isn't really happening yet.

But even if this Fournier TPE expires, we still have Hernangomez ($6.9M) and Schroder ($5.9M).  Those may not buy us much but at least it is something.  Rudy Gay for example.  Or Justin Holiday.

I think the most likely scenario is we sign a wing and/or a C that has been released or is otherwise a FA still on the market and we get them for a min contract.  Then we fill in a roster spot or two with prospects who can be cut if needed to create roster space for something that may present itself later.

I think those smaller TPE's may be more useful. Finding an available $17M player worth the trouble is tricky business. Getting rid of those smaller size TPE chunks of salary correlates with first rounders on rookie deals who are nice players to have, but may need to go to make a big deal work.

I bet Stevens isn't done.

True, and what's more, he won't be done until the trade deadline.  Frankly I see little reason to make any more moves now. Some of the vet centers available will still be available later on, and I do not see a big difference between any of them.

[Roy H.]

Yeah, it has been awfully quiet, not just with Boston, but across the league.  Teams are taking stock of things based on Summer league I suspect.  The timing of the Fournier TPE is not good.  Teams will be looking to trade off players to get their rosters down (and salary) but that isn't really happening yet.

But even if this Fournier TPE expires, we still have Hernangomez ($6.9M) and Schroder ($5.9M).  Those may not buy us much but at least it is something.  Rudy Gay for example.  Or Justin Holiday.

I think the most likely scenario is we sign a wing and/or a C that has been released or is otherwise a FA still on the market and we get them for a min contract.  Then we fill in a roster spot or two with prospects who can be cut if needed to create roster space for something that may present itself later.

I think those smaller TPE's may be more useful. Finding an available $17M player worth the trouble is tricky business. Getting rid of those smaller size TPE chunks of salary correlates with first rounders on rookie deals who are nice players to have, but may need to go to make a big deal work.

I bet Stevens isn't done.

Well, the $17 million TPE is more useful, in that it could have been used on any player the smaller TPEs can be used for, as well as vets on mid-range salaries.  The only benefit those other TPEs have is that they expire later.

[td450]

Yeah, it has been awfully quiet, not just with Boston, but across the league.  Teams are taking stock of things based on Summer league I suspect.  The timing of the Fournier TPE is not good.  Teams will be looking to trade off players to get their rosters down (and salary) but that isn't really happening yet.

But even if this Fournier TPE expires, we still have Hernangomez ($6.9M) and Schroder ($5.9M).  Those may not buy us much but at least it is something.  Rudy Gay for example.  Or Justin Holiday.

I think the most likely scenario is we sign a wing and/or a C that has been released or is otherwise a FA still on the market and we get them for a min contract.  Then we fill in a roster spot or two with prospects who can be cut if needed to create roster space for something that may present itself later.

I think those smaller TPE's may be more useful. Finding an available $17M player worth the trouble is tricky business. Getting rid of those smaller size TPE chunks of salary correlates with first rounders on rookie deals who are nice players to have, but may need to go to make a big deal work.

I bet Stevens isn't done.

Well, the $17 million TPE is more useful, in that it could have been used on any player the smaller TPEs can be used for, as well as vets on mid-range salaries.  The only benefit those other TPEs have is that they expire later.

That "only benefit" thing is a pretty big deal. There are no great opportunities right now. Overpaying a mid-range vet you probably won't play enough isn't as likely to work out as keeping you options open.

There will be other opportunities before the season starts and we can build a lot of different deals with what we have. We already have more mid level salaries than we should.

[Roy H.]

John Karalis
John Karalis @John_Karalis
about 46 minutes ago
I'm told nothing good enough came along for the Celtics to use the Fournier TPE, and it will expire without being used

[Sketch5]

John Karalis
John Karalis @John_Karalis
about 46 minutes ago
I'm told nothing good enough came along for the Celtics to use the Fournier TPE, and it will expire without being used

That sucks, but not surprising. Can't make teams want to give up players that would be worth it.

[JSD]

Ownership cheaping out once again. Wyc needs to sell

[gouki88]

Ownership cheaping out once again. Wyc needs to sell

Or maybe they're happy with the makeup of the team in terms of chemistry, and there was nobody available?

[Roy H.]

Ownership cheaping out once again. Wyc needs to sell

Or maybe they're happy with the makeup of the team in terms of chemistry, and there was nobody available?

I think it’s somewhere in the middle.

I think that there were players available.  And, I don’t think those guys are huge chemistry risks.

But, those guys probably added incremental value.  Take Josh Richardson.  He was definitely available, he’s a good soldier, and he fills a need.  But, he’s more of a pretty good fit, versus a great fit.

We’d pay him his contact of around $12 million, plus around $48 million in tax.  So, it could be said that Wyc cheaped out.  It’s probably reasonable for him to do so, though, because $60 million is a ton to pay for a role player who may not add much.

[Goldstar88]

Ownership cheaping out once again. Wyc needs to sell

Or maybe they're happy with the makeup of the team in terms of chemistry, and there was nobody available?

I think it’s somewhere in the middle.

I think that there were players available.  And, I don’t think those guys are huge chemistry risks.

But, those guys probably added incremental value.  Take Josh Richardson.  He was definitely available, he’s a good soldier, and he fills a need.  But, he’s more of a pretty good fit, versus a great fit.

We’d pay him his contact of around $12 million, plus around $48 million in tax.  So, it could be said that Wyc cheaped out.  It’s probably reasonable for him to do so, though, because $60 million is a ton to pay for a role player who may not add much.

Should have used the TPE on White and kept Richardson. Spurs clearly had no use for Josh as trading White to the C’s was them signaling they were going full rebuild.