Nets/Warriors trade: Yes or no

[Birdman]

Golden State get Kevin Durant

Brooklyn get Andrew Wiggins, James Wiseman, Jonathan Kuminga, Moses Moody, 3 1sts

Got a sneaky feeling this gotta happen but I wouldn’t if I were Golden State..no bench at all esp Poole going to Phoenix & Payton to Portland

[Who]

I rate that as the best package available for Durant.

I'd pick that over Jaylen for Durant. Jaylen is the best individual talent being talked about but GSW's combination of 3 prospects, 3 #1s and Wiggins is a better overall deal.

[BringToughnessBack]

Golden State get Kevin Durant

Brooklyn get Andrew Wiggins, James Wiseman, Jonathan Kuminga, Moses Moody, 3 1sts

Got a sneaky feeling this gotta happen but I wouldn’t if I were Golden State..no bench at all esp Poole going to Phoenix & Payton to Portland

Which team will absorb Simmons albatross contract and what do they get for doing so? This has to happen before GSW trade does. Sick to think he could end up back on that team again.

Definitely a strong deal.

 If I am Nets, I demand Smart plus Brown and 3 picks and 3 swaps.

[gouki88]

It's impossible without Simmons being shipped off. I think Miami, Boston and Phoenix can outdo this deal

[Birdman]

Didn’t know Wiggins & Simmons couldn’t be on same team..but think Simmons could be traded easily

[ETNCeltics]

Durant wasn't happy with GSW. He's going back to the same team with the same staff, management, and largely the same players still intact? That makes no sense.

Boston would be ultra foolish to give up a huge package for a 34 year old superstar, who's already having injury issues. No way on earth I'd give them Brown + other assets.

[Moranis]

How about the Cavs as the 3rd team taking on Wiggins and sign and trading Sexton to Brooklyn.  I think that would require Harris going to GS also so Brooklyn can get below the apron (and sending 1 less 1st to take on Harris).

So

Golden State - Durant, Harris
Cleveland - Wiggins
Brooklyn - Sexton, Kuminga, Moody, Wiseman, 2 GS 1st's

I think that would be a pretty interesting trade for all 3 teams and does make some deal of basketball sense.  GS would obviously be the heavy favorites to repeat (even taking Durant out of it, imagine Harris in the Porter role on that team).  I also really like that move for the Cavs.  Wiggins just makes a ton of sense as the wing the Cavs are missing.  And that starting 5 would be young and nasty with Garland, LeVert, Wiggins, Mobley, and Allen and still having some vets like Rubio and Love on the bench and solid youngish depth in Markkanen, Okoro, Osman, and Wade rounding out the rotation.  Brooklyn gets a #1 scorer which they will need once they finally off load Irving and I do think Sexton and Simmons could work well together as they integrate the 3 recent lottery picks and a couple future 1st's.  They get out of the tax as well giving them a reset.  Need to find a place for Irving, but that does in theory work long term for the Nets with Sexton, Simmons, Moody, Kuminga, Wiseman having the talent to really develop into a legit starting unit a couple of seasons (and they have Sexton and Simmons long term in that scenario). 

These sorts of trades are always so complicated to make work, but I think this one actually gets something that the 3 teams could use.

[gouki88]

How about the Cavs as the 3rd team taking on Wiggins and sign and trading Sexton to Brooklyn.  I think that would require Harris going to GS also so Brooklyn can get below the apron (and sending 1 less 1st to take on Harris).

So

Golden State - Durant, Harris
Cleveland - Wiggins
Brooklyn - Sexton, Kuminga, Moody, Wiseman, 2 GS 1st's

I think that would be a pretty interesting trade for all 3 teams and does make some deal of basketball sense.  GS would obviously be the heavy favorites to repeat (even taking Durant out of it, imagine Harris in the Porter role on that team).  I also really like that move for the Cavs.  Wiggins just makes a ton of sense as the wing the Cavs are missing.  And that starting 5 would be young and nasty with Garland, LeVert, Wiggins, Mobley, and Allen and still having some vets like Rubio and Love on the bench and solid youngish depth in Markkanen, Okoro, Osman, and Wade rounding out the rotation.  Brooklyn gets a #1 scorer which they will need once they finally off load Irving and I do think Sexton and Simmons could work well together as they integrate the 3 recent lottery picks and a couple future 1st's.  They get out of the tax as well giving them a reset.  Need to find a place for Irving, but that does in theory work long term for the Nets with Sexton, Simmons, Moody, Kuminga, Wiseman having the talent to really develop into a legit starting unit a couple of seasons (and they have Sexton and Simmons long term in that scenario). 

These sorts of trades are always so complicated to make work, but I think this one actually gets something that the 3 teams could use.

Given what we just saw Gobert command, that would be a very pitiful haul for Brooklyn for a much better player.

[celticsclay]

How about the Cavs as the 3rd team taking on Wiggins and sign and trading Sexton to Brooklyn.  I think that would require Harris going to GS also so Brooklyn can get below the apron (and sending 1 less 1st to take on Harris).

So

Golden State - Durant, Harris
Cleveland - Wiggins
Brooklyn - Sexton, Kuminga, Moody, Wiseman, 2 GS 1st's

I think that would be a pretty interesting trade for all 3 teams and does make some deal of basketball sense.  GS would obviously be the heavy favorites to repeat (even taking Durant out of it, imagine Harris in the Porter role on that team).  I also really like that move for the Cavs.  Wiggins just makes a ton of sense as the wing the Cavs are missing.  And that starting 5 would be young and nasty with Garland, LeVert, Wiggins, Mobley, and Allen and still having some vets like Rubio and Love on the bench and solid youngish depth in Markkanen, Okoro, Osman, and Wade rounding out the rotation.  Brooklyn gets a #1 scorer which they will need once they finally off load Irving and I do think Sexton and Simmons could work well together as they integrate the 3 recent lottery picks and a couple future 1st's.  They get out of the tax as well giving them a reset.  Need to find a place for Irving, but that does in theory work long term for the Nets with Sexton, Simmons, Moody, Kuminga, Wiseman having the talent to really develop into a legit starting unit a couple of seasons (and they have Sexton and Simmons long term in that scenario). 

These sorts of trades are always so complicated to make work, but I think this one actually gets something that the 3 teams could use.

Given what we just saw Gobert command, that would be a very pitiful haul for Brooklyn for a much better player.

Does irving go to golden state also? Which big brother does he want to stick with more

[tonydelk]

If your going to trade KD and Kyrie you either need young potential stars or a ton of draft capital.  If you can get both and get Wiseman, kuminga and moody and picks then absolutely.  I love kuminga.  Wiseman hasn't been healthy but had loads of potential and moody is a other good young player I'd love for the warriors to deplete their youth and depth for an aging vet. 

[pearljammer10]

I still think Ujiri and the Raptors make the best package for Durant.

Barnes, OG, Gary Trent, 2023, 2025, and 2027 firsts with swaps in 24, 26, 28 for Durant.

Raps could run VanVleet, Durant, Porter Jr, Siakim, and Boucher.

[Moranis]

How about the Cavs as the 3rd team taking on Wiggins and sign and trading Sexton to Brooklyn.  I think that would require Harris going to GS also so Brooklyn can get below the apron (and sending 1 less 1st to take on Harris).

So

Golden State - Durant, Harris
Cleveland - Wiggins
Brooklyn - Sexton, Kuminga, Moody, Wiseman, 2 GS 1st's

I think that would be a pretty interesting trade for all 3 teams and does make some deal of basketball sense.  GS would obviously be the heavy favorites to repeat (even taking Durant out of it, imagine Harris in the Porter role on that team).  I also really like that move for the Cavs.  Wiggins just makes a ton of sense as the wing the Cavs are missing.  And that starting 5 would be young and nasty with Garland, LeVert, Wiggins, Mobley, and Allen and still having some vets like Rubio and Love on the bench and solid youngish depth in Markkanen, Okoro, Osman, and Wade rounding out the rotation.  Brooklyn gets a #1 scorer which they will need once they finally off load Irving and I do think Sexton and Simmons could work well together as they integrate the 3 recent lottery picks and a couple future 1st's.  They get out of the tax as well giving them a reset.  Need to find a place for Irving, but that does in theory work long term for the Nets with Sexton, Simmons, Moody, Kuminga, Wiseman having the talent to really develop into a legit starting unit a couple of seasons (and they have Sexton and Simmons long term in that scenario). 

These sorts of trades are always so complicated to make work, but I think this one actually gets something that the 3 teams could use.

Given what we just saw Gobert command, that would be a very pitiful haul for Brooklyn for a much better player.

I don't think that is the case.  There are no players like Wiseman, Kuminga, or even Moody in the Gobert package and there is no guarantee the picks will be good.

[seancally]

From the Celtics perspective, yes yes yes. I was worried GSW lost a couple guys and might not get back to the Finals. Boston upgraded and is still a favorite to get there. So I hope KD goes there and we meet in the Finals again and get revenge while beating KD a second time.

[#1P4P]

There are plenty of baseless rumors floating around, but this one getting traction is the dumbest one I’ve seen in a while. What’s next? Celtics offer Smart, Timelord, Payton and 2 1sts for a Kyrie reunion.

The 2022 Championship was Steph-Klay-Draymond’s favorite; they already won the title with Wiggins, Poole/Moody, Kuminga, and Wiseman on the roster (they’re supposed to mortgage their future like some Championship barren wasteland); and KD left to build his own squad because he didn’t get any credit.

All parties except for the Nets FO would heavily discourage even the mention of such an offer. Which, now that I think about it, means that they are the ones that floated this fake proposal to up the ante on trade packages. Crazy that this “proposal” got the traction it got.

[ozgod]

Golden State get Kevin Durant

Brooklyn get Andrew Wiggins, James Wiseman, Jonathan Kuminga, Moses Moody, 3 1sts

Got a sneaky feeling this gotta happen but I wouldn’t if I were Golden State..no bench at all esp Poole going to Phoenix & Payton to Portland

Marc Spears is publicizing that on his radio show. It's the best package without looking at the personalities but personally I think its a high price to pay for a guy who, while he is one of the best ever, is 34 and already left before because he was not happy with being the No2 and because Draymond was wearing on him. And they would give up a guy who kind of had a next-level breakout season in Wiggins and a guy like Wiseman who could have future franchise potential. Then he thinks they will throw Poole in as well who had a breakout season last year and prob the most improved? Nets would probably go for it, but I can't see Bob Myers doing it. This would be an NBA 2K type deal where you're trading assets don't have to worry about personalities and past histories etc.